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Anyone here ever still read comics?

Posted 8 Months ago by Grey Echelon

Mostly just wondering. In recent years I've gotten a bit into comics on and off despite basically never reading them before. In particular DC comics, not really bothering with marvel so far.

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they wre always difficulte for me to read in general b ut I've dabbled m ostly in manga.

8 Months ago
tnu

I stopped reading most comics years ago. I occasionally read some dank manga like Berserk, Grappler Baki, etc.

Overall, I've really focused in on music as my medium of choice, though Slavoj Zizek has gotten me more interested in film than I have been in a while.

8 Months ago
9x19mm

Never really got in to music myself always preferred narrative mediums.

8 Months ago
tnu

How do you feel about mediums/formats that are pseudonarrative, like prose poetry?

8 Months ago
9x19mm

I never had much interest in them I had a friend from way back in the dya on GT whow ould share poetry with me but I was always bad at giving feedback because I found the medium hard to connect with.

8 Months ago
tnu

Are you into ARGs or chaotic fiction at all?

8 Months ago
9x19mm

Ever since webtoons became a thing I’ve been keeping close watch on my favorite ones.
Since moving and since my sister took over my finances I’ve had to quit with the hardcopy comix, not that I wanted to.
I donated over $1000 worth of them to my local libraries and limited my shelf space.
I read everything Aviatrix produces. Well, everything I can find without becoming one of those obsessive fan stalkers.
And probably a double handful of other creators, too.
Before the pandemic I also went to the local libraries of my own and nearby towns and read what I could borrow or what they’d let me read on-site. I miss the days when the worst plague was the swarms of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I haven’t been to a library in nine months.

8 Months ago
chiarizio
 

I read everything Aviatrix produces. Well, everything I can find without becoming one of those obsessive fan stalkers.

Thats ok. This is how I know I've 'made it'. <3

Anyway to the thread...

I mostly read webcomics; I don't have a ton of cash in my life to spend on paper comics, and probably wouldn't even if I did. Mostly just tired of superheroes. 'Lackadaisy Cats' is a wonderfully well-drawn read, though it updates slowly. 'A Tale of Two Rulers' is a Zelda fanfic comic with absurdly good art, and has become my guilty pleasure. And then there's 'Tiger, Tiger' by Petra Nordlund, which is just full of maritime fun. Of course I also have to plug my own work. If alt history and mild steam punk appeal to you, check out 'Fury of the Dawn' by Hannah Liberator.

There are a few graphic novels I would reccomend- anything by Marjane Satrapi is good if you like anecdotal history. I also recently read 'Harlem Hellfighters' by Max Brooks and it was delightful. But also sad. Speaking of sad history. Maus I & II by Art Spiegelman is a classic.

Edit to add more:

Habibi by Craig Thompson is beautiful.

The Prince and the Dressmaker by Jen Wang is a fairytale masterpiece.

Bandida by Kat Fajardo has made me cry on occasion.

What comics do you like, Grey?

8 Months ago
Aviatrix

Are you into ARGs or chaotic fiction at all?



Don't know what chaotic fiction is but I have a passing interestin ARGs.

8 Months ago
tnu

I’ve had to quit with the hardcopy comix, not that I wanted to.
I mostly read webcomics; I don't have a ton of cash in my life to spend on paper comic
I mean there are sites you can read them online for free and there are places you can pay for digital copies. The free option is how I roll lol.

What comics do you like, Grey?
Literally just dc superhero stuff so far, and that might be because I've only recently started comics at all and dc animated stuff and video games kind of made me want to see more initially which led me to reading injustice as my first then animated series led to read other stuff. Now I'm reading random parts of... whatever came after the "rebirth" which is also after new 52 of dc I guess, anything from doomsday clock (watchmen sequel... don't ask me why I read that before watchmen), the dark nights metal and related series and anything that vaguely is connected to it and anything I happen to notice from around this time which is like recent years that catches my interest too. More recently been reading the new batman series and going into the "joker war" series. I like what I'm seeing so far, and I think in general people are overstating how much superhero comics suck now at least on the dc side. But that could just be me. But ya I kind of grew up more with DC than marvel I guess and I haven't had anything to pull me into more general comics for the most part. I just didn't want to make this thread about like superheroes, but that's kind of all I have to talk about at the moment regarding comics. I think I read like an avatar the last airbender comic and maybe other stuff once though.

However I have randomly read webcomics and fan stuff in the past that I can't remember at the moment.

anything by Marjane Satrapi is good if you like anecdotal history

Any novel in particular you'd suggest?

8 Months ago
Grey Echelon

Re: Satrapi. Start with 'Persepolis'.

The Joker is the finest that DC has to offer. And I don't say that lightly. I find the cyclical/eternal struggle theme of the Joker-Batman relationship to be infinitely satisfying.

8 Months ago
Aviatrix

Re: Satrapi. Start with 'Persepolis'.
I may look into it. I'm more for alternative history though I think.

The Joker is the finest that DC has to offer. And I don't say that lightly. I find the cyclical/eternal struggle theme of the Joker-Batman relationship to be infinitely satisfying.
It's interesting but in this random stuff I've found myself reading I've found other characters as interesting such as Black Adam (because he makes for an interesting character who isn't necessarily a villain whose motivations seem more grounded in reality while being more I guess understandable at times than a lot of villains... at least in the comics I've seen, but don't quote me on that since comics can do a lot of things.) or... with a more recent one well the Batman who laughs. but that would be hard to explain and then when it's explained it'd be hard to explain why I find it interesting. I'll just say I think the most interesting thing about him can be the situations he ends up creating. And apparently he's actually pretty popular now as far as dc comics go if not also a bit controversial. Main universe/normal Batman is still around though.

8 Months ago
Grey Echelon

I had to stop this year because the pandemic pretty much destroyed my financial stability, but I've gotten pretty into comics in my day. I mostly kinda got out of superhero stuff in more recent years. I was more of a Marvel guy, but they rebooted their world in a weird way that I didn't care for with Battleworld. And then DC kinda did that with Flashpoint/New 52/Rebirth. I looooooved 52 and had really felt invested in a bunch of those characters. But then they basically wrote many of them out of existence with the New 52. I think many of them have worked their way back in, but I really wasn't feeling most of the changes they made. (I also don't really love Geoff Johns's obsession with making the version of the characters he grew up with *the* version of the character we have now. Like, Wally West will always just be a more fun and engaging character to me than Barry Allen. And literally *any* Green Lantern is better than Hal Jordan. But because when Johns grew up, Allen and Jordan were the Flash and Lantern, now they're the default.)

Marvel used to have a lot of the best writers, in my opinion. There was a time they had Warren Ellis, Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Dan Abnett, and Andy Lanning writing. For my money, the best superhero comics of the past couple decades have been from Marvel. Matt Fraction and David Aja's run on Iron Fist was incredible. Ed Brubaker and Michael Lark's run on Daredevil was one of the best. Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning co-wrote a stellar Guardians of the Galaxy and Nova series and I really don't think we'd have gotten those movies without that. Warren Ellis had a pretty good Iron Man story with Extremis, had an amazing short run on Moon Knight, and then did the amazing and criminally under-rated Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. Christos Gage had a fun Avengers: Initiative and followed that up with a good Avengers: Academy.

Which isn't to say I think there aren't any good DC stuff. I liked J. Michael Stracyzinski's run on Superman back in the day. And I think more recently, Tom King had a very good run (in my opinion) on Batman. And for my criticisms of Geoff Johns overall, his run on The Flash pre-Flash: Rebirth was great. 52 was one of the greatest event series I think I've read. I guess I've also sorta felt like Marvel did events better. But during my time, the only worthwhile DC event was 52. I hated Flashpoint. I hated Final Crisis. And that kinda got me out of DC. Marvel had Civil War (which is over-rated, but was still a fun event series), the also under-rated World War Hulk, Secret Wars (which was mostly fine? I had some problems with it), and Siege, which was nearly perfect being only four issues.

After a decade and a half, I kinda just got exhausted with superhero stuff, so I shifted more into non-superhero stuff. Saga, Sex Criminals, anything by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips, Monstress, Paper Girls, Bitch Planet, Injection. Stuff like that. I think the only superhero stuff that I was still reading by the end was Batman, Black Panther, and Ms. Marvel.

But yeah, there was straight up a period of my life where I was getting like, 20 comic series a month. I'd get like, Avengers Initiative, Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova, Amazing Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Iron Man, Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Ms. Marvel, New Avengers, Superman, Detective Comics, Green Lantern Corps, The Flash, Batwoman, Teen Titans, Black Panther, Invincible, Walking Dead, Y: The Last Man, Ex Machina, Astonishing X-Men, Mighty Thor, Atomic Robo, Neozoic, and briefly Ghost Rider (there was a pretty neat run for a brief period.) And then there was aaaaall the events. That was back when I had like, next to no real expenses, ha.

I do miss it. There was something rad about going into a comic shop on Wednesdays to pick up new books and shooting the shit with the other nerds. Alas. I still definitely read comics! But now I'm kinda at a point where I'd rather get the trade paperbacks when they come out. I'm doing that with Saga, and I kinda wish that I had done that with Y: The Last Man because I own like, the first 7 tpb for that series, but by the time I finished the 7th, I was all caught up so had proceeded to buy the new monthly issues to stay up to date.

I easily have thousands of comics in my basement, and they're a huge pain in the ass to move every time I get a new place! It's kinda funny re-visiting them because they so often make reference to other comics at the time, so it's like, I'll be reading Black Panther and there will be a footnote that's like "See X-Men #323" and I have to try to remember what was going on in X-Men in 2007. I keep hoping there's some kid that I can pass them onto. But it might be a while since my closest nephew is literally just a few months old.

8 Months ago
Jet Presto

For clarity: I got fatigued with superheroes on an ongoing basis. I still read trades sometimes when people recommend a particular run. But these days, I'm much more likely to follow writers and artists than characters. There are some characters I just really like and want to see what other writers will do with (like Ms. Marvel and this would be true of Namor if they ever gave Namor his own series....) And I would definitely check out a Renee Montoya/The Question book if it existed (I know she showed up a lot in Batwoman, but I had already fallen out). But by and large, I'm kinda just at the point where I pay more attention to the writers whose work I know I generally like.

I'm not against all the rebooting at all. DC definitely has more of a history of doing it more often, but I don't mind so long as they make changes that are interesting (obviously very subjective). Marvel made a few changes that I liked and a lot that I didn't. DC made mostly changes that I did not like. I think with DC, I just find their obsession with the Injustice universe to be so...miserable... Like I'm personally tired of "what if Superman were evil?" stories. The movies never really work for me because they're just so bleak and cynical. I very much like a number of these characters because they *weren't* bleak and cynical.

8 Months ago
Jet Presto

Not often, and DEFINITELY not DC or Marvel. Check out Doug TenNapel's work. Bigfoot Bill and Earthworm Jim are both great reads, from my experience. That, or look online for where to "buy" (wink wink nudge nudge) older comics.

8 Months ago
Axem Great Water

Check out Doug TenNapel's work.

What all does he do? I'm probably not gonna be super into it without something to pull me in.

That, or look online for where to "buy" (wink wink nudge nudge) older comics.

Eh thanks for the tip but the new ones still seem to be decent. There seems to be a bit of a culture of things like sensationalizing things like standalone comics or graphic novels and acting like comics are generally terrible but then there seems to still be plenty good in the main continuity or universe or whatever. At least with DC in my experience.

But ya I'll probably read some old ones too if the plot and whatever seems interesting.

8 Months ago
Grey Echelon

I just find their obsession with the Injustice universe to be so...miserable... Like I'm personally tired of "what if Superman were evil?" stories. The movies never really work for me because they're just so bleak and cynical. I very much like a number of these characters because they *weren't* bleak and cynical.

Also forgot to reply to this but huh. Because that seems to be a lot of people's complaints with new 52 from what I hear which you seem to like? I mean I definitely liked injustice and that sort of this too though, but it sounds like dc after rebirth seems to be less of that. I mean it's still around but it sounds lessened from everything I hear.

But ya I can like it either way and I certainly have no problem with injustice like stuff, in fact that's what first got me into their comics. I like seeing all of the flaws and what superheroes could[/i/ happen with superheroes. I mean I don't apply that outlook to other things all the time but I feel like this is an area where it works. Imo.

8 Months ago
Grey Echelon

@everyone:
I second the motions re Marjane Satrapi.
And re Renee Montoya.
....
Craig Thompson is a familiar name, but I can’t call to mind what I’ve read by him?
...
Habibi is Arabic for “Baby” or “Darling” or “Sweetheart” or something like that. I might like that comix.

8 Months ago
chiarizio
 

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