General

[unparsed]This is a great idea. I wish I had more to brag about.

[unparsed]Most of what I have on my conworld is offline and, if I had to give a reason for not posting it here, I would say that it is a mix of modifying the bits of information I have into readable (to 2nd-party readers) and keeping it confined to posts already made about certain topics I have information on - intil I finally get my own webspace.

[u:1a27a25c53]Status[/u:1a27a25c53]:

[list:1a27a25c53][*:1a27a25c53] Basic information on my conworld as a whole, need to fill in some areas.

[*:1a27a25c53]Extensive information on conworld biology.

[*:1a27a25c53] Extensive information on the eastern continent I call [i:1a27a25c53]Mona Sereia[/i:1a27a25c53] including geography, climate, history of habitation, local biology and ecology, and influences from the outside (e.g. population movement).

[*:1a27a25c53] Extensive and thorough information of Salmuran biology and evolution.

[*:1a27a25c53] Extensive information on the Salmuran cultures of Mokuri, Noktan, Yitnei, Shilamzhu, and Nokii cultures.

[*:1a27a25c53] Basic information on Salmuran cultures of Yuta, Yukitan, Tamiran, and the mushroom-farming culture of Thurna plateau.

[*:1a27a25c53] Extensive but not too thorough information on the Noktan language (haven't focused on it for a long time).

[*:1a27a25c53] Basic information on the Mokuri and Shilamzhu languages.

[*:1a27a25c53] Very basic diachrinic work on the Ettic languages based on what I have for Noktan and patches of information on Yitnei.

[*:1a27a25c53] Extensive information on Cenosaur biology and evolution.

[*:1a27a25c53] Basic information on Cenosaur cultures and very basic knowledge on cenosaur languages (mainly just phonetics).

[*:1a27a25c53] Moderate information on planet history and the plot for my story (if I plan to write it).[/list:u:1a27a25c53]

[u:1a27a25c53]Current projects[/u:1a27a25c53]: ([size=9:1a27a25c53]not many, and very sporatic updates since I am still in school[/size:1a27a25c53]).

[list:1a27a25c53][*:1a27a25c53] Noctan language - trying to complete it so I can show it off here...and (maybe) the ZBB if I feel up to it.

[*:1a27a25c53] Finalizing Mokuri religion.

[*:1a27a25c53] Certain aspects of my conworld's biology, esp. botany and early ecology (see here).[/list:u:1a27a25c53]

[u:1a27a25c53]Possibly need assistance on[/u:1a27a25c53]:

[list:1a27a25c53][*:1a27a25c53] Cenosaur languages.

[*:1a27a25c53] Shilamzhu and Tamiran belief systems.

[*:1a27a25c53] A few aspects of conworld planet history and biology, maybe other stuff as well.[/list:u:1a27a25c53]

Most of my conworld's development has been put on hold until I finish school, but it will go a lot faster once I get a map of the planet and finalize the planet's basic statistics.

Question: Are we allowed to edit our original posts once we make progress on the things we have listed, or do you think we should make seperate posts for these?

BTW, good idea! I might even advertise this in my sig ([size=9:1a27a25c53]with your permission, of course[/size:1a27a25c53]) :D

[unparsed]Status:

Working on site for my stories/conworlds (inseperable for me, these)

Projects:

Etrean Language

Diet and cuisine of Sartai in Solaith's time

Game mechanics of Valhalla Rebelion

WRITING STORIES!

[unparsed]Status:
[list:c9e7f3e08a]Biology: Taxonomical scheme (Domain->Order levels) sketched out for creatures of the Nenthe
Physics: Basic contemporary theory of Ley formulated in layman's terms.
Geography: Anatomical structure of the Local Nenthe and its component bubbles solidified.
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Ongoing:
[list:c9e7f3e08a]Culture: Identify sociological effects of immortality and conditions for 'fading'
History: Delineate and identify explictly the general historical ages.
Biology: Work on taxonomical trees for 'sympathetic-protagonist' races
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[unparsed]Interesting thread.

Since I haven't posted in a while:

Still trying to put together a website for Iryal.

Still trying to pull together all information about Iryal -- currently working on version 2.5, and trying to work in all relevant info and cull other info from versions 1.0-2.0, including stuff that I've finally copied from my last computer.

One of the most important tasks: create a detailed map!

[unparsed]I'll admit, I haven't been working on my conworld lately. Been working on a comic idea for my friends.

[unparsed]Woke up the Osara universe that was taking dust.

Posted the outlines of its new cosmology in the
SF/Magic section of the forum. Will be refined with
the great feedback from the Community.

Have to rewrite all stories of the previous years
so that they take the new cosmology into account.
It's likely to change many things in History in
general so I'll have to watch out.

Must write much more notes and encyclopedic stuff
because it helps keeping things more consistent
and makes forum discussions easier.

Should definitely use the general revamping to
decide whether the species should be redesigned
for easier comics drawing. Later will be too late.

Decide whether this is too much work and revert
to the plain old planetary stuff.

[unparsed][b:768f62c368]Sorol:[/b:768f62c368]
Mapping:
I have mapped all of Azhnar, Faridar, Jalaun, Nizhneria, and Zarakhan, and there are a few maps of Eana, Kanwata, Kondonga, and Zazima. Also, I have incorporated all of the completed maps into a KML file that is viewable in Google Earth.
Other stuff:
I'd really like to get the mapping done first, but there is a bit of other stuff going on in Sorol now too. Nothing terribly in-depth, however.

-Rob

[unparsed]I have a wiki where I put all the historical and encyclopedical information about my conworld:
Nahaiteru

[b:1d80ac1111]Status:[/b:1d80ac1111]

-Basic information about the conworld, but I have more to fill in.

-Described the Elan one of their races: the Harelan. But the articles are a scrap, I have to reorganize and clean it. Also, I have to add a lot of information in the article about the Elan (one of the species in Nahaiteru).

-Finished the biography and literary analysis of Aegen Armaen, a famous Harelan writer.

-Finished the article about the intelectual circle "The Conspiray of the Pariahs" [in Spanish "La Conjura de los Parias"], whose founder was actually Aegen Armaen.

-Finished the article about Politics in the Harelan's society.

-Finished the article about the historical era in Harelan's history: "The Era of Dark" --here, [i:1d80ac1111]dark[/i:1d80ac1111] refers to lack of intelligence, of rational capacity.

[b:1d80ac1111]To do list:[/b:1d80ac1111]

-Make and article about the Harelan's Golden Era, focusing on both the inventions, and further development of them --including electricity, trains, fotography, videocamera, etc; and also the Art --literature, fotography, theater, etc.

-Make an article describing the Arunae in general terms.

-Make an article about the Parents of the Arunae, Nylashemma Arunae and Gennus.

-Make an article describing the main Arunae City-States.

-So much articles to add X_X

[unparsed]Status of the Elsewrought:

--- evolution and (very basic) anatomy of floravultuates and their ancestors
--- seasons and day length established
--- nature of the Dreamrealm, Wakerealm, Hell, and reincarnation
--- basic mechanisms of magic
--- beginnings of the universal but multi-formed deities
--- beginnings of Black Bough (especially Open) culture and language


ongoing projects that need work (and possibly help)
---climate, effects of long day, long year, adaptions to climate.
---alternatives to insects, invertebrate biology in general
---finished languages
--- human/pari cultures, migrations, technology, and their history
----never mind, I don't like my basic biology/domains of life enough
---pari culture and biology
----general jazziness. I need more sparkle! But not too much. ..

[unparsed]Status:
Slightly frustrated: going off on all sorts of unrelated tangents without much depth in a single one. Really want to come up with something to show. Refocusing...

Ongoing:
[list:a8fff90885]Culture: Identify different streams of philosophy in the Local Nenthe
Demography: Determine percentages of important species in Jezebel
Pre-History: Determine number and attributes of the Ile Sebe
Physical: Determine configuration of spheres near 0.
Summation: Cobble together introduction to the Local Nenthe[/list:u:a8fff90885]

Wish me luck :-P

[unparsed]Status of things on Axis:
-Aerien culture groundwork laid. However, it's still in scattered note form and needs to be organized.
- Necromancer culture well established- now to organize it. :cry:
-Reincarnation process/ Relationships between Gods established.
-Mora Court groundwork laid.
- Various cities created.
- City of Eclectica and University system well established.
- Basic intercountry politics established.

Ongoing:
-Flora and Fauna types by the Sea of Silence...( Need to consider effects of magic in the groundwater.)
-Structure of the Court of Virtues
- Basic values of the different societies.
- Timeline of major events

Things I Should be Working On ( but aren't):
-Map of as yet unnamed continent where my main cultures are
-Languages
-My homework

....following the AP Calculus BC exam, my brain is completely fried. disgust

[unparsed]Adpihi's attitudes toward marriage, divorce, homosexuality, sex, reproduction, and suicide, have all been refined somewhat lately.

[unparsed]May 20th: Mostly stagnant.... I don't like to say that I have writer's block, but I will say I have editor's block, since I'm trying to re-write some things before I post them on my website. Also, weebly.com doesn't like my browser.

[unparsed]I'M FUCKING STUCK.

[unparsed][quote:4fd98e8ae9="Mr. Saturday"]I'M FUCKING STUCK.[/quote:4fd98e8ae9]Holly Lisle's "Create a ..." clinics are about $9.95 each, and have 20-question questionnaires to get you unstuck.
Create a Culture
Create a Language
Create a Plot
Create a Character
How to Beat Writer's Block

I'm not suggesting hers are the best; nor am I suggesting the above links are the best way to get to hers. But it's a way to start the search.

[unparsed][quote:1f5ea2ebe4="Mr. Saturday"]I'M FUCKING STUCK.[/quote:1f5ea2ebe4]

Refreshing after all that Xhin "haha, invented three more universes before breakfast" stuff.

[unparsed]I'm still trying to find time* to map Iryal. I finally have rough outlines of the continents. Now I just need to put them together into a world map and size them correctly.

Then I hope to work through Geoff's Climate Cookbook and get rough ideas of weather and climates.

Then I hope to start a more detailed map of the New Kingdoms.

From there I can start fleshing out more details on everything else.


[size=9:543a80e31c]* Hard to find time with a 2.5 year old and 7 month old. And when your company is migrating to a new system.[/size:543a80e31c]

[unparsed]1) My problem is not lack of ideas. It's the exact opposite. I'm intimidated by the huge amount I have to do. Architectural styles? Fuckall I know bout that! How does divinity intertwine with magic? Is there a universal field theory uniting physics, magic, and divinity?

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2) Xhin... is a point of contention, but he argued for me so I will say nothing against him.

[unparsed][quote:c859a094f1="Mr. Saturday"]1) My problem is not lack of ideas. It's the exact opposite. I'm intimidated by the huge amount I have to do. Architectural styles? Fuckall I know bout that! How does divinity intertwine with magic? Is there a universal field theory uniting physics, magic, and divinity?[/quote:c859a094f1]Why not just start with the cuisine? Give us the cuisine and go on from there. The kitchen architecture and dining-room architecture ought to follow from that.

[unparsed]Which nation? What time period?

It's BIG, what I've created. Now I just have to tame it.

[unparsed][quote:f24d67147a="Mr. Saturday"]Which nation? What time period?

It's BIG, what I've created. Now I just have to tame it.[/quote:f24d67147a]OK, then, start with answering the Questionnaire's in the Resources thread. Or if there are any Kits or Guides referred to in that thread, follow one of them.

That should give you a good start; you can elaborate, embellish, and improve off of that.

Or get a real-life geography book and emulate it. Look at Lands and Peoples, for instance (though that's a multi-volume work).

I'd start with the "now" time-period, and the nation the character in your first story is going to be in.

Gibbon's Roman Empire would be a good guide to emulate for a particular large region and a particular time-period of 1500 to 2000 years.

[unparsed][b:5bde6046be]Project T[/b:5bde6046be]- no plans.

'Toy world', or the creepy toy world I posted about
That was a one-off I spent about a day on. Twas just a proposal.

Not going to list the full tentative names or many details for the rest:


[b:5bde6046be]Project O[/b:5bde6046be]- back burner.

This is my proper fantasy world, magic and spirits and gods and such, with creepy critters galore and warring nations. Fairly detailed history, various peoples, coherent back stories to the magics of the world and a worked out and fairly unique magic system.


[b:5bde6046be]Project R[/b:5bde6046be]- uninteresting
Science fiction world based on the hypothetical terraformation of Mars.
Mostly about politics and class struggles.

[b:5bde6046be]Project F[/b:5bde6046be]- not terribly interesting or useful at the moment
Horror universe based in a small city taken out of the 1950's U.S. Not so much Lovecraftian as ghosts and demons- more of a poltergeist thing.

[b:5bde6046be]Project L[/b:5bde6046be]- uninspiring
Space fantasy based universe, FTL fallacies abound, in addition to ever so cheesy 'magic'. Only slightly more realistic than star wars. I made this universe when I was a wee lad, and when I was stupid to science.


[b:5bde6046be]Project A[/b:5bde6046be]- Daunting

This is a world I'd like to develop more but, quite frankly, I haven't quite the scholarly background or time to do it properly. Bleak, cold, near-future horror. I ran a session in this once; didn't have enough players though.

Most of the above don't get worked on often enough to call them currently active projects. Except O, which I throw ideas into every now and then to stew.

Mostly what I'm working on right now:

[b:5bde6046be]Project B[/b:5bde6046be]- somewhat interesting and potentially useful

This is a horror science fiction-fantasy, based in the fairly near future (500-ish years). I'm running a Savage worlds campaign in this one, don't know if that'll work out, but it's potentially useful as a foundation for an RTS. I do occasional work on this.

[b:5bde6046be]Project C[/b:5bde6046be]- marginally interesting, but moderately useful

This is a high fantasy setting with a twist- it actually fu*king makes sense. The magic system is particularly interesting and well thought out, and there are four primarily cultures/nations in this conworld that I'm developing (well, technically more like six). I've thought about posting these for feedback here... I might do that at some point if somebody pokes me.

I've run GURPS in this world, I've run D&D 3.5 in it, and I'll probably be running a D&D 4.0 campaign in this shortly.

Running games in a setting is a great way to develop it more fully.


There you have it, eight conworlds. I actually have more that are probably just as well developed- M and H, for example... oh, and D.

Me = pot. Xhin = kettle.

Xhin, stop spreading yourself so thin. Pick a conworld and stick to it!

[unparsed][quote:06ebf72d21="Blake"]I've thought about posting these for feedback here... I might do that at some point if somebody pokes me.[/quote:06ebf72d21]
Poking you. Also about project O.

[unparsed][color=red:432488cd7c][size=24:432488cd7c]POKE[/size:432488cd7c][/color:432488cd7c]

[unparsed]I've been busy with social life + work. Conworlding has taken a back burner.

[unparsed][quote:9d218d4be6="Mr. Saturday"]1) My problem is not lack of ideas. It's the exact opposite. I'm intimidated by the huge amount I have to do. Architectural styles? Fuckall I know bout that! How does divinity intertwine with magic? Is there a universal field theory uniting physics, magic, and divinity?

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Coward. Are you going to let your conworld win!?? Fight! fight! Research that architecture! If you try and take refuge in interactions with the real world of other people, your job, etc., your conworld will only learn how much it can get away with, and it will never obey you again. So stop all this escapism and return to unreality.

[unparsed]Conworlding proper lazily browsing on the range.
Focusing on storyboards and pummeling world on the fly.
Guess I'm not a true conworlder.

[unparsed][quote:5a2501b5df="lryda mbazha"][quote:5a2501b5df="Mr. Saturday"]1) My problem is not lack of ideas. It's the exact opposite. I'm intimidated by the huge amount I have to do. Architectural styles? Fuckall I know bout that! How does divinity intertwine with magic? Is there a universal field theory uniting physics, magic, and divinity?

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Coward. Are you going to let your conworld win!?? Fight! fight! Research that architecture! If you try and take refuge in interactions with the real world of other people, your job, etc., your conworld will only learn how much it can get away with, and it will never obey you again. So stop all this escapism and return to unreality.[/quote:5a2501b5df]

We need a quote thread...

[unparsed]I'd say " Sorry, I'll try to be more argumentative, " but that would be conformist, so I'll stick to my easygoing ways. :P
( For the record, I love arguing- I'm just much more polite on the internet than i would be otherwise. :roll: )

I'm discovering which aspects are aligned with which gods and battling my plotline, which seems determined to go on random tangents and never take on any semblance of a story.

[unparsed]RealLife (tm) is currently making me do esoteric math and modelling *not* associated with my conworld :-(

It's interesting how the same mathematics I do for fun are laborious chores when asked to do it for credit...

[unparsed]Working on the undercity of Nai in Dunne. Giant mushrooms and terranean to subterranean waterfalls.

[unparsed]Xhin, you are going to think I am crazy (as will the rest of you - yes, I can hear the moaning already) but I think you should keep the Yardh and Cjessi projects going. Atleast as seperate projects in their own right. Yardh, because it had a whole whack of interesting concepts like those thoughtforms that were worth the conworld on their own. And when you posted on the Cjessi on this board and the ZBB there were quite a few people interested in the concept. Heck, Blake's got eight conworlds so I don't see how you can't have five...might help too, with all of that creativity of yours.

As for me: Nope, just one conworld is enough. Always has been for more than ten years now, and probably always will be.

I have been thinking about doing something similar to what Eldin did with Adpihi and Reptigan, though. Once my conworld reaches its Space Age, I will need to design other planets with alien civilizations as complex as those on my main conworld. Which is in itself a daunting task. And it doesn't help that I have hardly even thought about any of them in much depth. And I have thought about turning the previous "proto-conworld" idea that my main conworld stemmed from into a seperate conworld in its own right, but I don't know how far that will go. Quite frankly, I don't know if either of these other conworlds will really lift off and become serious projects - as of right now they are still in the backburner.

Anyway, here is the update for my main conworld.

[u:5cd0d4f6df]Newly completed[/u:5cd0d4f6df]:
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[*:5cd0d4f6df] I now have ATLEAST a dozen salmuran cultures inhabiting the small eastern continent.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] The underground ecosystem part of the planet's natural history appears to be done now.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] I no longer need assistance on Shilamzhu and Tamiran belief systems.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Name of ruling theocracy and its stem culture in the "broken land" (collection of sub-continents east of the Central Sea) are now called the [i:5cd0d4f6df]Shixsa[/i:5cd0d4f6df]
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[u:5cd0d4f6df]In progress[/u:5cd0d4f6df]:
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[*:5cd0d4f6df] Still working on Noktan language but is now being joined by Mokuri and Shilamzhu.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Working on the ice age part of my conworld's natural history.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Working on the "cataclysmic event" part of the planet's natural history.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Revising planet's geography a bit (or a lot - depending on how the above point goes).
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Revising Cenosaur recorded history, esp. that of contact with alien race(s).
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Trying to name other cenosaur cultural groups and areas, and if possible, give them a name for their species in their own language (probably in Shixa)
[*:5cd0d4f6df] All of the sounds (phonemes) in Shixa are done, but I need to decide how to structure the words and label things like geographical features.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Trying to find ways of representing Shixa's phonemes with a standard keyboard (haven't made a font for the script yet).
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[u:5cd0d4f6df]Possibly need assistance on[/u:5cd0d4f6df]:
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[*:5cd0d4f6df] A few aspects of cenosaur religion and beliefs (they are starting to show similarities to Shilamzhu belief system).
[*:5cd0d4f6df] A few of the other parts of the planet's natural history (which I may ask about later).
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Reviewing planet's stats to see if they are still right. Esp. for the length of the day and year.
[*:5cd0d4f6df] Other statistics like those for the moons and sun.
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[unparsed][quote:2971397d9b="Mr. Saturday"]Working on the undercity of Nai in Dunne. Giant mushrooms and terranean to subterranean waterfalls.[/quote:2971397d9b]

This is:

A. The biggest, most tired cliche ever for underground environments.

B. Super original wow I can't believe you thought of that!


I'll let you figure that one out.



[quote:2971397d9b="Cerne"]Heck, Blake's got eight conworlds so I don't see how you can't have five...might help too, with all of that creativity of yours.[/quote:2971397d9b]


Mine are more distilled, though, in a way. They are generally speculative fiction conworlds based on one key concept applied to Earth, or some age thereof.

Xhin's problem is that he gets runaway conworlds; because he doesn't limit them in the same way, they explode out of proportion. I suspect he would be better off with eight conceptual conworlds, wherein he works on perfecting their bases rather than simply expanding them.


Project T- based on a rather simple concept with complicated implications, and set on Earth during the French revolution. It's simple because it's set on Earth during an easily definable time with plenty of readily available facts. And it's homogenous by trivialism- there are so many tiny tribes and cultures, there's no need to define them, because none in particular are important. The symmetry creates a lack of objective information... a culture can be defined as what it is, and more particularly, what it is not. If it is everything, or everything is represented with no thing more essential than another, it becomes trivial and need not be explained.


My others have similar limitations:

Project O- based on an island the size of Rhode island. Detailed, and yet very tiny and as such self-limiting.

Project R- Limited to Mars, with only a few inhabitable cities with essentially identical globalized culture- most of the planet remains a waste land.

Project F- Based in a single city, and based on 1950's US culture with minor algorithmic changes.

Project L- Ultimately based in one location that is homogenized due to trivialism- many unimportant cultures and races undeveloped (which oughtn't be)


Project A- Based in a small number of cities and on Earth's history, also largely globalized.


Project B- Homogenization by globalization, based on an extrapolation from Earth. Large, but quite limited still.


Project C- Limited in similar ways. The focus area only has six basic cultures, and a few smaller devices, and the rest is homogenized by trivialism and in some cases global culture (for the sixth race).




To summarize, four basic methods:



[b:2971397d9b]1. Size[/b:2971397d9b]- limit the scope. If it's small, you can only fit so much in it no matter how developed you make it. You can make an entire planet small, even, by leaving most of it desert (like in due) or water, or thick forest, etc. You can make a universe small by filling it with useless rocks, or having a set number of jumping gates that limit your destinations.

[b:2971397d9b]2. Globalize[/b:2971397d9b]- if things are consistent across a planet (or a galaxy), you've basically done the same. Homogenize a culture, and create rules for the social structures, and you can have a billion people with the same effort of a few hundred- this is another way to make things "smaller" while leaving them big. As long as your conworld explains why this is the case (works better with advances civs.), it's not a problem.

[b:2971397d9b]3. Reflect[/b:2971397d9b]- reflect an existing cultural context by basing it off Earth: A culture or a clearly defined era. This provides a source of nearly unlimited factual information you can look up that is inherently consistent, and that you didn't have to spend three years writing.

[b:2971397d9b]4. Trivialize[/b:2971397d9b]- if something isn't essential to your story; say, in a space setting- define your empire's culture, and a couple key players, and deliberately leave the rest vague because they are as unimportant as the culture of a particular ant colony in perspective. If every conceivable alien exists, just say that. When you need an alien, pull it out of your hat by rolling a couple dice. If the universe is so grand and this species so unimportant, you'll probably never see it again, and that's O.K.
Make rules for inventing an alien race, or tribe, or whatever by dice rolls, and leave it at that.


If you manage to use one or two of these, you can focus on improving and making more original and interesting the core ideas rather than spreading yourself thin and resulting in a larger number of mediocre ones.

[unparsed][quote:19396bd8c8="Xhin"]You again, Cerne? You're crazy, you know that? :D[/quote:19396bd8c8]

Yeah I kinda assumed as much.

[quote:19396bd8c8="Xhin"][b:19396bd8c8]And I have thought about turning the previous "proto-conworld" idea that my main conworld stemmed from into a seperate conworld in its own right, but I don't know how far that will go.[/b:19396bd8c8]

Don't do it, it's a trap! :D [/quote:19396bd8c8]

Heh heh. Umm, no. I divested everything else from that conworld for good reason and I am not about to re-unite them. Not through space [i:19396bd8c8]or[/i:19396bd8c8] time. Too many differences. If you're still interested...

[quote:19396bd8c8="Xhin"][b:19396bd8c8]Once my conworld reaches its Space Age, I will need to design other planets with alien civilizations as complex as those on my main conworld.[/b:19396bd8c8]

Or you could just pull a "99% of all Sci-fi ever created" and make your aliens be some combination of native americans and asians, with a couple of ideas from black cultures thrown in, to make malevolent cultures seem moreso. It's a sad trait of Western unoriginality. I wonder what china-centric science fiction is like?.[/quote:19396bd8c8]

Huh? Hey, what do you take me for? I'm an Anthropologist, after all :wink:

Seriously though, I don't think that would be a problem for me as I start my con-cultures from the ground up instead of modelling them off of real cultures on Earth. Incidentally, many of the con-cultures I tried scratching out for the creatures I have so far (which aint a lot) tend to resemble organized animal groups on Earth, with what little material culture they have resembling something simple and organic (I.e. seaweed clothing...or more often, none at all) and social cultures being based off of something I have already thought of for my main conworld (I.e. matriarchal societies). The closest I can come to in popular media would probably be those of the creatures in some of Jim Henson's movies (not the muppet ones though). I think I've done a good enough job on the cultures I have for my main conworld as they don't seem to follow any stereotypes. Thing is, it took a lot of thinking and re-modelling to get them that far. And if I decide to go for this extended con-universe idea, I'll have to do the same for each and every one of the cultures on the other planets as well. Which, as I said before, will be a very daunting task.

[quote:19396bd8c8="Xhin"][b:19396bd8c8]A few aspects of cenosaur religion and beliefs (they are starting to show similarities to Shilamzhu belief system).[/b:19396bd8c8]

Well, I'd certainly expect them to, if they're even within a hundred miles of each other. On Earth, cultures integrate with one another all-too-frequently, to the point where finding an original "proto-culture" for any part of the world becomes a daunting task. For example, the Semitic creation story is the one known the most in the world (a.k.a. christian creation story), but it's remarkably similar to the creation stories of nearby cultures, ie Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt. And most hopelessly of all, the story of Noah has its Parallel in the chinese myth of Nüwa. Cultures are NOT likely to remain seperated for long, on ANY world![/quote:19396bd8c8]

Not if they are isolated. What about the belief systems of Finland? Japan? The pre-colonial Americas? Indigenous African, Australian, Melanesian and Siberian belief systems? The cultures you list have a higher probability of cultural contact than that of the more isolated smaller-scale societies. From what I've read, the myth of the flood may have stemmed from a real-life flooding event that occurred somewhere in (I think) the lower part of the Arabian peninsula where the site of Jericho existed before the whole area dried out. That was atleast a thousand years or so before Sumer and Egypt came along so it is possible that the story of that flooding could have reached places like India and China at or before the myths of Noah, Manu and Nuwa became known. I still have one of the sources I got this information from (well, not at this very moment) so I will post a quote from it if you are interested.

Anyway, the Shixsa and Shilamzhu (see? Now the names even sound similar :? ) cultures had not been in contact until well after the belief systens in both cultures were established. The two species even evolved completely seperate from one another so I am at a loss as to how the two belief systems could have converged. As of now I am trying to simplify the Shilamzhu belief system into a series of folk tales centered around multiple deities (polytheism) that represent the sun, the two moons, the sand/dust in Shilam, etc. It's not going very well, especially when I get to the myth of creation. Tamiran beliefs will be centered around the sea, I think, so if I can avoid the concept of ancestors coming from the sky for the Shilamzhu, I should be OK. But then where do they come from? Maybe they have another ground-based belief system like the Mokuri religion?

If you want to know more, I'll post an analogy of the two belief systems on your other thread (the one where I requested your help on this issue).

[quote:19396bd8c8="Xhin"]BTW, Cerne, when are you going to post some more stuff of yours here? We're (see: me) all waiting impatiently![/quote:19396bd8c8]

I already have. The information is in snippets all over the board in threads whenever members ask about certain aspects of a conworld. I don't like the idea of compiling masses of information onto one seperate thread because that creates a reliance on the board to display and store information, which I would rather not do. I would prefer have my own webspace for that. In the meantime I will just wait for more requests for information to come along. Thanks for your comment though :) You would be among the first to show an interest in my conworld.

[unparsed]Would people like to know about my conworld Melville? If so, I might create a website dedicated to its description.

[unparsed][quote:598c237d08="Yiuel"]Would people like to know about my conworld Melville?[/quote:598c237d08]Yes.

[unparsed]Yes.

[unparsed]Will there be pie?

[unparsed][quote:8a6de3cdca="wheelerpm"]Will there be pie?[/quote:8a6de3cdca]

No, but we may have maple syrub with crźpes in Hundred-Houses.

[unparsed]eh? alright I'll try one, but it better be good.

[unparsed][quote:fc9d01bd4c="wheelerpm"]eh? alright I'll try one, but it better be good.[/quote:fc9d01bd4c]

I can swear it, "crźpes aux sirop d'érable" is always a good bet :P

[unparsed][quote:0bb2de2a80="Xhin"]Is it too late to say Yes?[/quote:0bb2de2a80]

It is not, even though I started the thread :P

[unparsed][b:1fba2f3f1e]Accomplished:[/b:1fba2f3f1e]
Conlang:
-Jezzali passes the 1700 words mark!
-Redid inflections

Conworld:
-Finished an overview of Nenthe Elemental Chemistry
-Finished a brief overview of the Ile Sakire

Nentsame RPG:
-Rulebook Rough Draft completed and under revision for printing and feedback
-Style Template for Worldbook completed

[b:1fba2f3f1e]Upcoming:[/b:1fba2f3f1e]
Conlang:
-A traditional Jezebeln song to be posted in Language
-Generate a short-list of new available word forms

Conworld:
-Another wall-of-text about an aspect of the Nenthe

Nentsame RPG:
-Finalize revisions and incorporate father's advice.
-Make first print run for playtesters

[unparsed]I re-worked Orithyia, changed the biology completely, (posted about the life cycles) added the Bodiless and the multidimensionals, (brief mention in the minds topic) and jumped my conculture forward a few centuries, societal structure, politics, religion, tech, etc. Temporarily renamed them the Emn. Plus fiddled with the language a little more. Also switched humanity's original status on the planet from indigenous to alien.

Still needs work:
---mechanics of bodiless biology
---languages
---conphysics. . .
---species of bodiless and of living things.

[unparsed]A game world that superficially looks like Earth... if Earth was going through all the apocolypses at once. :P Working on magic and character design.

Etrea, taking a closer look at magic among the races and how prevalent it is in each, the ability to learn other races' magics etc. Also, magic from the character's side, theories and principles. Once I get this figured out I might post a Rec Challenge for how things actually would work behind the scenes.

New shadow world, decided it is definately alternate universe/physics without being too far off... will be trying to work from physics to chem to biology, then going on to civ and individuals. Though I may make a creation myth as well soon.

[unparsed][color=red:9f610d6801]The status of Avaron[/color:9f610d6801]
With the advent of the new map of Avaron, the whole world has been redesigned and most of the information about Avaron posted this far will likely change.

[unparsed]@[b:ceb8f28425]Avaronald[/b:ceb8f28425]:
Will we see the map?

Osara update: finished the online encyclopedia, multilingual dictionary, 3 comics, 2 animation films, video game
(yes, i [i:ceb8f28425]am[/i:ceb8f28425] joking)

[unparsed][quote:cb5424a99a="Kinetiq"]@[b:cb5424a99a]Avaronald[/b:cb5424a99a]:
Will we see the map?
[/quote:cb5424a99a]
As soon as it's ready. It's still missing some items.

[unparsed][quote:fa2f6ede34="Xhin"]Sounds awesome, Iryda. When are you going to make a new post about it?[/quote:fa2f6ede34]
When I finish a chunk. Probably the Bodiless, since I have everything except what they're actually made of worked out.

[unparsed]Status update: I'm going "metachronology" in the sense used by Xhin:
I'm reworking Springtime Storm (my pre-Singularity sci-fi scenario, in a comicbook format this time) to make it a prequel to the Tales of Osara.
I'll leave hints here and there in both worlds so the careful eye can see the link. Gives me some thrills.

[unparsed][quote:22ad2594a0="Avaronald"][quote:22ad2594a0="Kinetiq"]@[b:22ad2594a0]Avaronald[/b:22ad2594a0]:
Will we see the map?
[/quote:22ad2594a0]
As soon as it's ready. It's still missing some items.[/quote:22ad2594a0]


Speaking of the map, we should finish that up.

Have you figured out the city populations and the symbolic cardinal directions?

I might be able to catch you on Skype one of these days. I'll try to be on from around noon tomorrow until 8:00 pm or so (Shanghai time); can't guarantee that though.

[unparsed][quote:40774f5b44="I"][b:40774f5b44]Sorol:[/b:40774f5b44]
Mapping:
I have mapped all of Azhnar, Faridar, Jalaun, Nizhneria, and Zarakhan, and there are a few maps of Eana, Kanwata, Kondonga, and Zazima. Also, I have incorporated all of the completed maps into a KML file that is viewable in Google Earth.
Other stuff:
I'd really like to get the mapping done first, but there is a bit of other stuff going on in Sorol now too. Nothing terribly in-depth, however.[/quote:40774f5b44]
Since I posted this I've completed the mapping for Kanwata, Kondonga, and Zazima, and added a few maps for Asmiria and Astlania. In addition to continuing work on the maps, I've also started adding pages such as this one and this one that give a rough outline of what the lay of the land is like in various regions. I'm having a lot of fun creating these pages and I'm hoping that inspiration continues in this area.

-Rob

[unparsed][quote:897a39fe1e="Xhin"]Woo hoo, another metachronologer! (-ist? -ian?)[/quote:897a39fe1e]
Metachronicler? :D
Well, I've explored various possibilities and I'm not sure I'll continue with the splicing.
It causes enormous changes in Osara because of that annoying hard science that should now be the basis of that cosmos.

[quote:897a39fe1e]I've been ridiculously busy with The Hanging Garden. More info when it's near completion.[/quote:897a39fe1e]
And the saga? Are you finally sculpting some elements in stone so you can control that frantic cosmopoiesis?

[unparsed]Well after a computer crash that destroyed all data on my pc, and not to mention drained my wallet of much hard earned cash, I'm back at square 1 oh the joy

[unparsed]I created and assisted in the creation of several more conworlds for different projects (in a consulting capacity).

Not, however, much progress on my primary works as of late.

[unparsed][quote:5874a0703e="SaLien"]Well after a computer crash that destroyed all data on my pc, and not to mention drained my wallet of much hard earned cash, I'm back at square 1 oh the joy[/quote:5874a0703e]

That's why paper is your friend! (And where paper isn't the most feasible option, ie, for layered maps, GoogleDocs is your surrogate friend.)

*

After a hiatus (one of many, I'm afraid), I'm back at conworlding. I've been especially occupied with topographical and astronomical concerns lately, though the only reason I'm exploring them now is so that I can determine their impact on mythology later.

[unparsed][quote:3b30aac515="SaLien"]Well after a computer crash that destroyed all data on my pc, and not to mention drained my wallet of much hard earned cash, I'm back at square 1 oh the joy[/quote:3b30aac515]
And this is why I store all of my important files on a thumb drive. It may not guard the rest of the computer, but it keeps my writing and artwork safe and sound, and at $25 for an 8GB, it's affordable.

[unparsed][quote:d6142151cd="SaLien"][quote:d6142151cd="Halikarnassian"]That's why paper is your friend![/quote:d6142151cd]

What is this paper you speak so fondly of? :wink:


[quote:d6142151cd="Tharivious"]
And this is why I store all of my important files on a thumb drive. It may not guard the rest of the computer, but it keeps my writing and artwork safe and sound, and at $25 for an 8GB, it's affordable.[/quote:d6142151cd]

the annoying thing is i had a back up on my portable hard drive, which was also killed by computer dying...[/quote:d6142151cd]


was it a PSU failure?

[unparsed]Too bored to create anything. Which is sad.

[unparsed][quote:a8812440ad="Fetus Commander"] was it a PSU failure?[/quote:a8812440ad]

Power surge, fried pretty much everything... last time i plug my computer directly into a power point...

[unparsed]I've had no internet. But I have been working on my world with Nephilim.

[unparsed]Currently rebuilding the nations of my conworld going from memory, but mostly new builds of the majority.

Also expanded the magic system lengthening the description of the natural decay of magic

[unparsed]Plot for about the first half of Domah's story fleshed out! Including back story and symbolism. >o< whoo!

[unparsed]Both Etrea and The Nephilim universe are being de- and reconstructed, as I'm trying to decide on "unifying themes" for the worlds and stories. Up til now it had been, "I want to have XYZ here."

[unparsed]Incredible developments in the Feylands. 2E is getting hella populated. 3E's still golden. 4E and on are developed well. Got the End of the World and how that was ended.

[unparsed]Iryal is at a bit of a standstill.

I have been doing some brainstorming about a new conworld: a little smaller in scope than Iryal. A fantasy conworld, but humans only.

Bb4r & M.Sat: care to share?

[unparsed]I'm just getting tired of thinking up a cool thing and deciding it doesn't fit the flavor of the world or that it conflicts with something else I do have. Or just that I decide later that I don't like it and toss it. My conworlds have been over any long period of time more amorphous than two amoeba doing the salsa.

[unparsed]I might have something to share soon (in a couple months, or maybe sooner).

It's not my best conworld, because it's built to purpose, but it should be pretty spiffy nonetheless.

[unparsed]I've actually been working hard on Nentsame 2.0, the second edition of my RPG I made last year. Main changes are regularization of mechanics and added fluff/spells etc.

Been developing the Nenthe, but nothing postable. It is mostly aesthetic design and trying to nail down some traits I want for the main city, the outer reaches, and the creation/epic story.

Main Inhibitors to Progress:
EVE Online
Planescape: Torment

[unparsed]Oh fuck you, now I gotta reinstall P:Torment.

[unparsed]Enjoy: it's my first time playing and it's been a blast so far :)

[unparsed]What is this "Planescape: Torment" You speak of?

Any good, from a conworlding perspective?

[unparsed]It's fucking brilliant that's what it is. WIKIPEDIA IS YOUR FRIEND

[unparsed][quote:b9fff80aa0="Mr. Saturday"]It's fucking brilliant that's what it is.[/quote:b9fff80aa0]

Basically what he said. It is an original, immersive single player roleplaying game that perhaps has the most depth of story, character development, and world-storytelling I have ever seen in a computer game. It has an intriguing, mysterious protagonist, meaningful connections between all the actors involved, and is close-knit, well written, and worth every moment of play.

Buy it now, and if you cannot buy it, download it and send money somehow to the (sadly defunct) company. It is seriously that good, and surpasses the Baldur's Gate series in excellence in CRPGs.

If this is my most glowing review of a game evar, so be it :)

EDIT: and if you really just can't play a computer game, maybe try a novelization

[unparsed]Fairly big progress on Veghinix, mostly described on the blog. The Celestines are being reworked, Ulor has it's first real preview of its final version, and there are some previews of the upcoming rework of the Ozunir, all to be found there. Still working on two novels and some new visuals, both of which are also discussed on the blog.

Not much new in the way of Infernus. Haven't had the time for that with the Veghinix overhauls, but I've got a folder full of characters waiting to be converted as soon as I have the time.

Also, waiting to hear back from a writer at DC comics with some feedback for my work.

[unparsed][quote:e3680b9e4b="Xhin"]BTW, Cerne, when are you going to post some more stuff of yours here? We're (see: me) all waiting impatiently![/quote:e3680b9e4b]

I already answered this way back in the first page but I have a more elaborate answer for you now.

[b:e3680b9e4b][u:e3680b9e4b]My conworld posts[/u:e3680b9e4b]:[/b:e3680b9e4b][list=1:e3680b9e4b]
[*:e3680b9e4b]NSSC entry
[*:e3680b9e4b]My conworld's history (long)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Shilamzhu sword dance
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri agriculture (see example)
[*:e3680b9e4b]R-selection in salmurans
[*:e3680b9e4b]My approach to naming concreatures
[*:e3680b9e4b]Problems with making new sounds (read the first paragraph)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Nudity in Salmuran cultures
[*:e3680b9e4b]Emission Theory of Vision: Salmurans and Cenosaurs
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri religion (long)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Jeff Foxworthy on salmuran cultures part 1
[*:e3680b9e4b]Chemosynthetic plants (read whole thread)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Jeff Foxworthy on salmuran cultures part 2
[*:e3680b9e4b]Noktan rendition of DDR
[*:e3680b9e4b]Explanation of Gharruzhidzhu
[*:e3680b9e4b]Gharruzhidhu is ritualized (read the last two-sentence paragraph)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Eggs in Yitnei culture (see example)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Origin of the word "Noktan"
[*:e3680b9e4b]Typical salmuran belief systems
[*:e3680b9e4b]What my conworld used to be like
[*:e3680b9e4b]A tidbit about flight technology
[*:e3680b9e4b]Eye colour and sight in salmurans
[*:e3680b9e4b]Salmurans and time
[*:e3680b9e4b]Salmurans and water part 1 (long)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Salmurans and water part 2
[*:e3680b9e4b]Types of power in my conworld
[*:e3680b9e4b]A bit on twilight
[*:e3680b9e4b]Another bit on twilight
[*:e3680b9e4b]A bit on Noktan collating sequences
[*:e3680b9e4b]Clichés in my conworld
[*:e3680b9e4b]Real life influences on salmuran cultures
[*:e3680b9e4b]Ideological features of my conworld
[*:e3680b9e4b]Evolutionary oddities in my conworld part 1
[*:e3680b9e4b]Evolutionary oddities in my conworld part 2 (explanation of first post)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Evolutionary oddities in my conworld part 3
[*:e3680b9e4b]Suicide in Mokuri mythology part 1 (only two sentences long)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Suicide in Mokuri mythology part 2
[*:e3680b9e4b]My planet doesn't haveangiosperms (see the bottom bit)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Revision of primordial tree in Mokuri mythology
[*:e3680b9e4b]Concept for three-sex conspecies
[*:e3680b9e4b]Ten point description for three salmuran cultures
[*:e3680b9e4b]What my conworld is about
[*:e3680b9e4b]How I see my conworld
[*:e3680b9e4b]Colonial politics (read entire thread)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Shixa education and caste placement
[*:e3680b9e4b]Shixa and Mokuri social titles
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri and Shilamzhu hero myths (long)
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri names
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri attitudes toward meat
[*:e3680b9e4b]Shilamshu and meat
[*:e3680b9e4b]Mokuri and root veggies
[/list:o:e3680b9e4b]

Aside from what is in this thread, here is every post I have made about my conworld or that has mentioned my conworld in it on the board so far. This thread also has bits and pieces on Mokuri lineages scattered here and there. I noticed that my conworld isn't as popular as a lot of other members' conworlds are. Any ideas on how I can change this? Post more? Start a seperate WIP thread? Artwork? Should I apply it in some other way?

[b:e3680b9e4b]EDIT:[/b:e3680b9e4b] I changed the post URLs to approximate the board's new URL. I also put the URLs into a list format and added a few posts I had forgotten about last time. Oh, and I added a title :oops:

[unparsed]Now working on the Aerun Magic System and reworking the History of Malolecta. Also adding detail to the human Niocacci Tribes. Should be able to post something friday.

[unparsed]Working on the actual narratives for once: Tuls meeting Frņ, and the leadup to the Ariei Than incident.

[unparsed]Formulating Dysnomia, fleshing out the history of the Néjadolź, creating creation myths, and metaphysicking.

[unparsed]Nephilims Universe: Helping a Nephilim discover "Damascus steal" in the Copper Age.

Etrea: Figuring out how Intent is seen and what Danpyr do with the ability to see it.

[unparsed][quote:fdeee612aa="Xhin"][quote:fdeee612aa="Mr. Saturday"]I'M FUCKING STUCK.[/quote:fdeee612aa]

Seconded. :oops:[/quote:fdeee612aa]

I am habitually fucking stuck, but I'm working to extricate myself from the fly paper. (Of course, we all know how well such an endeavor ends for the flies.)

[unparsed][quote:135a583137="Nugan"][quote:135a583137="Xhin"][quote:135a583137="Mr. Saturday"]I'M FUCKING STUCK.[/quote:135a583137]Seconded. :oops:[/quote:135a583137]I am habitually fucking stuck, but I'm working to extricate myself from the fly paper. (Of course, we all know how well such an endeavor ends for the flies.)[/quote:135a583137]Flypaper? I thought "fucking stuck" was what happened to dogs?

[unparsed][quote:8503eb0230="chiarizio"][quote:8503eb0230="Nugan"][quote:8503eb0230="Xhin"][quote:8503eb0230="Mr. Saturday"]I'M FUCKING STUCK.[/quote:8503eb0230]Seconded. :oops:[/quote:8503eb0230]I am habitually fucking stuck, but I'm working to extricate myself from the fly paper. (Of course, we all know how well such an endeavor ends for the flies.)[/quote:8503eb0230]Flypaper? I thought "fucking stuck" was what happened to dogs?[/quote:8503eb0230]

The hilarity of the above statement must not go unrecognized. Also: This weird doggy style thing, 'tis hot!

[unparsed]FUR

FAG

[unparsed][quote:40f4c74b1f="Mr. Saturday"]FUR

FAG[/quote:40f4c74b1f]

And what if I am? What are you gonna do about it, Sam? Nuthin'. I am not a yiffer, but I am not a crazy yiff-hater either. Get a life, Saturday. Yiff-hating is SO VERY old-hat. Try hating in a novel or imaginative way for a change.

Also: Yay!!! I got called a fur fag!

[b:40f4c74b1f]EDIT:[/b:40f4c74b1f]

Further, Also: Yiffing is no longer serious business.

In Addition To: I love you, Saturday.

[unparsed][quote:fff7997d74="jseamus"]Yiff-hating is SO VERY old-hat. Try hating in a novel or imaginative way for a change.
[/quote:fff7997d74]

[i:fff7997d74]M'ow.[/i:fff7997d74]

[unparsed]Jesus christ you're an irritating little shit aren't you?

[unparsed][quote:8df47aa4d5="Mr. Saturday"]Jesus christ you're an irritating little shit aren't you?[/quote:8df47aa4d5]

Yes. Yes, I am. But enough about me. Back on topic.

I am currently writing up a bit on the various pan-multiversal gods. Just about anything can be a god under some circumstance, but only a handful of them interest me, resonate with me. Trying to figure out what they all represent. Also, expanding a new world I thought up over the last week, based on a nightmare. More on that world later, maybe.

[unparsed]Working on a further tweak to the Ulor portion of Veghinix that will combine wild west imagery with Catholic uniform imagery, against the gothic-cityscape setting backdrop. No, I can't explain why. Yes, I expect it to be mostly for bizarre visuals. No, I don't have a valid reason behind it. Yes, I think it's going to be fun as hell to illustrate this. I've gotten a few pages of notes written down along with concept art for the Laachivor and Ethrovor, as well as notes on the new version of the Ozunir and Astranir, so those should follow... as soon as I have free time to actually hammer those out.

Also, some illustrations started for Infernus. Completed thus far are the undead Second, Korruute'mas (in his Infernus incarnation - a little different from this right here, but still somewhat similar), and a major departure from my usual stuff, a scene showing off the Necropolis of the Risen Beast, where Korruute'mas lairs, complete with carved pillars and whatnot. Gotta do some final touchups before scanning and uploading them, though.

Turns out two-hour breaks between classes where I have to sit around on campus are good for something after all.

[unparsed]Finished typing up a vignette with Tuls and Fro. Sending it through the Kereb Edit Machine.

[unparsed]My venerable old compy crashed, so I am not really working much at all at the moment. Trying to get to the files is about all that I'm doing now. Yay!

[unparsed][quote:9ebd8efd44="jseamus"]My venerable old compy crashed, so I am not really working much at all at the moment. Trying to get to the files is about all that I'm doing now. Yay![/quote:9ebd8efd44]
Flash drives are your friend. My files are never at risk, since I never let them out of my sight.

[unparsed][quote:662d1a0c73="Tharivious"][quote:662d1a0c73="jseamus"]My venerable old compy crashed, so I am not really working much at all at the moment. Trying to get to the files is about all that I'm doing now. Yay![/quote:662d1a0c73]
Flash drives are your friend. My files are never at risk, since I never let them out of my sight.[/quote:662d1a0c73]

Would that I had heeded your advice before you gave it.

[unparsed]Undergoing a lot of well-deserved criticism about how uncreative my conworld is, as well as a lot of undeserved suggestion that it's plagiarized, and undeserved (IMO) criticism that the conhistory and conreligion are uncreative too.

Not doing anything about it yet. Except thinking hard.

[unparsed]My congalaxy (for [i:f552f2776e]Canticles[/i:f552f2776e]):

[b:f552f2776e]w00tage[/b:f552f2776e]
- Basic galactic political structure made
- D'Sari race/culture fleshed out to a large degree
- D'Sari morality
- Broad D'Sari history (spoilers much)
- (Mostly) complete Suddakkosimh (D'Sari language) grammar
- Somewhat complete picture of D'Sari government
- Basic grammar for second race and very general linguistic tendencies for several others
- General idea of !Bungg language and government
- General locations of each race within the Milky Way
- Basic timeframe of events
- Workings of some technology (i.e., 3-manifold generators, the Apple network, RTPDs, &c.)
- Semi-finalized picture of human space (i.e., some colonies, what certain types of planets are used for, penal colonies, Epsilon Eridani, &c.)
- A fair bit of symbolism

[b:f552f2776e]To do[/b:f552f2776e]
- BOLO for storyline and/or storytelling ideas
- Complete lexicons for Suddakkosimh and other two languages
- Complete second language grammar
- Generate !Bungg language
- Name the second race (originally called the Shinichi but this will not work due to phonological/physiological considerations and grammatical plurals)
- Alphabets (or abjads, logographies, syllabaries, &c.) and orthographies
- Develop more with regards to the twenty or so languages I need to develop
- Homeworlds
- Flags/standards
- Craft the D'Sari religion (tenets, texts, prophecies)
- Three words: Alien art movements
- Put together a coherent, in-depth, gripping plot for the graphic novel(s)
- Complete physiological/metabolic/biochemical profiles of each race
- Some solar-system building
- Non-human politics (including fleshing-out of D'Sari culture)
- Other non-human religions (if applicable)
- Economic strengths/weaknesses of each culture
- Military characteristics
- Character sketches
- Make a Wiki (maybe…if I make a Wiki, do I still have the ability to exclusively create this conuniverse and use it for my own personal profit?)

[b:f552f2776e]Assistance needed[/b:f552f2776e]
- Technical explanation/justification of some of the technologies utilized (I [i:f552f2776e]love[/i:f552f2776e] hard sci-fi, after all)
- Finding a scientifically justifiable power source comparable to fusion (although in theory I could always BS it and say that the science is "beyond the comprehension of most D'Sari" [which would really be saying something])
- Creating non-human societies (probably at some point I will send out some flares)
- Quantitative conversions for various sentient standards
- The physics, climatology, biology, and other applicable sciences that come with changing the parameters of planets and their moons
- Alien art movements
- Alien (but D'Sari in particular) musical basics (I have a skeletal idea as to how it will work [and its notation to boot] but I need some musically-minded people to help me out with the finer points of the musical scales)

I work on this when I can. University studies = BRUTAL.

[unparsed][quote:925e90f483="Rorschach"]- Finding a scientifically justifiable power source comparable to fusion (although in theory I could always BS it and say that the science is "beyond the comprehension of most D'Sari" [which would really be saying something])[/quote:925e90f483]

This...is something I really need to post on too. It is the only other aspect besides the chemosynthetic plant idea that I need to be completely credible but that I do not yet have any knowledge of.

[quote:925e90f483]- Creating non-human societies (probably at some point I will send out some flares)[/quote:925e90f483]

Oooh, one of my favourite aspects of conworlding :D
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[b:925e90f483]EDIT:[/b:925e90f483]

[quote:925e90f483="chiarizio"]Undergoing a lot of well-deserved criticism about how uncreative my conworld is, as well as a lot of undeserved suggestion that it's plagiarized, and undeserved (IMO) criticism that the conhistory and conreligion are uncreative too.

Not doing anything about it yet. Except thinking hard.[/quote:925e90f483]

For anyone who is at all curious about this, click here.

Holy crap...

[unparsed]Though my compy has crashed, I am still working on one story, a story I came into just a week ago. It was initially based on the idea of a whole culture of goths. Since the initial germ of idea, I have developed it into a heroic journey from reason to madness. It is mostly based on my perverse secret desires, the Apollonian and Dionysian, Romanticism, tragedy, and dreams.

Some stuff:

# The city has sumptuary laws requiring the inhabitants t remain in mourning for the dead prince for decades at a time, waiting for the king to take a new wife and bring forth a new prince. Each time he does so, the king sacrifices his son to the Smiling One, a Dionysian god, in order to keep himself and his city young.

# Our hero is a bit of a gender bender.

[unparsed][quote:9277c84332="jseamus"]
Some stuff:

# The city has sumptuary laws requiring the inhabitants t remain in mourning for the dead prince for decades at a time, waiting for the king to take a new wife and bring forth a new prince. Each time he does so, the king sacrifices his son to the Smiling One, a Dionysian god, in order to keep himself and his city young.

# Our hero is a bit of a gender bender.[/quote:9277c84332]

:twisted: This are deelishus idea. Omnomnom

[unparsed][quote:3a5e1b5c70="bloodb4roses"][quote:3a5e1b5c70="jseamus"]
Some stuff:

# The city has sumptuary laws requiring the inhabitants t remain in mourning for the dead prince for decades at a time, waiting for the king to take a new wife and bring forth a new prince. Each time he does so, the king sacrifices his son to the Smiling One, a Dionysian god, in order to keep himself and his city young.

# Our hero is a bit of a gender bender.[/quote:3a5e1b5c70]

:twisted: This are deelishus idea. Omnomnom[/quote:3a5e1b5c70]

Thnx. You make me blush. :oops: (Not really. I can't blush.)

[unparsed][quote:4fa910b02b="jseamus"]
Thnx. You make me blush. :oops: (Not really. I can't blush.)[/quote:4fa910b02b]

You can just no one sees it. Unless they are looking at you in person. With thermal vision. *nods knowingly*

But you're welcome. Please share it when it's done, or I [i:4fa910b02b]will[/i:4fa910b02b] hunt you down.

[unparsed][quote:50811326aa="bloodb4roses"][quote:50811326aa="jseamus"]
Thnx. You make me blush. :oops: (Not really. I can't blush.)[/quote:50811326aa]

You can just no one sees it. Unless they are looking at you in person. With thermal vision. *nods knowingly*

But you're welcome. Please share it when it's done, or I [i:50811326aa]will[/i:50811326aa] hunt you down.[/quote:50811326aa]

*slightly turned on*

[unparsed]I swear to fucking christ you fuckwits god I hate you so much that henggghhh ARGH FUCK YOU FUCK YOU god why can I hate people to death

[unparsed][quote:3cbf7d235b="jseamus"]
*slightly turned on*[/quote:3cbf7d235b]

I guess people get turned on by weirder things... Maybe you'll like living in a glass box until you get that story done.

[unparsed][quote:99ba4a3a6e="bloodb4roses"]
Maybe you'll like living in a glass box until you get that story done.[/quote:99ba4a3a6e]

I need to do this, because trying to write while working at an unbearable job and running all over for a political campaign you barely give a fuck about is equal parts exhausting and impossible.

[unparsed]Many improvements and additions made to Avaron and then discarded. New races and creatures created and destroyed.

To summarize: Avaron is in a constant state of chaos, because I don't know what I want it to be. On the other hand I don't want it to be too full of clichés, but on the other hand I like the clichés. I want it to be more like FR, but in a way that it doesn't clearly resemble it. :scratch:

(I just love to be so indecisive ;) )

[unparsed][quote:52a10c4b9e="Avaronald"]Many improvements and additions made to Avaron and then discarded. New races and creatures created and destroyed.

To summarize: Avaron is in a constant state of chaos, because I don't know what I want it to be. On the other hand I don't want it to be too full of clichés, but on the other hand I like the clichés. I want it to be more like FR, but in a way that it doesn't clearly resemble it. :scratch:

(I just love to be so indecisive ;) )[/quote:52a10c4b9e]

I'm so glad you aren't god, tho that gives me an idea for a conreligion.

[unparsed][quote:4c84183fc8="bloodb4roses"]
I'm so glad you aren't god, tho that gives me an idea for a conreligion.[/quote:4c84183fc8]
:)

[unparsed]Feeling like a noob again after all that time away. -- (hello guys)
Osara, its baroque cosmology and all the people of its tales, all have been killed off by real life.
But something even crazier is budding over its corpulent corpse. That was to be expected from the insane chemistry it was born on.
First I'll catch up with all the activity here, then I'll make a new thread in the WIP forum.

[unparsed]Whoot! Welcome back. My condolences on your conworld, but at least something cool (I hope) is coming out of it.

[unparsed]My compy died, so I'm on semi-hiatus. I'm still trying to work out the shift of bilabials from my lizard folk language (b and p need to go since it makes no sense to me.), and the beginning of the language for my cat-folk the sylvanians. I'm thinking their going to have a semi-pictorial/alphabet system like hieroglyphics where the symbols both represent an object and a sound. I think it's also going to be tonal, though I don't know how I'm going to represent that in writing yet.

Avaronald: I know what's it's like to be indecisive. A favorite quote of mine is "Indescision may or may not be my problem" - Jimmy Buffet

Mr. sat: Dude, calm down.

[unparsed]Thanks bb4r! I think I'll need much more than a week end to read all the new stuff on the forums. At least I've posted something in your alchemy thread.

[unparsed][quote:5dd5259258="Kinetiq"]Thanks bb4r! I think I'll need much more than a week end to read all the new stuff on the forums. At least I've posted something in your alchemy thread.[/quote:5dd5259258]

Double whoot!

[unparsed]Development is still ongoing but at a grindingly slow pace due to my university studies. I'm working on some narrative, the Suddakkosimh lexicon, and the Sols Oswahé language in general, as well as types of spacecraft, individual craft names, and [i:34417ce0b0]in-vacuuo[/i:34417ce0b0] weaponry.

[unparsed]Would you believe me if I said that my computer (my third) crashed? The downside is obvious. The upside is that I now have a better computer running a better version of Ubuntu. So, I am still moving the Corpus from Dead Compy #3 to Currently-Working Compy #4.

Even in the midst of my tribulation, I have managed to create the first standard map of the continental/subcontinental structure of the region inhabited by the Néjadolź and their neighbours. Still working on the mountains and coast, then gonna move to the rivers and lakes, then gonna work on weather patterns in preparation for distributing forests, etc.

Yay.

[unparsed]Here is the list of posts I have made after I posted the last list in this thread. Pretty self-explanatory, seeing that my previous list is still on the same page ([size=9:b98dca323e]page 3[/size:b98dca323e]). The first post on this updated list was actually supposed to be in the previous list because it came before that list was posted, and I would have edited it in had I not forgotten about it, but it is just one post so I figure what the hell.

Same format that I used for my previous list, the stuff in brackets tell you whether a post will be really long or not - and there are some long ones in there - so read that before clicking on the link. It will save some confusion and unexpected surprises. Enjoy.

[b:b98dca323e][u:b98dca323e]My conworld posts[/u:b98dca323e]:[/b:b98dca323e][list=1:b98dca323e]
[*:b98dca323e]Technological speculation as magic?
[*:b98dca323e]Cenosaur political organization
[*:b98dca323e]Mokuri mythology revision (long)
[*:b98dca323e]Shilamzhu and slavery
[*:b98dca323e][url=http://conworlds.x10hosting.com/cwbb/viewtopic.php?p=15493&highlight=#15493]Bone armour for [i:b98dca323e]C. protosapiens[/i:b98dca323e][/url]
[*:b98dca323e]List of weapons in my conworld
[*:b98dca323e]Salmuran political compass
[*:b98dca323e]Mokuri leftism, Shilamzhu rightism and North American capitalism - a political pomparison
[*:b98dca323e]What salmurans would find annoying about North Americans
[*:b98dca323e]Salmuran social organization (read entire thread)
[*:b98dca323e]My conworld summary
[*:b98dca323e]Celebrations in my conworld part 1 (long)
[*:b98dca323e]Celebrations in my conworld part 2 (long)
[*:b98dca323e]Christmas is not celebrated in my conworld
[*:b98dca323e][url=http://conworlds.x10hosting.com/cwbb/viewtopic.php?p=16446&highlight=#16446]Comparing [i:b98dca323e]Avatar[/i:b98dca323e] with my conworld[/url] (read paragraphs 2-5)
[*:b98dca323e]Salmuran and cenosaur conlang depth
[*:b98dca323e]Salmuran and cenosaur ethics (read third post section)
[*:b98dca323e]My first cultural TC: "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" (long)
[*:b98dca323e]My conworld's history revised
[/list:o:b98dca323e]

As far as other updates go, I have a few that are worth noting.

I am changing the word "Mokuri" back to "Mokur[b:b98dca323e]a[/b:b98dca323e]" and I will be adding an acute accent to the <o> for now on to differentiate it from the <o> in "Noktan." For reference, the <o> in "Mokura" is [Ou] and the <o> in "Noktan" is . Since is in standard use in both Mókura and Noktan, making [Ou] the exception, I figure I will mark this sound rather than the other one. Both are slightly different sounds and this needs to be indicated in order to avoid mix-ups in the spelling of words in Mókura so one will need to be marked somehow. The original "Mokura" was discarded for a while because I thought it veered too much toward "Mocra/Mokra" ([size=9:b98dca323e]apparently spelled both ways[/size:b98dca323e]) which is the name of a militaristic regime from the [i:b98dca323e]Star Trek: Voyager[/i:b98dca323e] episode Resistence which is where I got the name from, but I guess I can just call it a coincidence. Also, "Mókura" has that very brief that sounds almost like an aspiration of so putting the <u> in there makes the name sound closer to what it is supposed to sound like while differentiating it from "Mocra/Mokra" enough to avoid making it look like a direct copy. Plus there is that whole <c>/<k> ambiguity thing that seems to exist on the internet, which helps me a bit.

I have also thought about revamping my conworld's geography a bit. That eastern peninsula's latitude seems to be conflicting a bit with the climates I wanted to give it. That, and it is starting to make my conworld look a bit like an Earth cliché. Things might work out though, so I may not need to revamp after all. The notion is still in its formative stage and may not stick.

Lastly, I regret to say I will no longer be making any new conworld posts. Atleast not until this whole board instability issue gets cleared up. I don't want to make any new conworld posts and then have them taken away, should the board actually go down. The conworld topic/question posts - in which most of my conworld material on this board is located - that I have not posted in yet either don't apply to my conworld or are so general that I could easily put the information into my wiki or webspace whenever I get one. I can't really make adequate posts anyways for the moment being so I don't see how it could be worth it.

[unparsed][quote:c55b68b01c="Cerne"]Lastly, I regret to say I will no longer be making any new conworld posts. Atleast not until this whole board instability issue gets cleared up. I don't want to make any new conworld posts and then have them taken away, should the board actually go down. The conworld topic/question posts - in which most of my conworld material on this board is located - that I have not posted in yet either don't apply to my conworld or are so general that I could easily put the information into my wiki or webspace whenever I get one. I can't really make adequate posts anyways for the moment being so I don't see how it could be worth it.[/quote:c55b68b01c]
Hear, hear. I don't believe that the board will go down completely. There has been a few problems, because the web host service provider has updated their hardware and software (and a couple problems caused by broken smtp settings), but hopefully they are gone now (service provider announced today that he has moved most of the sites onto a new server).
Although I cannot say that I completely trust in free services I made some research before moving the board to a free server and x10hosting.com proved to be most trustworthy: it hosts a great number of sites and it has a lively community and fast support even for free web hosting packages. (I consider this hosting service to be more trustworthy than many paid ones, some of which are quite dubious - you have no way of knowing where your money goes and how long the whole service will be available. For instance, one service provider here in Finland, that I considered using when I was moving the board to a new host, has gone bankrupt already.) Of course there might be problems with free services, but the fact that you pay for hosting doesn't mean that there won't be any troubles. I don't believe this service will just vanish into thin air overnight; and as well a fire could break out in the server room of some paid service and destroy all the data therein (although I must admit that it would be very reckless of the web host to place all its servers and backup computers in same space).

However, I must agree with Cerne when he said that [quote:c55b68b01c="Cerne"]I know I sound like a broken record on this topic by now but I would strongly suggest members start making backups of their stuff for the moment being.[/quote:c55b68b01c] I have a distrust in modern computers and technology and that's why I always have a paper copy of everything I write, for instance, in here and I think that it isn't stupid (or excessive) to make a backup of your creations. (I seem to have 'degenerated', in a sense, in technology since I nowadays write more with pen and paper or with typewriter than with computer. Obvious downside of it is the apartment being full of paper and notebooks into which only a couple jottings have been made. I don't know yet whether my new hobby (bookbinding) will make the situation better or even worse :| )

[unparsed][quote:29001fadb4="Avaronald"]I don't believe that the board will go down completely. There has been a few problems, because the web host service provider has updated their hardware and software (and a couple problems caused by broken smtp settings), but hopefully they are gone now (service provider announced today that he has moved most of the sites onto a new server).[/quote:29001fadb4]

Fine. To be fair, I won't stop posting about my conworld altogether. Just until the board stops having these uploading problems. But I am going to update my backups and my stuff won't be as long. Probably only one small paragraph at the most from now on.

.....

Coincidently I thought of a few more updates to my conworld that I didn't mention in my last post. My planet is still in an ice age but it won't be completely covered in ice. The ice caps will cover most of the temperate zone but the tropics will remain ice-free. The animals on my conworld won't be trapped underground by ice either. As such, there will probably be some surface excursions but nothing living there permanently. The latitudes above and below the tropics will be barren snow-covered wastelands with nothing living on them, though I am not so sure about the southern hemisphere because it doesn't have any land except for a few small islands dotted here and there. The tropics themselves will probably reflect what we would have seen in Europe during the early and middle Pleistocene.

I imagine the term "Cryogenic Ice Age" could still be used though, as a term for an ice age that completely freezes the planet's surface.

I am also thinking I might change the occurance of the Ice Age from a temporary one to a permanent one because I am at a loss as to how an ice age this extreme could come about on a planet with an initial hothouse environment, but then I am not completely set on this idea so I still intend to see how far I can go with my first idea.

[unparsed]Doing some major cosmology alterations to Veghinix. Cutting some planes, merging others. Ultimately, all of the existing stuff will still be there, but it'll be a lot more simple to grasp, logical to put together, and yet more removal of the hated D&Disms I've been purging in its current incarnation. Not sure when the new cosmology will make it's debut here, but it's coming.

[unparsed]*Just sat down and started writing a scene for the gothic story that I was working on for NaNoWriMo.

*Trying to pull all the different bits of World 4 into a cohesive hole:

making a language continuum across time and space

putting all the little scraps of history together

diversifying the mythology of the peoples, so that it is not all one monolithic story

trying to work out the geology and how it would effect the resource distribution

trying to apply anthropological frameworks to everything

*Got a few myth-ideas from my dreams.

[unparsed]DANG IT! Apparently there is already a creature in [i:dfed808406]Super Mario RPG[/i:dfed808406] called a mokura. Can I still get away with using the same name for my conworld? And does anyone know whether "mokura" is an actual Japanese word or was just made up for the game?

[unparsed]kura or 鞍 or くら would be saddle and...

[quote:5ab7065551]mokuru to smoke
Godan verb with ru ending, Slang[/quote:5ab7065551]
...according to http://jisho.org

[unparsed][i:ba9c2c4d0f]Mokuru[/i:ba9c2c4d0f] meaning "to smoke" would make sense because the creature in question appears as a cloud of smoke in the game, but what about the [i:ba9c2c4d0f]-a[/i:ba9c2c4d0f] ending? Can [i:ba9c2c4d0f]-ru[/i:ba9c2c4d0f] verbs be modified in such a way and keep their meaning?

BTW I tried that dictionary site you linked to but I can't seem to find either "mokuru" or "mokura" in there so I am wondering where you got that.

[unparsed][quote:d4cdb5a412="jseamus"]*Trying to pull all the different bits of World 4 into a cohesive hole:[/quote:d4cdb5a412]How do you make a hole cohere? Or, for that matter, adhere or inhere?

And, why would you want to pull all the bits of your conworld into a hole, whether it were cohesive or frangible?





(I'll bet you meant "whole".) :wink:

[unparsed][quote:8e987bb82c="chiarizio"][quote:8e987bb82c="jseamus"]*Trying to pull all the different bits of World 4 into a cohesive hole:[/quote:8e987bb82c]How do you make a hole cohere? Or, for that matter, adhere or inhere?

And, why would you want to pull all the bits of your conworld into a hole, whether it were cohesive or frangible?

[/quote:8e987bb82c]

Even if I did mean "whole," what I said still makes sense somehow, just because I said it.

[unparsed][quote:285b48e58f="jseamus"][quote:285b48e58f="chiarizio"][quote:285b48e58f="jseamus"]*Trying to pull all the different bits of World 4 into a cohesive hole:[/quote:285b48e58f]How do you make a hole cohere? Or, for that matter, adhere or inhere?

And, why would you want to pull all the bits of your conworld into a hole, whether it were cohesive or frangible?

[/quote:285b48e58f]

Even if I did mean "whole," what I said still makes sense somehow, just because I said it.[/quote:285b48e58f]
This hole exchange is making me laugh.

[unparsed][quote:8ecdd19d1d="Rorschach"]hole exchange[/quote:8ecdd19d1d]That's what happens when the entire NYSE is operating in the red. :wink:

[unparsed]On topic, might get back to Etrea's conphysics/magic, as well as working on heritability in my Nephilim story conworld.

[unparsed]I am now contemplating ways to unify Veghinix and Infernus, with the Denizens being a rationalized version/told POV from the Horrors. This would lead to a massive restructuring of both settings, though, so I'm a bit hesitant if I want to keep the bizarre mythology of the Denizens intact. The alternative is, of course, to just rewrite the Infernus material to suit the current redraft on the "fiends" in Veghinix, which could work, but could also get very, very messy.

This is the issue of having such a backlog of developed characters and no time to actually use them. :?

Either way, the reworking of the Celestines in Veghinix is well under way, and is producting what I consider to be excellent results. I might even have something worthy of showing off soon.

[unparsed]Is there any upcoming war that might make their worlds clash? Or would they live together in a relatively peaceful world or universe?

[unparsed]Merger of settings tossed aside because, fuck that, that's why. The logistics became a major headache, just because so much needed to be changed and it would have required a massive toning-down of the Infernus material that would have destroyed the intentionally over-the-top flavor of the setting.

Current project is a revision/refinement of concept on the more one-dimensional mortal groups. Xandrenians and Ozunir are getting a big reboot with the changes to the Celestines, and the Astranir are picking up some of the old Xandrenian flavor as the now sole Fey-blooded race. I'm also working out ways to raise the technology level of the non-Cerelian nations a bit to reduce the discrepancy. Once again, the domino-effect of making one change leads to excessive other ones.

[unparsed]maps maps maps in my thread

[unparsed]Working on the Nejadish conlang (now without the <é>, because there are no more diphthongs). Also trying to figure out how to get humans to evolve the way they ought to. Also just generally gathering up old and new scraps, trying to get them to cohere into a "hole."

[b:8521bd7cc2]EDIT:[/b:8521bd7cc2] I have lost interest in the "Gothic" story for now. I will eventually maybe continue to work on it.

[unparsed]my conworld is in limbo right now while i try to figure out a game system for it, or figure out how to break the interesting parts up into smaller games

[unparsed]Veghinix X.0 (seriously, I've revised it so many times I've lost count, this is probably the 5th time) is coming within the next few days, I think.

Non-human races are done. Immortals (Celestines, Dragons, and Echoes) are done. Penumbral Enclave just needs a location decided on, since basing them on another plane is a cheap little cop-out that I no longer like. Inhumans are plot devices, not mover-and-shakers, so they aren't needed for re-launch. Just need to outline the nine primary regions of the continent (which will complete the human races by extension), and it'll be ready to be shown off outside of MSN conversation previews.

There's going to be a lot of text to digest, but all that I ask is that you take it as it is without the preconceived notions from the earlier versions.

[unparsed]Playing with new ideas for deities/supernatural beings in my world. Perhaps I'll come up with a sort of list of interesting interactions.

[unparsed]So I only recently posted that I was letting go the "Gothic" story for a little while. I planned to shelve it and come back to it only if I had something really good to add to it. I think i might have just the thing to add.

I have been thinking for the past few days about incest. I was trying to make a connection between strong class systems, special circumstantial exceptions of the incest taboo, and the historical contexts of royal incest in Egypt and Hawaii.

I was also thinking about deconstruction and the Narnia books, and Romanticism and Lord Byron.

So, the upshot of all this is that I think I am developing a broader context for the "Gothic" story; It will probably borrow liberally from Romanticism and Catholicism for background, probably incorporate some deconstruction of some ideas in Narnia, and probably involve an underly mythological mechanism.

Brief outline:

The world in general is the product of twisted human minds; half remembered stories and suppressed desires surface and shape the world as the humans enter and create it. This is sort of built off of one of my favorite fan theories about why Narnia is the way it is (I can't recall if Lewis ever said anything one way or another on this): Aslan built Narnia based on Digory and Polly's imaginations, thus talking animals, dwarves, mythical creatures all mashed together.

Transformation or exposure of hidden desire is integral to the world. I am not sure if it will be as simple as "children from RL end up in Other Place." In any case, characters undergo transformations, often physical, that reveal their desires.

Transgression and aberration, mixed with (and drawn from) the world as seen from the late nineteenth century: Incest, sexual transformation, human sacrifice. These things are present throughout Romanticism/Classicism and Catholicism (not equally distributed through each, but present). Burning at the stake, eating of the host, and the Garden of Eden, Siegmund and Sieglinde, Byron and Augusta Leigh, and the work of Swinburne, Oscar Wilde, Classical Mythology, and Medieval history.

Deconstruction of some of the ideas of the Narnia books: e.g. the glorification of death in The Last Battle; the whole idea of an imagined world being a better place than the real one; the questionable depiction of the Calormen. These are all fruitful jumping off points for my own story and world creation.

I don't plan to merely hold up an ugly mirror to Narnia, but the less-than-ideal implications in those books give me ideas for an examination of the whole genre of "kids go to another world to find themselves and escape and be special." I am also thinking of "attacking" Oz, but probably to a lesser degree and from a different angle.

More updates as I have more to say.

[unparsed]Starting the long overdue overhaul of Priton, starting with Malolecta and Mytarica.

Working on climates and geography, then on the lifestyles of the people living in major regions, then their mythologies and religions, then their languages.
After that I have to revise the timeline, which is currently just a huge mess.

A lot of conworld-work ahead of me. And schools starting again tomorrow. I pick my timing pretty well.

[unparsed]Jseamus, I like your ideas. I enjoyed the Narnia series, but it would be interesting to see something darker.

I'm woking on my first conworld again, and rethinking why Solaith ends up with the family he grows up in. As well as trying to figure out a not-so-systematic form of magic for his world.

[unparsed][quote:ecca1d287e="Fetus Commander"]my conworld is in limbo right now[/quote:ecca1d287e]
Are you trying to perform inception or extraction on it? Either way, the insanely sped-up passage of time will surely generate some useful history or other stories.

All jokes aside, the world of [i:ecca1d287e]Canticles[/i:ecca1d287e] is at the following juncture:

- Suddakkosim is receiving a major overhaul; the aspirate distinctions are no longer a part of the language (because three-way is just too much), and as a result the orthography will change to include some additional digraphs as well as a flying dot.
- Pursuant to the above, the D'Sari are now known as the Dasari (because you just can't coarticulate /d/ and /ʔ/).
- The Dasari Federation is now split into twelve constituent member states.
- A new conlang (Timar) has a phonology and some basic grammatical rules.
- The major storyline behind [i:ecca1d287e]Canticles[/i:ecca1d287e] is now split up into twelve main arcs.
- Work will hopefully commence soon on Sols Oswahe, a conlang whose main in-universe purpose will be both as a liturgical language and a [i:ecca1d287e]lingua franca[/i:ecca1d287e] of the Dasari Federation, and its principal descendant languages.

And now, a word from the following sponsor.

[unparsed]Working on a meta-history for the rest of the world that Veghinix is in now that it's been condensed to a single continent. This means introducing vague details about other continents and why people with airships and radio communications know nothing about their neighbors (spoiler alert: most of them are already dead). Since I want a five continent set-up, that means four new continents need to be created, each with a distinct history that can be summed up in a few paragraphs.

Unlike other times where I've said "almost done" on something, this will actually get posted to the Wiki later tonight.

[unparsed]I am speed conworlding for Nanowrimo, and I have decided that this will be the new incarnation of what I was calling Empire of Souls (and might still). And it's on a flat world.

[unparsed]Since I have returned to my conworld after a good few years away, there is a lot on my list at the moment. Not the most getting all the general concepts up to date (even when I left it, a lot of the bits and pieces were a good few years out of date even then)

Presently I am putting together some Biological outlines for my Conspecies. Nothing overly fancy, just general 1 page outlines (I have some older ones which are longer, but don't really need that type of depth at the moment) just to nail down the specifics. Then it is back to the language sketches and the timeline (together with a mountain of sketch maps) If I can get the general outline of the history (reasonably secure in my mind but never on paper) down, then I can go into more specifics/write stuff!

[unparsed]Despite my heavy workload due to classes, I have decided that I am going to resume development of the [i:e866e77831]Canticles[/i:e866e77831] universe. Currently I'm big in the conlanging. It looks like I'm going to end up with something like twenty conlangs that I'll have to invent [i:e866e77831]in toto[/i:e866e77831] (I already have some langs in varying degrees of development).

Also, I will require some assistance in working out the climate and plate tectonics of the Dasari homeworld.

[unparsed]I have done [i:c00e3103c9]nothing[/i:c00e3103c9] in months. I'm hoping to resume work soon, though I'm not sure what I'm going to do, yet.

[unparsed]Design notes are in progress for vehicles, armor, and weaponry in Veghinix. Along with the vehicle portion, I'm working out some of the important animals in the setting, starting with the ones used as beasts of burden. Also doing a little bit of work on the Celestines' appearances at the upper end of their power scale and defining major characters across the continent. The setting seems to finally be stabilizing to the point where I can start the in-depth detailing, so, that's a plus. Biggest step forward so far is filling in names and key figures of all of the races and organizations out there in the setting.

[unparsed]I'm doing a metric megaton of conlanging. I want to get the Dasari langs up to speed so I can start using borrowings and stuff like that and make the culture more believable. I've finally got around to dusting off LaTeX and getting to use it, and have the grammars to four of my langs in various states of completion. Of them, the language with the most words currently in it is Timar, with just a touch over eleven hundred. I've also started a blog about conlanging which I will sporadically update.

Also, I'm going to scaling the recorded Dasari history timespan back by a factor of ten (sixteen thousand years as opposed to one hundred sixty thousand), have pared the number of alien races down (to just the Dasari, the Five Prime, the !Bungg, the Anonymous, and humans), and have done a major alteration to the projected plot of the storyline to be written, which in my opinion works better.

I may do a series of articles in a style ą la [i:75cd6e0f8a]Cracked[/i:75cd6e0f8a] (maybe even in the [i:75cd6e0f8a]Cracked[/i:75cd6e0f8a] thread, maybe not; who knows?) about the various Dasari cultures—the twelve main nations and the eight or ten main minority groups.

I am also planning on very soon ironing out the finer points of the astrography/astronomy/astrophysics/whatever, geography and climatology of the Dasari homeworld and home system.

So yeah.

[unparsed]I've done some further and better work on the script for my conworld's conlangs.

I don't know about others, but I've been busy actually conlanging and conscripting and conworlding and conculturing and suchlike stuff (with a little bit of "real life" thrown in to help keep things confusing).

First I need to get stuff I want to post, then I need to figure out how to post it.

Today is the first day in the last half-week or so I've actually checked in! Sorry. :oops: :(

[unparsed]My alphabet system was bugging me, so I redid it (at least a little rearranging), also I've been working on the number system. I would like to do more with culture, but I feel like I'm at a dead end.

[unparsed]Just got some historical sound changes for some languages done, and I FINALLY AFTER HALF A YEAR managed to get the map of everything to a point where I'm actually satisfied with it.

[unparsed]Working on mapping Elet, but it's going rather slowly.
I must decide: is Zalar near Iridia, or not, and many other perplexing choices.

[unparsed]I am currently working on a way to simplify the arrangement and composition of magic elements in Therigo's realm. I believe another re-write is in order, perhaps altering some of the upper and lower primordials (I have classification systems for the elements.)

I am also contemplating the canonization of another era of Therigonian history involving the enlightenment of the world upon the origins of the universe and the advancement of thaumatic technology to the point of superscience. A time when high fantasy becomes science fiction. Of course, I will have to end their history at some point, so now I'm contemplating how the world will end or be ascended spiritually or something, I hope it does not come to an apocalypse, I would much rather there be some cataclysm setting back their thaumatic technology, that would actually make an excellent plot point.

I think I have revealed enough of my musings for now, interpret it as you wish.

[unparsed]I'm meaning to get back into the groove here with my consetting, albeit that I'm working on other stuff too. But I'd like to become more active on here.

[unparsed]Knock knock! I hope you guys are all fine and creating. Lemme see what you've been coming up with during these years...
I've been tinkering with a few things but remained on French speaking forums because of laziness.

[unparsed]Anyone else have a status update?

As for me and my conworld, I've been pretty distracted since 12/9/12 when my mom died and 1/5/13 when my ex (my daughter's mom) died.

For awhile there I was spending a lot of time going to Child Protective Services and court and so on.

(Some fu***ad said I was abusing Shelly. CPS decided I wasn't, but that I wouldn't be able to care for her in my home without help I didn't have. Then there was a lot of trouble over finding her a place to live.)

I'm now back, I guess, to conworlding and conlanging; at least some.

[unparsed][quote:d2a7de8539="chiarizio"]As for me and my conworld, I've been pretty distracted since 12/9/12 when my mom died and 1/5/13 when my ex (my daughter's mom) died.[/quote:d2a7de8539] :cry:

[quote:d2a7de8539="chiarizio"]Anyone else have a status update?[/quote:d2a7de8539]
I've been putting off writing the higher and lower realms, though I have ideas for several of them.

[unparsed][quote:ff5f8460fb="Quillwraith"]I've been putting off writing the higher and lower realms, though I have ideas for several of them.[/quote:ff5f8460fb]
Finally got around to some of that writing. not ready to post yet, though.

[unparsed]well i have a few new species and next to no idea of what kind of worlds to put them in. in one case, i don't even know if they are fantasy or scifi....

also i now type like i do on tumblr. it has ruined me

[unparsed][quote:af0aca2e81="bloodb4roses"]well i have a few new species and next to no idea of what kind of worlds to put them in. ....
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Would you like to describe (or partially describe) some (or one) of them?

[unparsed][quote:57228f104f="chiarizio"][quote:57228f104f="bloodb4roses"]well i have a few new species and next to no idea of what kind of worlds to put them in. ....
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Would you like to describe (or partially describe) some (or one) of them?[/quote:57228f104f]

yes but i'm not sure where to put the descriptions just now

[unparsed][quote:522bd9911c="bloodb4roses"][quote:522bd9911c="chiarizio"][size=7:522bd9911c]Would you like to describe (or partially describe) some (or one) of them?[/size:522bd9911c][/quote:522bd9911c][size=9:522bd9911c]yes but i'm not sure where to put the descriptions just now[/size:522bd9911c][/quote:522bd9911c]
I look forward to it.

[unparsed]My status on Adpihi and Reptigan is; I couldn't get on to the ConWorlds Bulletin Board for so long, that right now I am busy trying to re-orient myself. I hope I have more to say later.

[unparsed][quote:8363092a34="chiarizio"]My status on Adpihi and Reptigan is; I couldn't get on to the ConWorlds Bulletin Board for so long, that right now I am busy trying to re-orient myself. I hope I have more to say later.[/quote:8363092a34]

I'm afraid I have to say this again. (Today is Monday 20 July 2015).
The problems are not over, but maybe they'll not be so frequent that I can't do anything.
I'll have to re-orient etc ā€¦ have more to say later.

[unparsed]After what seems like a year I'm actually working on Saltha again. Somewhat. I did a little bit for work on a little travelouge type story I was doodling, and updated info on the travel guide and I'm working on a sort of model city in minecraft of one of the cities in my conworld.

[unparsed]Tell us about it, Foolster and Xhin!
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I'm about ready to start to work on Adpihi/Reptigan again. That is, I have some further thoughts on ideas I'd had a while back, and think they might be ready to commit to.

[unparsed]Status updates?

[unparsed]Iā€™ve done more about Adpihi and Reptigan.

Reptigan now has class exogamy.
There are ways richer people can sponsor promising young adults and adolescents from not-rich families.

Iā€™ve modified Adpihiā€™s (and Reptiganā€™s) anthroponymic naming-systems slightly, as regards ā€œforenamesā€ (individual personal names).
Iā€™ve also added traditions between grandparents and their children-in-law who are the parents of their grandchildren.
And Iā€™ve made progress on the Adpihi languageā€™s native terms for matriclan and patriclan and ā€œropeā€. Right now Iā€™m looking at ā€œmilk-houseā€ for matriclan, ā€œblood-pathā€ for patriclan, and ā€œrobeā€ for geun or alterclan.
And there may be more.

And I have a new multiracial fantasy conworld!
It has
ā€œPlains Peopleā€ (aka Men or Humans),
ā€œMine Peopleā€ (aka Dwarves),
ā€œWoods Peopleā€ (aka Elves), and
ā€œLake and River Peopleā€ (aka MerCentaurs).
Iā€™ve said a few things about them.

And Iā€™ve made a few decisions about the people who speak my conlang Arpien.
I wonder whether they should be the Plains People in my multiracial fantasy world?

I figured out the basic government of single-species groups of hominoid species in Ataivsh;
And of four-species groups;
And I figured out MerCentaur kinship.