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Thoughts on Stadia?

Posted 1 Month ago by Panty Tight Kitten

I heard about it more and more because of Cyber Punk and everyone apparently likes it on the system. The biggest deal breaker for me is that you have to pay a monthly subscription AND buy the games for full retail price. I'd rather pay $100 one time and then buy the games full price. Alternatively, I wouldn't mind paying a single one-time start up fee and then monthly go monthly, but have all the games available to me.

I think it has potential and Cloud gaming isn't as horrible as it once was. Cloud is working ok now on Switch with very few interruption (not perfect obviously, but not much worse than PS4's handling of it - apparently it has frame rate issues because the game is power hungry).

If anything, Stadia has made me open to Cloud games on Switch.

Thoughts?

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The continual march of the games industry towards less and less responsibility and cost for the publishers and less and less control for the consumers makes me want to rethink the entirety of modern civilization. I already debate with myself on a daily basis over whether or not to uninstall Steam; a total streaming platform like Stadia is so far out of the question that it isn't funny.

1 Month ago
9x19mm
 

The biggest deal breaker for me is that you have to pay a monthly subscription AND buy the games for full retail price.


Don't forget you have to have a compatible device and an always on internet connection with good bandwidth. You are better off getting the game on PC if you have a beefy enough setup. If not, just wait for the console version to get improved.

Don't waste your money on stadia. Cloud gaming is the future but Stadia isn't the right way.

1 Month ago
Q
 

The continual march of the games industry towards less and less responsibility and cost for the publishers and less and less control for the consumers makes me want to rethink the entirety of modern civilization.


That's a pretty extreme viewpoint.

I agree.

I already debate with myself on a daily basis over whether or not to uninstall Steam


Steam is significantly better than the DRM of the 00's. For example I bought a physical copy of spore which I was unable to use when my computer died without cracking it because of ridiculously restrictive DRM.

I really only have an issue with steam when my internet goes out and I can't play the games I own (which happened a few times this year). Other launchers seem to be saner about this.

Stadia


Yeah the internet coverage still isn't flawless enough for this idea. Online-required games already annoy me. And then there's the game pricing. Whenever the internet coverage improves, something like this would work the best:

  • Buying games allows you to own them both digitally and on the streaming platform. Alternately, buy games in *any* marketplace (like steam) and then use stadia to play them.

  • A higher monthly fee lets you access the whole games library for free (this might genuinely not be possible without industry cooperation though).

  • Games could be developed with absolutely ridiculous graphical requirements -- this would push more users to the platform to play those specific games. VR is probably a good candidate for this, though that technology has gotten suprisingly cheap lately.

    On an unrelated note, stadia ads on youtuble are extremely annoying.

    Don't forget you have to have a compatible device


    The point of cloud gaming is that it can be any device. Like you'd be able to play deus ex on your phone.

  • 1 Month ago
    Riven
     

    The point of cloud gaming is that it can be any device. Like you'd be able to play deus ex on your phone.


    Yes that is the point and promise of cloud gaming. What I was referring to is that Stadia is not able to be accessed and played from any device. Currently you can only access it from the following:

    Phones
    Pixel 2, 2XL, 3, 3XL, 3a, 3a XL, 4, 4XL, 4a, 4a (5G), 5
    Samsung S8, S8+, S8 Active, Note 8
    Samsung S9, S9+, Note 9
    Samsung S10, S10+, Note 10, Note 10+
    Samsung S20, S20+, S20 Ultra
    OnePlus 5, 6, 7, 7 Pro, 7 Pro 5G, 8, 8 Pro
    OnePlus 5T, 6T, 7T, 7T Pro, 7T Pro 5G, 8T
    OnePlus Nord, N10 5G, N100
    Asus ROG Phone, ROG Phone II, ROG Phone III
    Razer Phone, Razer Phone II
    LG V50 ThinQ, V50S ThinQ, V60 ThinQ, G7 ThinQ, G8 ThinQ, Wing

    PC with latest version of Google Chrome installed

    A tv with a compatible Chromecast and Stadia controller.

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    So, as you can see, while there are quite a few compatible devices there are not a plethora like you would think there would be. No apple products are supported.

    Maybe once Microsoft gets xCloud going full steam it will be more readily available AND cheaper. Like I said, cloud gaming is where the future is heading, but Stadia isn't the right way.

    1 Month ago
    Q
     

    What, that's crazy! Why does it have to be specific phones, why not just make it a general android (and eventually ios) app and port it to everything?

    1 Month ago
    Riven
     

    Why does it have to be specific phones, why not just make it a general android (and eventually ios) app and port it to everything?


    Because that would make too much sense....... and because it's google. Also, I think Apple is being a bitch with everyone and only wanting games to be purchased through their store front. Microsoft ran into this problem with xCloud not too long ago but found a way to get it to work through an iOS browser:
    https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/8/21508706/microsoft-xcloud-ios-web-browser-2021

    1 Month ago
    Q
     

    Yea the iOS issue is Apple. They want anything like this on their App Store to sell each game as an individual app which just destroys the purpose of a unified service like Stadia and xCloud

    1 Month ago
    Moonray
     

    Also, I think Apple is being a bitch with everyone and only wanting games to be purchased through their store front.


    Right, but in this particular case the games you're playing can't be played on the phone itself.

    1 Month ago
    Riven
     

    They likely will make it work via browser eventually for iOS. They probably wanted to do it on the App store as it's more marketable but hit the same issue as Microsoft.

    1 Month ago
    Moonray
     

    the ads for it are fucking annoying

    1 Month ago
    poptart!
     

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