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So Riven/ Xhin, I have a question for you

Posted 2 Weeks ago by Denida

You were accusing me of being HallowHalo when you said
Here, you can add this to your file as well:

A long long time ago I decided I needed to pretend to be someone else for whatever reason (usually to give myself support or sometimes to get unrelated people to support me). The absolute best way to do that seemed to be to change my writing style and attitude, and the easiest way to do that was by using words and spellings that I wouldn't use normally.


Because I was saying the same stuff as HallowHalo on my main in that thread. Why did Weird Occurance get banned for a week and not me? Do enlighten me.

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You were accusing me of being HallowHalo


Yeah I'm sorry about that. Really out of line on my part.

Why did Weird Occurance get banned for a week and not me?


She wasn't banned for the harassment (see policy III-A), she was banned for letting me think it was you. That caused a lot more damage than the harassment itself.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

HallowHalo and Weird Occurnace never publicly expressed that she was me in any capacity, and in fact QUESTIONED the indication that she was me.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

Similarly, when you were banned for a week, it wasn't for the harassment or disruptive content but for evading bans, being aggressive with reposting the tagged content, and eventually impersonating someone else to get your message through. All of this is covered in the moderation policy or the anti-impersonation policy respectively.

Tl;dr both were dysfunctional and so both needed a longer sentence. The focus isn't on punishing or enforcing rules though, the focus is on solving problems, so the ban lengths are probably a lot shorter than expected.

Sorry for any confusion.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

Similarly, when you were banned for a week, it wasn't for the harassment or disruptive content but for evading bans, being aggressive with reposting the tagged content, and eventually impersonating someone else to get your message through. All of this is covered in the moderation policy or the anti-impersonation policy respectively.




Tl;dr both were dysfunctional and so both needed a longer sentence. The focus isn't on punishing or enforcing rules though, the focus is on solving problems, so the ban lengths are probably a lot shorter than expected.




Sorry for any confusion.


I did NOT impersonate. I got permission, it was not an impersonation under the current rules at the time.

Weird Occurance/ HallowHalo was NOT impersonating.
We even made it perfectly clear that we were communicating privately, that I made her the sig, she in no way pretended to be me.


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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

HallowHalo and Weird Occurnace never publicly expressed that she was me in any capacity, and in fact QUESTIONED the indication that she was me.


These things happened privately, not publicly. I've clarified policy IV-D to say that private conversations with me about the site still count as official -- the issue is provability, not externality.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

I showed Weird Occurance your comment and she says she TECHNICALLY never explicitly denied that it was her. And she proposed that it could be any number of people. And even suggested you could be wrong about it being me.
Also, she wants to know how long that policy has been in place?

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I did NOT impersonate. I got permission, it was not an impersonation under the current rules at the time.


At the time she didn't clarify that she had given you permission, she just said it wasn't her. I guess I should've asked for more specifics.

Anyway, my fault on that one. She clarified that yesterday so I won't be repeating that anymore.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

I showed Weird Occurance your comment and she says she TECHNICALLY never explicitly denied that it was her. And she proposed that it could be any number of people. And even suggested you could be wrong about it being me.


Right, but at several points she agreed that the evidence pointed towards you. She also worded things like the pointless file in ways that make it seem like it wasn't her without explicitly denying it. Very tricky.

Also, she wants to know how long that policy has been in place?


If you mean IV-D, it's an unspoken thing. It's come up before though.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

@Elite: see IV-B. Not doing this today.

2 Weeks ago
Riven
 

Can someone verify this is Denida? Doesn't seem like them.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

Can someone verify this is Denida? Doesn't seem like them.


Them? If you are the real one, you should know I am a guy. This seems unlikely to ask bout someone he cares about?

And I am calling suspicious here. Clarkey I talked to on skype. This entire reply sounds iffy.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

Huh? I'm the real Clarkey. I just remember Denida being cool, calm, diplomatic. Either you've changed as a person or you're an imposter.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

Huh? I'm the real Clarkey. I just remember Denida being cool, calm, diplomatic. Either you've changed as a person or you're an imposter.


The real Clarkey was close to Xhin, who could set up a new password. Unless of course, you distrust him to handle that like everything else on this site?

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I trust Xhin very much. I just don't visit gtx anymore and can't remember my pass. You're not acting like Denida at all though. Do you have any proof? From how you're acting I'd guess you're an imposter.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

I trust Xhin very much. I just don't visit gtx anymore and can't remember my pass. You're not acting like Denida at all though. Do you have any proof? From how you're acting I'd guess you're an imposter.


I do not need proof. I do not think you are who you say, given if you are allegedly so close to Xhin, you could ask. The one time I 'talked' to your friend was for a pw, so I know you could... had you wanted to.

Denida is me, believe or don't is your call.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

You don't need to prove anything. I'm just confused why you're acting so different to the old Denida. The old Denida was calm, composed and authoritative. Here you're rambling, typing in caps, passive aggressive, bending rules, worrying about petty trivialities. It seems more likely you're an imposter but possible you've changed I guess.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

You don't need to prove anything. I'm just confused why you're acting so different to the old Denida. The old Denida was calm, composed and authoritative. Here you're rambling, typing in caps, passive aggressive, bending rules, worrying about petty trivialities. It seems more likely you're an imposter but possible you've changed I guess.


Hi Xhin, I thought you made a rule against impersonation. This is a new low, even for you...

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

What? Why do you assume I'm being impersonated rather than listen to my legitimate observations? If you think I'm not Clarkey you can message me on skype or facebook.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

What? Why do you assume I'm being impersonated rather than listen to my legitimate observations? If you think I'm not Clarkey you can message me on skype or facebook.


I do not have Clarkey on either, because had you REALLY been Clarkey, you would know he switched skype.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I don't use skype any more but I've logged into one and messaged you. You can also find me on fb if you want.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

I don't use skype any more but I've logged into one and messaged you. You can also find me on fb if you want.


You asked me to msg you on something you don't use anymore?

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I didn't ask you to message me. I said I could verify myself through both those methods. Even though I don't use skype I still have access. I've messaged you 30 mins ago and no response yet.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

I didn't ask you to message me. I said I could verify myself through both those methods. Even though I don't use skype I still have access. I've messaged you 30 mins ago and no response yet.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

I see. Cannot help you there. I am not like your friend, I believe anything should be verified on the site, not in private messages.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I saw you online and messaged you - no response. I'll consider you an imposter until otherwise proven.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

I saw you online and messaged you - no response. I'll consider you an imposter until otherwise proven.


Good for you. lol

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

I saw you online and messaged you - no response. I'll consider you an imposter until otherwise proven.


...and why would I bother to check again now for someone who I have not talked to for years.
As I said, not doing anything related to GTX0 off the site, end of story.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

Well you could clear up that your not imposter by replying to me. Why wouldn't you do that? This just looks like the lamest impersonation.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

Well you could clear up that your not imposter by replying to me. Why wouldn't you do that? This just looks like the lamest impersonation.


Get your friend to help you look. I am not a moderator here, so it is not my responsibility.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

That makes no sense. Xhin wouldn't be able to verify you through GTX. If you were legit you could have replied to my message by now. if you're not willing to confirm your identity either through skype or fb you're leaving the staff with few options.

2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

That makes no sense. Xhin wouldn't be able to verify you through GTX. If you were legit you could have replied to my message by now. if you're not willing to confirm your identity either through skype or fb you're leaving the staff with few options.


The staff can view IP's. I will not confirm anything off the site. Your suspicion must be taken up with the staff.
I have not modded for 13 years, so it is not my responsibility. I answered you who I am, choose to believe it or not is not my problem.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

Final post since we are going in circles here.

- Seeing your IP doesn't confirm anything without seeing your original IP on Gametalk.
- You don't need to prove anything. It's just incredibly weird you wouldn't just reply to my message on skype when you're online. It leaves me doubting your validity and anyone else reading this conversation. Especially as you're online right now but 'away'.
- It's possible you are Denida and have just changed, that is a possibility. But your suspicious nonsensical replies leave me thinking it's more likely an imposter at this point.

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2 Weeks ago
Clarkey forgot pass
 

Final post since we are going in circles here.




- Seeing your IP doesn't confirm anything without seeing your original IP on Gametalk.




- You don't need to prove anything. It's just incredibly weird you wouldn't just reply to my message on skype when you're online. It leaves me doubting your validity and anyone else reading this conversation. Especially as you're online right now but 'away'.




- It's possible you are Denida and have just changed, that is a possibility. But your suspicious nonsensical replies leave me thinking it's more likely an imposter at this point.




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Don't you feel powerful.

I'm not answering anything by a possible imposter. You can as I said think as you wish, it doesn't matter to me.
I told you on this site, as the only one I would be willing to do, and a user who came back to the site to post in this thread to question me is getting NOTHING more.

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2 Weeks ago
Denida
 

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