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Why did #85 get triggered by that statement?

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It's OK in the sense that the person does not necessarily have a moral flaw because they're LGBTQ. It's often not OK in the sense that the person's gender or sexual alignment clashes with their culture and/or biology, creating issues in their life, sometimes deep enough to drive them to suicide.

We live in a time and place where these things are still heavily stigmatized (by multiple sides) and are jam-packed with a lot of assumptions and subconscious biases. A LGBTQ person, unless raised in the fucking wilderness, is probably going to develop at least some kind of anxiety about their position in life.

This is, of course, not their fault in most cases.


Posted November 13th by nullfather
nullfather

Im generally okay with the LGBTQ movement. But there are aspects of it which make me roll my eyes.

A few weeks back I had a lesbian coworker admit she had feelings for me. And I was personally flabbergasted by the information as she would always preach how much she loved women. Is she straight? is she bi?

I have no idea.

Posted November 13th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

"A few weeks back I had a lesbian coworker admit she had feelings for me. And I was personally flabbergasted by the information as she would always preach how much she loved women. Is she straight? is she bi?"

i'm not a woman so i can say with any real authority but apparently sexuality is a lot more fluid for women

i've also always been into everything, so i don't really understand what it's like to only be into one gender

or maybe u look like a girl rofl i got u

Edited November 13th by poptart!
poptart!
 

A few weeks back I had a lesbian coworker admit she had feelings for me. And I was personally flabbergasted by the information as she would always preach how much she loved women. Is she straight? is she bi?


Something that a lot of people don't understand is that the human mind is malleable. People want to believe that they are solid, resistant, a definite thing when they are often underestimating their ability to adapt, learn and change. We are flexible, intellectual beings. When someone tries to use a sexual alignment as a prescriptive term instead of a descriptive term, take it with a grain of salt (and perhaps an iota of caution).

Posted November 13th by nullfather
nullfather

Should children be exposed to the message in your OP, Xhin?

Posted November 13th by #85
#85

Should children be exposed to the message in your OP, Xhin?


I don't think that they necessarily should. I think that if the culture that they are brought up in is free from the rampant neurosis regarding how LGBTQ persons are persecuted (from either side, meaning without the persecution and without the fetishization), that they will be much healthier if they do become LGBTQ. In other words, I don't think that they necessarily should be told this because it should go without saying. It doesn't go without saying, however, which turns the situation into a struggle and leads to more problems.

Edited November 13th by nullfather
nullfather

A few weeks back I had a lesbian coworker admit she had feelings for me. And I was personally flabbergasted by the information as she would always preach how much she loved women. Is she straight? is she bi?


Did she label herself a lesbian or have you just called her that? I'm bi myself but it's not like I always go around labeling myself to let everyone know, but since I am with a woman everyone thinks I'm straight pretty much.

Also I don't see anything wrong with children being exposed to it.

Edited November 13th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

Why did #85 get triggered by that statement?

Why does anyone?

People get scared and angry over what they don't understand.

Worse yet, he goes on 4chan where he can feed off of all sorts of white male insecurity, and develop an assortment of extreme and prejudiced views.

Kind of sad.

Posted November 14th by Agis
Agis
 

or maybe u look like a girl rofl i got u


Maybe. I have a beard though.

Did she label herself a lesbian or have you just called her that? I'm bi myself but it's not like I always go around labeling myself to let everyone know, but since I am with a woman everyone thinks I'm straight pretty much.

She been pretty adamant about it since I first met her. Hence why it threw me off.

(and perhaps an iota of caution).

Thats what Im doing. Shes a great girl, but something seems fishy about it.

Posted November 14th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

i'm not a woman so i can say with any real authority but apparently sexuality is a lot more fluid for women

I think they're just more open about the exceptions to their normal sexuality. A straight man having a gay crush is heavily stigmatized, and bisexual men are stigmatized in the gay community as well (less so, but still).

Posted November 14th by Xhin
Xhin
 

Should children be exposed to the message in your OP, Xhin?

Ideally we wouldn't have to put labels on people who are outside the norm and children would just be exposed to the idea that human culture is diverse. So if they see a kid with two daddies for the first time they wouldn't think anything of it -- wouldn't question it -- and wouldn't need to get told one thing or another about gay men.



Posted November 14th by Xhin
Xhin
 

A few weeks back I had a lesbian coworker admit she had feelings for me. And I was personally flabbergasted by the information as she would always preach how much she loved women. Is she straight? is she bi?

Bi obviously.


Speaking of trans..

Transracial though.. wtf. Just read the article though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/13/transracial-man-born-white-says-he-feels-filipino/858043001/

Edited November 14th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

It has been continuously advanced that race is a social construct, with more extreme believers doubling down and saying that there is not a single biological factor contributing to race. It was inevitable that "transracialism" would exist. It is probably just a way for white people in leftist strongholds to try and attain brown privilege.

Edited November 14th by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
 

I wish there was some way to abolish the term "triggered"

Posted November 17th by Kaot0
Kaot0

I wish there was some way to abolish the term "triggered"


Why? Because a certain subsection of shitty people abuse the term to mean "uncomfortable"? Even if we did remove that word, there would just be another word or phrase coined in its place. Stupid idea.

Edited November 17th by nullfather
nullfather

It's just a really lazy overly dramatic term which excites people to get defensive and jump on the bandwagon piloted by feminazi dumbasses.

Edited November 17th by Kaot0
Kaot0

It's just a really lazy overly dramatic term which excites people to get defensive and jump on the bandwagon piloted by feminazi dumbasses.


It's a term that gets used in lazy, dramatic ways. We should try to abolish the practice of abusing the term. The word itself is just a word.

Posted November 17th by nullfather
nullfather

i do think it's obnoxious to use "triggered" to mean "rustled jimmies"

do you not believe in PTSD triggers, kaot0?

Posted November 17th by poptart!
poptart!
 

There's no need to turn this into a "big debate" lol

just let me hate the term "triggered" plz

Posted November 17th by Kaot0
Kaot0

I believe "rustled jimmies" is vastly superior to "triggered" as the latter triggers my PTSD so much more and if I have to read that word one more time I'm calling the internet police.

Posted November 17th by Kaot0
Kaot0

just let me hate the term "triggered" plz


No.

Posted November 17th by nullfather
nullfather

I believe "rustled jimmies" is vastly superior to "triggered" as the latter triggers my PTSD so much more and if I have to read that word one more time I'm calling the internet police.

Whether purposefully ironic or not I got a chuckle out of it.

Posted November 17th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever
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