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Female police Captain fired after accusing fellow officers of not understanding due to White Male Privilege
Posted: Posted December 5th by Kaot0

How does it happen? How does the paramilitary get infiltrated by these ducks? Well, people are getting fed up now and that is a relief.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/hendricks-county/plainfield-police-captain-on-leave-after-white-male-privilege-comment-at-training-session
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PLAINFIELD, Ind. -- A captain with the Plainfield Police Department was placed on administrative leave after making a statement about white male privilege during a transgender awareness session for police.

The comment came on Nov. 1, at the Police Supervisors Transgender Awareness Training session. A representative from the U.S. Department of Justice and a United States attorney were instructing police on issues relating to transgender people, and how police should best interact with transgender people in the community.

About halfway through the presentation, a 28-year veteran of the Plainfield Police Department spoke up, asking questions about a certain statistic presented -- that transgender people are 3.32 times more likely to experience police violence, compared to non-transgendered people.

A video recording of the training session provided by Plainfield captured the exchange.

"My life has never been part of police violence," the officer said. "Most of the people that I know have never been ... accused the police of violence (sic), so I guess I don't get where that statistic comes from."

At that time, Capt. Carri Weber interrupted, saying, "Because of your white male privilege, so you wouldn't know."

Weber's comment appeared to anger the officer and others.

One of the instructors tried to calm them down and get the room back together, when one of the officers said, "Chief, are you going to let her get away with that? Seriously? I'm asking a legitimate question and I'm getting [unintelligible] white privilege? Are you serious? I find that extremely offensive ... I will leave."

It is unclear if the officer left the room at that time.

The statistic used in the presentation came from a 2013 report from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, which used 2012 data from 15 anti violence programs in 16 states. Indiana was not one of the states.

On Nov. 10, the officer, who wasn't named in documents provided by the Town of Plainfield following a public records request, filed a complaint against Weber.

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Transgender awareness training session
http://fox59.com/2017/11/30/plainfield-police-captain-on-leave-after-making-comment-at-transgender-awareness-training/
PLAINFIELD, Ind. – A police captain in Plainfield is on paid administrative leave after making a comment at an awareness training.

According to a complaint, Captain Carri Weber made the comment during a discussion about transgender people and their likelihood of a negative interaction with law enforcement.

Documents allege Weber told someone questioning statistics in the presentation, “well, you wouldn’t understand with your white male privilege.”

The complainants call the comment derogatory, racist, sexist and bigoted.

This comes after Weber was suspended without pay for two weeks in August for violating the department’s alcohol policy.

She allegedly operated a car within eight hours of drinking alcohol.

Weber also stepped down from her rank of major following the incident.
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fucking eh

Posted December 5th by Kaot0
Kaot0

"My life has never been part of police violence," the officer said. "Most of the people that I know have never been ... accused the police of violence (sic), so I guess I don't get where that statistic comes from."

Maybe it comes from studies aimed at the GENERAL population, instead of solely at you and your experiences????

Posted December 5th by Louis De Pointe du Lac
Louis De Pointe du Lac
No love = No future

"the paramilitary"

yuck, this is so much worse than "these ducks" "infiltrating" the police.

"when one of the officers said, 'Chief, are you going to let her get away with that? Seriously? I'm asking a legitimate question and I'm getting [unintelligible] white privilege? Are you serious? I find that extremely offensive ... I will leave.'"

lol sounds like this little piggy's poor feelings got hurt

Posted December 5th by poptart!
poptart!
 

How does it happen? How does the paramilitary get infiltrated by these ducks?

Do you happen to mean cuck?

This really goes to show how conservatives are hooked up to their own particular outrage machine, but it's vastly more trivial.

Kaot0 has quickly established himself as one of the shittier members of the World forum.

Edited December 5th by Agis
Agis
 

lol sounds like this little piggy's poor feelings got hurt

He shouldn't have to be subjected to anti white, racist vitriol at the workplace.

Posted December 5th by #85
#85

ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer

Posted December 5th by Pirate_Ninja
Pirate_Ninja

It was a bad decision to formally discipline her for stating her (stupid) opinion. What she said is racist and sexist, but racists and sexists are capable of performing their job duties without being impeded by their racism and sexism, so disciplining her when it wasn't incumbent on them to demonstrate how her (wholly and unforgiveably awful) beliefs were interfering with her duties as am agent of the state reinforces a dangerous precedent.

Edited December 5th by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
 

I tried looking up the statistic in question to see if I could get some kind of clarification on what is meant by "police violence". What I was able to learn is that the figure comes from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP), which is an LGBT advocacy group. The number sees a fair amount of circulation, but context is never provided. Just what does it mean to say that trans people experience police violence at a rate of 3.32 times over the general population?

http://avp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/2012_NCAVP_HVReport_MR.pdf

The limits of Google research notwithstanding, there's not much of use to be learned even if we go to the horse's mouth. One of the many dubious statistics offered is that 26.8 of "survivors" (a totally neutral term that seems to describe all trans people that have negative interactions with law enforcement) report hostility from police. Again, what does that even mean? It reminds me that there are three kinds of lies, and that the most insidious of all are those that mask their intentions behind numbers. The nameless 28-year veteran had every right to express concern over the figures that he was expected to accept on faith.

Edited December 6th by Famov
Famov

ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer

Lmao this. Stupid question that almost seemed like willful ignorance. And that woman’s answer was equally dumb and just terrible optics for those of us who really want criminal justice reform.

What I will say is, anyone who doesn’t understand that American police generally take an overly combative, paranoid approach when dealing with the public (especially those with no social or financial power) or that the criminal “justice” system here is a cruel, damaging and ineffective joke, probably has some sort of social “privilege” for lack of a better term, or is at the very least sheltered and/or ignorant as to how the criminal justice system actually works in practice.

And frankly I find it appalling that supposed “libertarians” who just a few years ago claimed to oppose police brutality, injustice and the growing police state - people like Alex Jones in particular - are now screaming “Blue Lives Matter”, defending the police even when they are indefensible and ignoring the injustices that still occur. In making such a move (and in hanging from Trump’s nutsack in general), these people have revealed themselves to be spineless, unprincipled ideological conformists.




Posted December 6th by pacman
pacman
 

85, have you read Siege?

Posted December 6th by Racist
Racist
 

I checked it out, got through half of it but admittedly I didn't finish it. Maybe one of these days I will.

Have you read Rules of Radicals by Saul Alinsky?

Posted December 6th by #85
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