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Rogue One was lame.

I personally watch the Star Wars films in release order, not chronological. The original three films are still the greatest and among the best films ever made.

Also, The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars film we've had since Return of the Jedi despite being produced by corporate Disney. And I'm actually a fan of Revenge of the Sith (but Episode I and II are bleh).

Have not watched any of the Mandelorian or however you spell it.

Watching spoopy movies and playing spoopy games for the Halloween season right now, so no movie series rewatch right now. We just started playing Fatal Frame II recently. Initial impressions are: Very positive!

Yeah, it's funny. You can't just say "Watching Star Wars in order!" because everyone has a different definition. You talkin' episodic order? You talkin' release order? You talkin' somethin' fancy like the machete order?

I recently rewatched Fantastic Beasts and it was way messier than I remembered it being. I wish it had been a stand-alone film that really revolved around Newt Scamander, instead of being clearly designed to set up the new series overarching plot. But I liked the core cast and thought Dan Fogler was very entertaining as the audience surrogate.

That’s a cursed game @Alan

One day during the depths of the most degenerate period of my life, I marathonned just the prequel trilogy while eating junk food in my bed. I still don't even really know why I did it. But it changed my life.

You're scaring me. 2 spoopy 4 me.

Played some more tonight. So far, I like it quite a bit. Much better than the first game. But I don't like that there's a health meter. Something horror games should have learned HARD from the Silent Hill trilogy is that a game is a lot scarier when there is no UI to see onscreen.

There is only one way to watch star wars:

episodes 4, 5, and 6.

That's it. the other's are garbage IMO.

IMHO Opinion

5>8>4>3>6


those episodes are the best.

The original Star Wars trilogy had other writers to help keep George Lucas from jumping off the deep end and alot of the plot elements and twists weren't even his ideas. The Prequel trilogy was all George Lucas and it shows. However the character of Jar-Jar Binx was to be revealed to be manipulating things in Episode 1 but the backlash and negative reception to his character caused the plot element to be dropped and his character sidelined for the rest of the trilogy. And then the newest trilogy suffered from the first movie being a more or less retelling of the first star wars movie but made less sense. Then J. J. Abrahms didn't handle the Last Jedi and instead Rian Johnson came in, rewrote the whole script that killed all the plot lines from the first movie and made even less sense. But it did introduce the character of Rose who was a incredibly underrated character played by an underrated actress. And then JJ came back for the last one, and well..... yeah, not that great.

Star Trek isnt immune from this either. The original Star Trek movie, the motion picture was boring and bland. Star Treks 2-4 were really good and helped Star Trek the next generation to get produced. But then ST 5 was a disaster. Luckliy ST 6 was really good. The came ST Generations which, while showing the Enterprise B, was a terrible movie and destroyed the Enterprise D in the dumbest way for the dumbest reasons. ST First contact was good but then Insurrection and Nemesis effectivley killed ST movies until the Star Trek reboot in 2009.

So if you like star wars but didn't like the old star trek shows and movies. Watch the JJ abrahms reboots. They have the pacing and style of star wars while mainting the aesthic and flavor of star trek.

I just rented and watched She Never Died, so I’m going to rewatch He Never Died.

Honestly? The original trilogy is saved more by the editing in the first movie, and direction of the second and third than by anything else. Watching A New Hope, you realize how much editing saves the movie. Watching the prequels, it's more than just George Lucas is over-indulgent in his screenwriting; he's just a boring filmmaker, too. His style works substantially better for something like American Graffiti than for something like Star Wars.

Like for all their problems, when you watch the new trilogy (or even the spin-offs) and compare it to Lucas's films? Just aesthetically they're substantially more interestingly shot and composed than even A New Hope, because Lucas is just kinda...bland. It's mostly "set camera up; simple pan and scan shots while people talk" and that's it.




He didn't kill the plot lines. He built off what Abrams established to take the franchise in a new direction and tell a compelling story. People might not like where he took it, and that's fine! But Johnson really did make a movie that kinda is a totally natural progression of the groundwork laid in The Force Awakens. And then Abrams came back and literally ignored The Last Jedi on the most part. If anything, Abrams ruined the trilogy by not playing by "Yes, And..." rules.

Like, I totally get that a lot of nerds didn't like where Johnson took it, but he didn't "kill" the important plot points. His movie and its themes literally don't work without The Force Awakens.


My list would go:

The Last Jedi > A New Hope > Empire Strikes Back > Return of the Jedi > Revenge of the Sith > Rogue One > Force Awakens > Solo > Phantom Menace > Attack of the Clones > Return of Skywalker

lol that scene where luke drinks cum is the only one that i remember from that movie

i was pretty drunk though

I freakin' LOVE The Last Jedi unapologetically. While not perfect (Canto Byte much?), the writing and characters was a lot stronger and I felt like Johnson "gets" Star Wars better than Abrams. It was the best Star Wars film we got since Return of the Jedi, and I kind of predict that twenty years from its release people will be praising it more than hating it. :)

Also, it's blue milk he's drinking.

The Last Jedi is definitely the best movie in the sequel trilogy.

The first hour of The Force Awakens had a LOT of potential too. Daisy Ridley bleeds charisma and likeability. But her writing is just dreadful after they find the Falcon and it continues being dreadful until the end of Rise of Skywalker.

A bad actor can sell fantastic writing, but a good actor can't sell shitty writing.

I think The Force Awakens is pretty good for a soft reboot, but I wasn't a fan of how much it rehashed old ideas.

I think Daisy Ridley's acting was pretty spot-on for both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, especially the scenes between her and Luke and Kylo Ren. Some of The Rise of Skywalker had moments even, but I think she wasn't trying as hard in Rise of Skywalker. That's the fault of a hack director, not someone with good acting chops.

In fact, pretty much all of the cast in the Sequel trilogy are pretty good actors. (I'd even argue Mark Hamill's performance as Luke was one of his best live action performances of all-time.) It's like you wrote--you can't save a messy script.

Ok so maybe saying he killed all the plot lines from Force Awakens is a bit over dramatic, but he did ruin Snoke and Rey's parents. How does Snoke getting cut in half in a way Darth Vader or even Darth Maul would have seen miles away feel like a natural progression from the build up of the previous movie? And then the revelation that Rey's parents were a couple of nobodies when in Force Awakens they were built up to be mysterious and possibly either Jedi or Sith? I'm not saying the whole movie is terrible as I like the character of Rose and the scene at the end with Luke distracting Kylo Ren was well done. I just feel like if you take the 3 sets of trilogies, the newest ones are the weaker ones.

There were plans from an early stage for a sequel trilogy. When they wrote Empire Strikes Back the setup for another Skywalker wasn't supposed to pay off until a sequel trilogy where Luke goes looking for his sister... But at some point during Return of the Jedi's development they decided to wrap everything up "neatly" which is why Leia ended up being the other Skywalker out of the blue.

I guess Lucas then decided later he wanted to do the prequels. Then he often talked about wanting to do some sequels, was in even talks with the OT cast to bring them back shortly before he later decided to sell to Disney under the assumption they'd create his sequels. Disney ultimately decided to go their own way and obviously needed to get Star Wars producing money to earn its keep so went for making their own sequel trilogy.



Nothing to judge. Two monitors is great, it's easy to underestimate just how much easier it makes using a computer.



The trilogy has some better individual movies than the prequels, but as an overall trilogy it's the worst. I personally think Rise of Skywalker is the worst Star Wars movie made so far.

Snoke was only killed for the surprise factor and that's a shame. Rey's parents don't bug me so much because as I said back when the movie released, I'd already realised we probably weren't supposed to be as fixated on that as TFA made us. Daisy Ridley said in an interview after the movie that she was surprised about all the focus on her character's parents because she felt the movie dealt with it, which to me meant they literally were random people who abandoned her and just as she gets over that to help the resistance & go find Luke we're also supposed to forget about them.

Part of the problem with assuming she's related to anyone important is that it was never going to work story wise. The main cast in the movie don't acknowledge any missing children from the Skywalker families so she can't be from them. If it was anyone else of significance in the Jedi side then it'd be grandparents so we're still stuck at her parents being obscure nobodies in terms of what the fans know. So the end result of JJ I guess trying to make something of the DNA hype around that was that she's granddaughter of the big bad... Which is so underused as a concept in the film that it might as well have not happened.

I still maintain Snoke had more potential as a character but his death isn't that big of an issue overall.



It worked sort of but in hindsight I look at this movie and this is really the biggest issue. They soft-rebooted the story into a worse version of itself. TFA is just ANH but not quite as good and the world building they did was just confusing. Why is there a Resistance and a New Republic? I still don't get it...

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I do dislike when people suggest that Rian Johnson ruined the trilogy though. He shook things up a bit for sure and it's clear he destroyed JJ's original vision for the story but the way he left it had ample possibilities for a decent final movie. The leaked draft script for "Dual of the Fates" is far more interesting than what JJ Abrams produced. It built off of what The Last Jedi did and took it to a conclusion that made sense from everything that came before.

JJ Abrams (or whoever wrote episode 9) are the ones for completely screwing up this trilogy. If they hadn't been so focused on "undoing" everything they thought was wrong with Last Jedi they might have actually made something decent.

But alas. We live in the timeline where it ended on a low. Hopefully now that they've finished the "main" series we can just get more interesting side stories and trilogies.