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Solo - A Star Wars Story
Posted: Posted June 12th, 2018 by Trever Leingod
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Has anyone here seen it yet? I intend to see it this week before the showings stop. Nearly every review I have heard on it was fair to positive, but it is supposedly flopping in sales as a result of the fan backlash towards The Last Jedi.

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I personally put it down to the time of release (6 months after the last one, plus a different time of year the last several) as well as poor advertising. Can't say I really saw any TV ads for it. My and my group of friends are pretty big star wars fans and we almost completely forgot it was coming out.

Also wasn't that interested in a Han Solo prequel :P

As for the movie. On reflection it was ok, but that was it. Without getting in to spoilers.

Posted June 12th, 2018 by Redack
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I personally put it down to the time of release (6 months after the last one, plus a different time of year the last several) as well as poor advertising. Can't say I really saw any TV ads for it. My and my group of friends are pretty big star wars fans and we almost completely forgot it was coming out.

I wouldn't care about the time of release myself, and several Star Wars movies were released at the same time of year. Supposedly they spent millions on ads, but you're right - I saw very little advertising for this movie compared to previous movies.

Also wasn't that interested in a Han Solo prequel :P

I keep hearing that, which is somewhat surprising considering that he has such a fan following. I mean some people want a Boba Fett film but not a Solo film? Fett wasn't even that prominent of a character.

Posted June 12th, 2018 by Trever Leingod
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Also saw it late. The trailers never really captured my interest because A: I didn't think Han's backstory needed explaining and B: The actor they picked to play him never really seemed like Han (which was basically an impossible task for anyone).

But ultimately I enjoyed it. Its not one of the best Star Wars movies, but I don't think its one of the worst either.

I mean some people want a Boba Fett film but not a Solo film?

I think a Boba Fett film where we follow Boba Fett the whole time would be pretty hard to pull off. But if it was a Terminator 2 style thing where we're following one of his marks and every time Fett shows up he's just this unstoppable force that'd be pretty cool.

Edited June 12th, 2018 by Count Dooku
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I think a Boba Fett film where we follow Boba Fett the whole time would be pretty hard to pull off. But if it was a Terminator 2 style thing where we're following one of his marks and every time Fett shows up he's just this unstoppable force that'd be pretty cool.

That's a pretty cool concept.

Posted June 12th, 2018 by Trever Leingod
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I mean some people want a Boba Fett film but not a Solo film? Fett wasn't even that prominent of a character.

I think the fact that he wasn’t a prominent character is probably why people are hungry for more on him.

Posted June 12th, 2018 by Ceta
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I want a Boba Fett film that's like, a straight-up slapstick comedy where Boba Fett is like a bumbling Mr. Magoo type character. And he is partnered with a droid that is dealing with crippling self-doubt.

Anyway, I don't think the negative response to SOLO was really about The Last Jedi (although the toxicity of an annoying size of Star Wars' fan base doesn't necessarily exclude that many idiots were doing that). But SOLO was plagued with production problems from the start. The director change didn't help it. Then there were rumors that Alden Ehrenreich wasn't performing well and needed an acting coach on set didn't make it seem all that much better.

On top of that, Han Solo was one of those characters that was always "cool" because we didn't totally know his backstory. It's sort of like...Wolverine in the first X-Men versus Wolverine in every X-Men movie since. The more mysterious his past, the more interesting he was. And given that he was a main character in the original trilogy, we sort of already know where his arc ends. It feels a little pointless. It would have been better to make a movie about Lando to be honest; not just because of Donald Glover's pop culture relevance right now (and that he is genuinely a good actor), but because Lando isn't really a character that people super gravitated towards in the original. Like he's cool and everything, but he's sort of not that essential to the plot, and he's just sort of there to be cool.

As for the film itself, it doesn't help that it's...fine? I guess? I think it's easily the worst Star Wars film since Revenge of the Sith. To me, the production woes were totally noticeable in the way the tone seems horribly inconsistent and certain characters fluctuate in writing a lot (a result in a change of directors). There were too many pointless action sequences, mixed with too much time wasted to explain minute details that don't matter.



And holy shit are there too many action sequences. Seriously, there's like, 15 minutes of plot in the entire film, but 2 hours of endless action sequences that have no real stakes, don't push the plot forward, and don't provide character beats. There are things to like about the film, but it is largely just...not that good. Word of mouth does have an impact on ticket sales.

It's also funny that it's being panned as a "flop." Film grossed $101 million in its opening weekend. Yes, I know they expected more. Yes, I know it is the lowest Star Wars opening weekend (which I still think has more to do with the apparent quality and production woes). But what are these standards where $100+ million is a "flop"? It's so weird.

Edited June 14th, 2018 by Jet Presto
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You might spoiler some of that Jet. I don't think Trever has seen the movie yet.

Posted June 12th, 2018 by Count Dooku
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Posted June 12th, 2018 by weid man
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Anyway, I don't think the negative response to SOLO was really about The Last Jedi (although the toxicity of an annoying size of Star Wars' fan base doesn't necessarily exclude that many idiots were doing that). But SOLO was plagued with production problems from the start. The director change didn't help it. Then there were rumors that Alden Ehrenreich wasn't performing well and needed an acting coach on set didn't make it seem all that much better.

Rumors are always just rumors to me. I can't speak for virtually anyone else but none of that would remotely push me from seeing it. I heard Rogue One had tons of reshoots but that didn't stop me from seeing that either.

It would have been better to make a movie about Lando to be honest; not just because of Donald Glover's pop culture relevance right now (and that he is genuinely a good actor), but because Lando isn't really a character that people super gravitated towards in the original. Like he's cool and everything, but he's sort of not that essential to the plot, and he's just sort of there to be cool.

As far as I know, Donald Glover is only a pop culture big shot right now because of the "This is America" MV, which was only released several weeks before Solo. No way anyone could have known that was going to happen. I would not say Lando was unessential at all by the way- he was a core character for ESB and he blew up the second Death Star.

And holy shit are there too many action sequences. Seriously, there's like, 15 minutes of plot in the entire film, but 2 hours of endless action sequences that have no real stakes, don't push the plot forward, and don't provide character beats. There are things to like about the film, but it is largely just...not that good. Word of mouth does have an impact on ticket sales.

Word of mouth takes a few days to spread though and a lot of people were saying the premiere showings were super weak.

It's also funny that it's being panned as a "flop." Film grossed $101 million in its opening weekend. Yes, I know they expected more. Yes, I know it is the lowest Star Wars opening weekend (which I still think has more to do with the apparent quality and production woes). But what are these standards where $100+ million is a "flop"? It's so weird.

Probably because it said to be one of the most expensive films ever made and will need to gross at least $500 million to break even, not counting marketing costs. Not sure how that all pans out since it had a $250 million budget, but it's not raking anywhere near the cash that TFA did.

You might spoiler some of that Jet. I don't think Trever has seen the movie yet.

Nothing that spoiler-y there really. I actually saw an article shared on Facebook that spoiled something big in the title of said article, and it was like a day after the film was release: .





Posted June 13th, 2018 by Trever Leingod
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It's also funny that it's being panned as a "flop." Film grossed $101 million in its opening weekend. Yes, I know they expected more. Yes, I know it is the lowest Star Wars opening weekend (which I still think has more to do with the apparent quality and production woes). But what are these standards where $100+ million is a "flop"? It's so weird.


The last I had heard it was sat at a $50million loss, I think that was maybe a week ago so they may have made that money back.

It would have been better to make a movie about Lando to be honest


For sure and I found the Lando actor to be way better at his respective character than Han Solo's actor was.



Posted June 13th, 2018 by Redack
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