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Posted: Posted June 25th, 2012 by Xhin

I'd like to outline how this place works since it comes up a lot.

Limited Site Rules

The site rules here are very limited and common sense-oriented. If you notice, there are no site rules against flaming, trolling, advertising, post-specific swearing, etc:

[h:8]

Mini-Dictators

Outside of the site rules and "special rules", forum mods can set rules about what to allow and disallow in their own forum. These rules apply only in their forum, as do punishments for breaking them.

A forum mod can also use their own discretion in dealing with situations as they arise. It's better if what they're doing is indicated in their forum rules, but not necessarily required.

Special rules

Certain rules apply to forums regardless of who moderates them:

  • Nonsensical posts are allowed in pointless as they always have been.

  • Opinions of all kinds (including controversial ones) are allowed in debate forums (Special Topics on the quicklinks).

  • Bans should be issued only for breaking Site Rules in the complaints forum.

    So, to review the hierarchy of rules:

  • DISALLOWED STUFF: Site Rules > Forum Rules
  • ALLOWED STUFF: Special Rules > Forum Rules

    The Balance of Power

    Very briefly, I want to cover how the staff works. It isn't really necessary to know this section, but it does contribute to the overall picture.

  • Forum/Local mods are the mods of a specific forum. If the forum has no mods, all staff are local mods.
  • Roaming mods include ANY staff that visits a forum moderated by another.

  • Global mods are not higher in the hierarchy, they just have the added responsibility of deleting and globally banning.
  • Admins are also not higher in the hierarchy, they just have multiple added responsibilities, including dealing with rogue mods.

    If you're a roaming mod in a moderated forum, you must respect the rules of that forum and not make judgment calls on your own except in extraordinary circumstances. You can however enforce site rules.

    The Complaints Process

    I also want to cover this briefly. The complaints process is a system where non-mods can resolve local rule disputes.

    1. Forum mods moderate their forum however they want, as per the sections above.

    2. If a user doesn't like that, they can contest the decision in the [Dispute Resolution] forum. After some discussion, an admin can overturn a forum decision. The admin making the decision cannot also be the local mod of that forum.

    3. If the forum mod doesn't like THAT, they can contest the admin decision in the mod forum. The final decision is determined by a consensus of all staff.

    The above process gives a non-mod power in a forum they frequent.

    So, to review:

  • DISALLOWED STUFF: Site Rules > Forum Rules
  • ALLOWED STUFF: Special Rules > Forum Rules

  • Enforcement in unmoderated forums: Mod discretion > Forum rules
  • Enforcement in moderated forums: Forum mod discretion > Forum rules > Roaming mod discretion

  • Complaints process: Consensus of staff > Admin decision > Reg complaint > Mod enforcement

    If you don't make a complaint, it's your fault if a situation doesn't get dealt with.

    Conclusion

    So yes, hopefully this gives you a good idea of how things work around here. Thoughts? Comments?

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    I'd like to add a bit to the Complaints part.

    When a non-mod makes a complaint about a mod decision, we admins shouldn't immidiatly jump in making demands and commands. The complaintant and defending mod should be given a chance to talk the issue out.

    There is nothing wrong with uninvolved users/mods expressing an opinion on a complaint. In fact, it should be encouraged, as it shows how the site feels. However, nobody should use angry or hostile language. It just makes it harder for the complaint to be handled correctly, and can cause those invoved to become angry and defensive themselves.

    If an admin/staff consensus DOES need to get involved, and a decision is made that you don't like, don't flip out. Just like in the real world, sometimes we have to accept things we don't like.

    Lastly, we are no tholding you hostage here. If you can't find it in yourself to accept these rules/guidelines, leave. We don't want disgruntled users moping around and trolling(like Knuckles).

    Posted June 25th, 2012 by Wild Luxray
    Wild Luxray
     

    Rule #1

    There is no GTx0.

    Rule #2

    There is no GTx0.

    Posted June 25th, 2012 by OWA, who loves OWA OWA, who loves
    OWA, who loves OWA OWA, who loves

    I'm still confused, could you repeat everything after "I'd"

    Posted June 25th, 2012 by Redack
    Redack
    Altname for Moonray

    Opinions of all kinds (including controversial ones) are allowed in debate forums (Special Topics on the quicklinks).

    But muh feelings

    Posted June 25th, 2012 by #85
    #85

    I thought all of this was pretty clear by now.

    Posted June 25th, 2012 by Trever Leingod
    Trever Leingod

    I thought all of this was pretty clear by now.

    Except there are people here including myself who assume the mods have higher authority then us users which I was why if a mod disagrees with me, then online I will give my fake opinion to make it look like I agree in fear of being banned.

    This is because an opinion might look like an insult to some people. I also assumed that the Admins could tell the mods what to do, but that's not the case.

    Is this saying the in a technicality mods/admins/non-mods all have equal rights with communications around here and if a mod gets mad at you because the two of you don't agree with each other on an opinion and the two of you fight, the mod has just as much right to get banned as the user?

    Posted June 26th, 2012 by Teddy-Son
    Teddy-Son
     

    Everyone on the site has to follow the rules, Ted. Disagreeing with a mod is not a banable offense - if any mod bans you for doing so, he can be fired for abusing his power. Flaming a mod is banable but only in the same way as flaming a reg. Admins and mods enforce the rules and keep the place orderly. But they don't get special treatment in regards to site rules.

    Posted June 27th, 2012 by Trever Leingod
    Trever Leingod

    I also assumed that the Admins could tell the mods what to do, but that's not the case.

    They can definitely make recommendations since they have the ability to fire mods, but won't do so unless they're inactive or fucking up the site/forums for the regs.

    Is this saying the in a technicality mods/admins/non-mods all have equal rights with communications around here and if a mod gets mad at you because the two of you don't agree with each other on an opinion and the two of you fight, the mod has just as much right to get banned as the user?

    Yeah, what Trever said. Also see [h:9]:

    3. Breaking a site rule against a moderator (ie, flaming or excessive cursing) is NOT a greater offense than doing so against another user.
    4. Failing to follow site rules or local rules (including your own) is a suspendable offense.


    Posted June 27th, 2012 by Xhin
    Xhin
     

    but won't do so unless they're inactive or fucking up the site/forums for the regs.

    And sometimes been then they don't...

    Posted June 27th, 2012 by Redack
    Redack
    Altname for Moonray

    The Balance of Power

    Very briefly, I want to cover how the staff works. It isn't really necessary to know this section, but it does contribute to the overall picture.

    Forum/Local mods are the mods of a specific forum. If the forum has no mods, all staff are local mods.

    Posted August 18th by Saltyyyy
    Saltyyyy
     

    That moment when someone replies to an old thread and you notice the typo you made 5 years ago got auto-corrected to the wrong word...

    Posted August 18th by Moonray
    Moonray

    I'd like to announce that I am running for site President. Let's make video games great again!!

    Edited August 18th by Q
    Q
    64 Bits of Pure Power!

    seems like a redundant position

    Posted August 18th by Pirate_Ninja
    Pirate_Ninja
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