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Should explicit content be allowed in the sexuality forum?

Posted 2 Weeks ago by CZM

How do you plan to draw the line what is a legitimate discussion and what is merely explicitly content? How do you plan to let people talk about sexuality but disallow media that directly investigates or represents it?

I'm going through a fucking crisis right now and maybe I shouldn't be taking part in this discussion because it's so fucking important to me - or maybe that's exactly why I should take part.

Fuck repressed puritanical bullshit. The only thing we have to respect as a site is contractual/legal obligations. I need to be free in every other respect, and I will be free - somewhere else, if need be.

There are 16 Replies


I went ahead and moved this here and linked to it, since the other topic is closed and we're definitely getting a sexuality forum.

Should we allow explicit content in the sexuality forum? The consensus seemed to have been against it, but I could be wrong and this part of the topic really needs to breathe.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

My original intent was people can talk about sexuality in the forum and move it out of general/sitewide. Time and a place, the sexuality forum should be that place.

But it makes sense we should still have some hard limits. Some people might want to discuss personal issues with LGBT. Some people might want to discuss kinks, or things that are not socially accepted in a general public forum. I would hate to see this forum made and people just use it to just post porn. Talking about sexual content is one thing, but actually showing it is another. It should be rated R, not porn.

2 Weeks ago
mariomguy
 

So are you under the impression that porn is inherently graphical? The distinction that you are trying to make doesn't appear to exist in the way that you're implying that it does.

2 Weeks ago
CZM
 

I think if linking to explicit content is allowed, there need to be warnings out the ass (ha). If embedded explicit pics are allowed, they ought to have warnings AND whatever you call cover images you have to click to make the image visible.

Now, to the question of should legal explicit content be allowed: I would say yes for 18+ folx, as far as my own moral compass leads. But I don't know how to run a forum. Or website. I don't know that I'm making an informed choice here. But yes, I believe in allowing WELL FOREWARNED explicit content for those legally allowed to see it.

2 Weeks ago
Tek Shmansen
 

But I don't know how to run a forum. Or website.


The host seems to be okay with it. It would also be very private (behind a disclaimer system and other precautions).

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

Yeah, I think Tek's position is pretty reasonable. Media posted should be in tags so it's not like you open a thread and are immediately met with something "graphic."

2 Weeks ago
Jet Presto
 

Not that I’m not interested in the decision, but I don’t know if I have one yet.
As of right now I’d lean towards defaulting against pictures and recordings and videos — kind of “guilty unless proven innocent” — and defaulting in favor of text-only — more “innocent unless proven guilty”.
I’m not (yet?) prepared to defend that position logically.

2 Weeks ago
chiarizio
 

I may be at odds here, but if you are creating a forum specifically for sexuality, it would be hypocritical to not allow explicit content. I'd say there has to be a discussion of some sort around it, though, rather then posting erotica for the sole point of getting off. That is what porn sites are for.

Also, anything illegal in a majority of the world, such as pedophilia, zoophilia, and snuff, should not be allowed outside of text discussion.

Oh, and for the love of God, get these posts out of the site feed! That is a HUUUUUUUUUGE no-no.

2 Weeks ago
Aurelian
 

I would also support the threads not appearing in the site feed.

2 Weeks ago
CZM
 

Riven mentioned the idea of allowing users to opt their post in to site feed, if they desire. And I added the addendum, mods should be able to fix it so explicit titles aren't allowed in for a general audience.

I'm OK with that.

2 Weeks ago
mariomguy
 

I think that that would also be acceptable.

2 Weeks ago
CZM
 

I am in sympathy with the trend emerging since my last post here.

2 Weeks ago
chiarizio
 

If I'm reading this right, there's a unanimous consensus towards allowing explicit content in the sexuality forum provided that:

  • There are warnings/cover images (this was planned anyway)

  • Posts in the sexuality forum can be opted-in or opted-out of the site feed depending on how explicit their titles and content are.

    I'm probably reading the second point wrong, or possibly even the consensus towards allowing explicit content (mariomguy and chiarizio were against it but seem to be in agreement now). Please let me know if I got this right or not.

  • 2 Weeks ago
    Decision
     

    No, I still don't want overtly explicit content in sexuality... It can go a little further than the rest of the site thanks to the age lock, but no porn, please.

    Also, not everything everyone posts there should be on site feed. But if some people want it to show on site feed, they should be able to opt-in.

    2 Weeks ago
    mariomguy
     

    Erotica literature isn't always for the sole purpose of getting off. Some of them have really cool stories.

    1 Week ago
    IKM
     

    With 4 votes in favor and 1-2 votes against (chiarizio's vote is somewhat ambiguous), there's a general consensus that explicit content should be allowed in the sexuality forum, provided that it's hidden. I'll be implementing an [`xxx][/xxx] tag soon to do exactly that and will alter the rule exceptions accordingly when that goes into effect.

    Additionally, there's a consensus to allow users to opt-in or opt-out posts from the site feed, even outside of the disclaimer system which already does that to a large extent.

    This decision is now final and will probably be implemented later tonight.

    1 Week ago
    Decision
     

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