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The Last of Us Remake in the works

Posted 3 Weeks ago by Jet Presto

https://www.polygon.com/22375435/the-last-of-us-remake-ps5-release-dates-rumor-naughty-dog-days-gone-sequel

Ya know, apart from the shittiness of Sony in how they handled this, I also gotta admit that this doesn't really excite me, personally. And it's for a few reasons.

1. The original game is still relatively young.

I'm not anti-remake at all, but I just have to wonder what the point of remaking a game that's not even a full decade old, that also has a remastered edition for the last generation. The game still looks and plays pretty well. We're not talking about a Final Fantasy VII: Remake situation here, with a 2-decade+ old game that looked dated and ugly even at the time it released, and had a very old-school design. (TLoU is definitely dated in the gameplay department design-wise, but it's not bad and still plays pretty well.) So while I am all for games getting remade at some point, I have to ask if this is the remake we need or even really want now. Especially if it comes at the cost of a new game.

2. The Last of Us Part II doesn't exactly instill confidence for improvement.

I'm not saying this to re-litigate a lot of The Discourse (TM) around The Last of Us Part II, but when I think about what benefit a remake could be, I keep coming back to the weakest part of the original game in its gameplay. It's not bad, but it could be tightened up and be implemented a little more cohesively. But the thing is, Naughty Dog made a sequel that dropped less than a year ago, and...most of the combat stuff *wasn't* improved or more cohesive. Arguably, it was made even *less* so. After playing the sequel, it doesn't exactly make me believe that a remake would ultimately improve the gameplay *that* much, or blend the gameplay with the narrative more naturally. I can see things like map design getting better, which was improved in the sequel (and already was great in the original). I could see them adding environmental hazards or something. Maaaaybe even adding in some more areas with human and infected enemies co-mingling (woefully lacking in the sequel. But if I'm honest, there's not really anything about The Last of Us Part II that makes me think a remake of the original would actually even really improve the core game.

3. General lack of excitement for just getting basically the same games.

The current generation's launch has been a disaster, for whatever reasons can be blamed. Supply shortages, pandemics, just overall poor planning. Whatever. But the big knock on XBox Series X and PS5 has been the underwhelming number of games for them. For me, personally, while I know there *will* be games for PS5 that I definitely want to play, there really isn't a single launch title for it that is a motivator for getting one. The *only* game that I'm like, "Oh, yeah, I'd definitely get that if I got a PS5" is, well, Demon's Souls Remake. And if I'm honest, while I would be interested to check out a Last of Us Remake game on the most part, there's just something that innately kills my enthusiasm for the PS5 if some of the biggest games for it are...remakes of PS3 games I already have and have played. Which is not to say anything of the quality of Demons's'ss's''ss Soulsloslsus, or even the potential quality of TLoU: Remake. After all, Final Fantasy VII: Remake was my personal favorite game of last year. But that was also almost unrecognizeable from the original game. Desmsons's'sssssuSoulsszs took the opposite approach. And I don't know how you make a remake of TLoU that adopts the FFVII:R approach and have it still work anywhere near as well. Even if they bring back Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson, I'm just not sure.

4. Naughty Dog and Sony crappiness.

And, ya know, just because it is a thing, but the overall crappiness of how Sony has handled this project so far leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And not for nothing, but Naughty Dog also kinda showed their true colors with TLoU2 and proved they're not really the highest quality company.


Anyway, those are my thoughts, obviously. What do you think? This something you just shrug your shoulders at? This seem a harbinger of bad things in regards to the diversity of the gaming market? This the dopest thing you've heard in a while?

There are 14 Replies


Naughty Dog also kinda showed their true colors with TLoU2 and proved they're not really the highest quality company.

I dont understand. What did they do?

And you did not like the gameplay in TLOU2? I thought it was an improvement to the first game and was smooth as butter.


I Did not know they were doing a remake. I am surprised I dont think it is needed but TLOU with modern graphics would be neat to see.

3 Weeks ago
S.O.H.
 

... and rejected Kojima's next game, too as well as days gone 2. (Sony)

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3 Weeks ago
Denida
 

There were a number of reports about Naughty Dog leaning heavily on abusive crunch, but also traumatizing employees by making them look at horrific and violent videos and images so they can "get it right" in the game. When asked, they were definitely less than sympathetic to their employees who felt it unnecessary and disturbing and unprofessional to require them to do that.

As for the gameplay of TLoU2, I mean, I think it was somewhat smoother, but I don't think the core gameplay was discernibly different. It mostly played exactly the same to me. I think the maps and level designs were improved, and I think on the most part, the horror levels were well executed. Accessibility was hugely improved, as well. But in terms of basic gameplay, it kinda just felt more of the same Naughty Dog gameplay. The only real addition that I can even remember was the like, "dodge" mechanic, which aaaaalmost made the game better? But itself was kind of clunky.


... and rejected Kojima's next game, too as well as days gone 2. (Sony)


Which is like, sure, I don't care about Days Gone 2 and itself would have just been yet another sequel to try and make something a franchise. But at least it would have been something built more or less ground up to be a new game and not just a "Hey, play this one again, but it looks a little prettier now."



I feel like TLoU is a game that neither needs graphical updates at this point, nor do I want it. Especially after TLoU2. I'm not interested in realistic torture porn, personally.

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Which is like, sure, I don't care about Days Gone 2 and itself would have just been yet another sequel to try and make something a franchise. But at least it would have been something built more or less ground up to be a new game and not just a "Hey, play this one again, but it looks a little prettier now."



I personally prefer state of decay over days.

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3 Weeks ago
Denida
 

Days gone was shit so I dont blame them for not following up with a sequel.

3 Weeks ago
S.O.H.
 

Sure, but would it be better to let them try to make the series better versus just remaking a game they've already twice released in fewer than 10 years?

For my money, I'd rather have a Days Gone 2 than just The Last of Us 1 - Again. Or, if they *really* wanted, they could try a Last of Us 3 or like, The Last of Us set in like, New Zealand or something. Same world, different characters and stories. And especially if this comes at the cost of another potential Kojima game...

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Idk no one is forcing people to get the remake. I would imagine that the final package will be the best version of the game to play it would include the DLC (I dont know if the remastered version includes it right off the bat) the multiplayer (something TLOU 2 lacks) and the smoother gameplay of 2.

Do I agree that there efforts were better off focusing on a Last of US 3 or a Tommy DLC for 2? Sure. But I dont completely hate the idea of a remake (even if it is a little too soon for one) I trust naughty dog to do good by the original even with the "controversies" that you brought up.

3 Weeks ago
S.O.H.
 

No one is forcing people to get the remake, but Sony is prioritizing it over other games we could have gotten.

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Alternatively: what might be some good games that actually should get a remake?

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Yeah this is dumb, and is going to set a horrible trend. Simply remaking classics while they're still somewhat relevant, like cmon. A sequel to the game you're REMAKING literally dropped a year ago. Maybe if the remake drops in like 2023 I'll be somewhat interested as it's a 10 year anniversary, but I wish they were putting their resources elsewhere and not encouraging this trend.

3 Weeks ago
Nique204
 

I *could* be convinced that an Uncharted Remake might work, because that first game especially plays like complete garbage today. Granted it's also what, 13, 14 years old at this point, but still. (I mean, I'd prefer they just make a new game entirely.) But if they're gonna remake something, remake the fan favorite game that legitimately doesn't play well. TLoU from 2013 on PS3 is still actually playable. The PS4 Remaster a year later is also still pretty playable. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is weak in almost every gameplay department, including level design.

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

I honestly wouldn't mind a number of remakes from maybe like PS1/PS2 era games. I think my frustration overall with remakes from the PS3 era is just like...those games still are fine to play on the most part. And they're also pretty accessible. Like you can pretty easily get a copy of Demons' Souls or The Last of Us (especially The Last of Us, which you can get the remaster easily on PS4 and play it on your PS5 if you have one). But there are some games from the PS1/PS2 era that A) you can't play on your PS5 if you still have it and B) aren't as accessible because you need to find a copy and then ensure you have an older console that works.

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Regarding Demon Souls:

I mean I dont know many people who have a PS3 laying around who can readily play it. And I think servers for it are dead. (Not that I disagree with getting PS1/PS2 remakes granted I cant list many exclusive games from those generations that I would like to see remade)

3 Weeks ago
S.O.H.
 

My point is ultimately that if you really want to play Demons' Souls, it's much more accessible than most other games. Not as accessible as The Last of Us, but it's not that hard to find a working PS3 or a copy of the game itself. Demons's's's's Souls does have that dead server issue though, you're right.

3 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

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