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Hello,

My name is Kaot0 and I identify as Christian

If you have any burning questions on your mind that you would like to discuss pertaining to Christianity, please let me know and I will be happy to answer them for you. If you feel that Christianity is rife with contradiction or is no different than any other major religion, then this is the thread for you to ask questions. I am open and willing to yield.

James 3:17

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.


May YAHWEH bless you and reveal Himself to you,

No, seriously
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How long have you been Christian?

Posted November 11th by nullfather
nullfather

11 months

Posted November 11th by Kaot0
Kaot0

How do you feel about the jews

Posted November 11th by A.o.h.
A.o.h.
 

...I think they need to realize that Jesus is their long awaited Messiah and they need to stop denying it.

The problem is that they feel their national identity is threatened if they were to embrace Christianity. But more are embracing Christianity as time goes on. They can be stiff-necked sometimes.

Posted November 12th by Kaot0
Kaot0

My name is Kaot0

I have a hard time believing that's really your name.

Oh yea can you really survive snakebites? Mark 16 17-18

FYI I sent a long box to you in the mail be sure to shake it up and open it right away! <_< >_>

Edited November 12th by Louis De Pointe du Lac
Louis De Pointe du Lac
No love = No future

How does one become a Christian?

Why would someone want to?

Posted November 12th by Xhin
Xhin
 

Oh yea can you really survive snakebites?


Probably.


How does one become a Christian?


There is quite an ongoing debate between Calvinism vs. Arminianism views of soteriology, [aka] election/predestination vs. partial depravity/saving self. The former [John 6:37] states that salvation is solely the will of God and if followed along its coldest rationale, essentially denies free will as playing any part in the equation, which leads to predetermined fatalism [re: John 6:44]. This is a huge issue for many in their attempts to understand Christianity, and understandably so. Yet paradoxically, Christians are not supposed to place any faith in their own works saving them. So we are completely dependent on Jesus regardless...

However, in the latter (in both instances actually) within Protestantism, the Christian is saved solely by grace through faith—Justification—in the shed blood of Jesus Christ, [Romans 4:1-8] as propitiation and remission for all sins, once for all time. Hebrews 10:10 [Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7]

If the faith is genuine, the old nature is circumcised and the new nature defaults back to obedience to God's laws [Romans 2:15], as written in the Bible, regardless of initial backsliding. I personally had a struggle with older sins of the flesh for quite a while but I have experienced much more self-control as time went on, a process known in Protestantism as —Sanctification.

[1 John 2:3-6]
3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands.
4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him:
6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.


Arminianism, however, places the onus on our own free will to come to God, and if we do not, then it is our own fault. If we decide to give in to the enticements of this fallen world and indulge in sensuality and love this world more than our spiritual lives, then we are ultimately responsible for our choice to splinter away from God's will.

The flesh wars against the Spirit and the Spirit wars against the flesh. [Galatians 5:17]
https://www.gotquestions.org/Calvinism-vs-Arminianism.html
It's really confusing, at the start anyway, but lately I've been starting to see the whole Revelation itself as panopticonic... if that makes sense...

Why would someone want to?


Freedom.

Edited November 12th by Kaot0
Kaot0

No how do you feel about the anti-Semitism expressed I'm the good book

Posted November 12th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Where speficially?

Posted November 12th by Kaot0
Kaot0

Ill see if I can find some examples tomorrow.

Posted November 12th by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

11 months


What was the inciting event or circumstances behind becoming Christian?

Posted November 12th by nullfather
nullfather

What was the inciting event or circumstances behind becoming Christian?


By the grace of God, I was allowed to witness the true state of my heart; which was depraved, prideful and abominable in the sight of God.

It was then that I prayed fervently in the name of Jesus for salvation. After that, my life began to change. I maintain that this phenomenon was and is still not of my own doing.

I thought I was a Christian before but I was deceiving myself. Now I am confident and I manage to read the bible every day. Jesus says to take His yoke upon me.

Matthew 11:28-30
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Luke 9:23
Then he said to them all: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.

John 3:30
He must become greater; I must become less."


Life is progressively getting better and I would encourage anyone who has never really attempted to experience Christianity the way Jesus intended to give it a serious go. I'd love to assist in any way I can. The funny thing about faith is that you kinda haveta have it in the first place in order to get more. However, like the parable of the mustard seed, a little faith is all that is needed and God will work through you to move mountains.

Posted November 12th by Kaot0
Kaot0

What was depraved and abominable about your heart?

Posted November 12th by nullfather
nullfather

Well, I was very self-centered. I did not acknowledge the truth of God's will and commands as outlined in the bible. I wanted to forge my own virtue so to speak. I wanted to impose my own views of moral subjectivity and contend them against God's standards, which are holy and perfect. This audacity, if left unchecked for long enough, pisses God off. Especially once you get older and God no longer views you as a child, but expects you to either acknowledge Him or continue drifting further from Him, who is the source of all life and good in the universe.

This is sinful pride that many succumb to in this life, unfortunately. Ultimately, God allowed me to realize that I cannot save myself. I cannot supersede the authority of God. Life is about more than being a "good" person and doing "good" things. It's about preparing oneself for meeting the maker.

So that's the journey I've been on lately. I have to check out now, but if you have any other questions please do not hesitate to ask.

Posted November 12th by Kaot0
Kaot0

Send me some money for a bible?

A good bible.

Posted November 13th by Agis
Agis
 

Yes, how did Noah manage to get all those animals into the Ark?

Posted November 13th by BananaBloke
BananaBloke
 

Agis

which version would you like?

I like NKJV, ESV, NASB, and I've even started warming up to NIV

Posted November 13th by Kaot0
Kaot0

BanananaBlock

2-by-2

Posted November 13th by Kaot0
Kaot0

For the record, the Noah story isn’t crazy cause God couldn’t do it. It’s crazy cause God chose THAT way to do it. To turn a wooden boat into a TARDIS then speed over 2 or more of millions of different species from all across the globe and then control their minds so they play nice with each other and making it so they either don’t have to eat or don’t have to crap just to drown most of the life on earth. All this when he could’ve just snapped his fingers and made the people he didn’t like vanish. Yea......

Posted November 13th by Louis De Pointe du Lac
Louis De Pointe du Lac
No love = No future

Do you believe the bible in its entirety? (like, is everything it says true and did it really happen?)

Edited November 13th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

do you believe mohamet flew to heaven on a winged horse?

Posted November 13th by Brandy
Brandy

How many fuck kids does a priest need to fuck if a fuck priest could fuck kids

Posted November 13th by BananaBloke
BananaBloke
 

Do you believe the bible in its entirety? (like, is everything it says true and did it really happen?)

Short answer: Yes. Example, I literally believe Jonah was a disobedient prophet who was swallowed by a whale and left there for 3 days or so before being spit out on dry land to preach to the heathens in Ninevah. If I can believe this story then I can certainly believe whatever other fanciful stories the Bible speaks about.

Its important to understand dispensations. I ascribe to the most basic dispensations of the bible:

The first 5 books of the Bible are known as Pentateuch (aka) Torah which the modern day Jews still identify as holding sacred meaning.

Then, the Bible moves into Historical books chronicling God's chosen tribe of Judah, lead out of slavery for 400 years by Moses in Exodus, and its leadership and guidance post death of Moses.

Then, the bible moves into Prophets who were sent to deliver messages about the Messiah. Jesus Christ came and fulfilled 300+ of the prophecies written/spoken of by the prophets of old, and these prophets were separated in time by hundreds of years in some cases.

Then you have Gospels (Matt, Mark, Luke, John) which chronicle the truiphant life and ministry of Jesus.

Then you have the epistles, 2/3 of the New Testament, written by Paul, God's chosen instrument to preach the good news of salvation through faith in Christ to the gentile world.

This is the grace covenant which we are currently under. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 , Romans 10:9-13 both preach the Gospel of salvation.

I feel that this grace covenant is coming to a close soon. Matthew 24 is apocalyptic in content. Matthew 24:14 states:

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."

^with the technology we currently have, the central message of the Bible has been spread throughout the world, to all nations.

Edited November 13th by Kaot0
Kaot0

do you believe mohamet flew to heaven on a winged horse?


No. If that's their claim to Jerusalem, then they are at odds with Jewish history.

@Bananabloke

Catholicism functions much like Paganism. I wouldn't even consider it a Christian denomination at all.



Posted November 13th by Kaot0
Kaot0

What makes you think that the bible is true?

Posted November 13th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

Experience.

Over this last year, whenever I consulted the Bible I was always able to find the remedy for what was ailing my conscience and persona.

Posted November 15th by Kaot0
Kaot0

"Over this last year, whenever I consulted the Bible I was always able to find the remedy for what was ailing my conscience and persona."

horoscopes can do the same thing

Posted November 15th by poptart!
poptart!
 

horoscopes can do the same thing


Im a libertarian

Posted November 15th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

So the reason why is because it felt good to trust it?

Posted November 15th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

So the reason why is because it felt good to trust it?


At the start, I suppose. It's kind of a blur. I am a different person now with a different outlook on life, and trying to remember everything about my former way of thinking is difficult. As a worldly seeker of truth prior, I was broken down by the conclusion that perhaps Bible was the only thing that could help me after all.

I do recall that when I was facing certain difficulties or blockages to my understanding, many, many times the biblical answer would find its way to me and I would then read it, meditate on it, discuss it online, and it would reformat a portion of my psyche, like a doctor's suture.

Another way of visualizing my spiritual rehabilitation via Bible is to picture a glass door that was hit with a rock of pride and now has thousands of little hairline fractures. Over time, internalizing the messages found in the Bible, studying and learning from others online and in person, picture those hairline fractures receding as though time were moving in the opposite direction.

You must be open to the advice it contains, though. This is vital. If you aren't willing to be open to truly lend yourself to what it says, at least for a little while, then you're never going to see how it can and will change you. When I sought the Christian outlook to many spiritual/theological/philosophical/ontalogical questions, I was encouraged by the little successes which I found (or) which found me, which then snowballed until the biblical inconsistencies encountered did not bother me as much. Later on down the line, even those got ironed out... It was a process and it required patience because it's not exactly you doing everything, God is leading you to certain answers at certain times. It's a walking in tandem sort of thing.

The problem is, if we aren't capable of recognizing just how futile and silly we creatures truly are in contrast to an almighty God, then we will never realize our need of Him. This is why Jesus says "blessed are the poor in Spirit" and why also Jesus speaks of how difficult it is for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Most often, those that are rich here have no need nor desire to understand their moral/spiritual shortcomings. Those that are poor (monetarily, homely, sorrowful, indebted, feeble, victimized) are capable of realizing their deep need of something, someone, anyone. God is one who cares for those people more than they can imagine, because they suffer just as Jesus did. Jesus was (supremely) innocent, and yet suffered here under the laws of man.

In the Garden of Eden, the prototypical man and woman desired to take it upon themselves to define Good and Evil on their own terms. This means that they contended with God's definition of Good and Evil. The root of such transgression is PRIDE, the ultimate sin.



When I started getting into it, I was asking a whole bunch of questions seeking the Christian perspective on things. One question I had was about IDOLATRY. When I looked up the biblical answer to what this was, I found it to be very rich and deep. This is a good site btw
https://www.gotquestions.org/idolatry-modern.html



Posted Thursday by Kaot0
Kaot0

what do you think about james 5?

as a new christian, do you have any insight into why people who convert to christianity later in life are almost always insufferable pricks? (as opposed to people who were raised as and remained christians for their entire lives and are much quieter about it)

Posted Friday by poptart!
poptart!
 

as a new christian, do you have any insight into why people who convert to christianity later in life are almost always insufferable pricks? (as opposed to people who were raised as and remained christians for their entire lives and are much quieter about it)


That's pretty easy to figure out. People who were raised Christian just think of that as the way things are and it doesn't need to be spouted at every opportunity. People that convert after reaching the age of reason are generally doing it for some ideological reason.

Posted Friday by nullfather
nullfather

i was being snarky with that one. born-again christians have treated me worse than anyone i've ever met, and kaot0 is exuding those zealot vibes

Posted Friday by poptart!
poptart!
 

It was pretty clearly a leading question. I just want to get it established that Kaot0 reeks of insecurity lately.

Even I wasn't that bad when I was a Satanist.

Posted Friday by nullfather
nullfather

as a new christian, do you have any insight into why people who convert to christianity later in life are almost always insufferable pricks? (as opposed to people who were raised as and remained christians for their entire lives and are much quieter about it)

As a rule converts in any belief tend to be more militant than veterans of said belief. Sort of like a kid with a new toy that wants to show it off to everyone.

Posted Friday by Louis De Pointe du Lac
Louis De Pointe du Lac
No love = No future

Just answering questions guys. I'm actually eager to talk about my faith and clear up misconceptions others may have.

@Poptart!

What do you think about James 5?

You can group me in with those insufferable pricks if you like, that's like, your opinion and I'm sorry for triggering you.





Posted Friday by Kaot0
Kaot0

no, seriously, what do you think of james 5? a lot of leftists like to mention that part of the bible since it trashes rich men. what's your take? is there any context that they're missing?

Edited Friday by poptart!
poptart!
 

"You can group me in with those insufferable pricks if you like,"

ok i will then lmao

Posted Friday by poptart!
poptart!
 

James 5:1-6 is talking specifically about oppressive rich people that take advantage of those employed under them, cheating the lowly out of fair wages. It mentions that God is offended by the iniquity of the rulers of this world and that His wrath is upon them, in one form or another.

Just picture a bunch of rich white men oppressing you or another marginalized/disabled group, with their wealth and influence, and then picture God being angry at said bunch. Now connect the dots here and realize how compatible you are with Christianity after all! As a minority who is obviously oppressed, God loves you!

James 5:7-12 goes on to exhort the reader unto patience and long-suffering in the face of the aforementioned tyranny. 1 Peter 1:7 speaks also of Faith being refined in the fires of trial and heartship here on earth, and that the end product of an intact Faith is far more valuable than gold and silver to God.

James 5:13-20 is meant to encourage us [Christians] to build each other up and persevere.

What is your take on James 5?







Edited Friday by Kaot0
Kaot0

How is the demiurge treating you?

Posted Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
The machiavellian menace

I don't do the Gnosticism thing, Knok

Posted Monday by Kaot0
Kaot0

Why not? It's great. We also have cookies.

Posted Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
The machiavellian menace

"What is your take on James 5?"

basically the same as yours

Posted Monday by poptart!
poptart!
 

have you read paradise lost?

Posted Monday by poptart!
poptart!
 

Why not? It's great. We also have cookies.


...what kind of cookies...

@Poptart!
I have not, but I need to. Actually, if you have any other suggestions for classic lit I'd appreciate it.



Posted Monday by Kaot0
Kaot0

...what kind of cookies...


Iced oatmeal :^)

Posted Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
The machiavellian menace

I do actually have a legitimate question though. It's not a question that I think I don't have the answer to though formerly being a Christian myself, but what do you think of Christians who try to impose their will onto others? I mean, there's little getting around that's what some are trying to do. For example, (and sorry for getting controversial with this but I'm not feeling very creative right now) the kinds that think gay marriage should still be illegal.

Posted Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
The machiavellian menace

Iced oatmeal


Hook it up.

but what do you think of Christians who try to impose their will onto others? I mean, there's little getting around that's what some are trying to do. For example, (and sorry for getting controversial with this but I'm not feeling very creative right now) the kinds that think gay marriage should still be illegal.


Right, I was waiting for someone to ask this. It's an intricate question. I don't think we (or anyone) should impose our will upon others as this violates their autonomy, which is their God-given free agency. Jesus himself never forced anyone to follow him, nor did he force anyone to do anything against their will, for that matter; his ministry was the exact opposite.

So when you see fundamentalists picketing funerals and holding up signs that are extremely offensive to the gay community (which is comprised of human beings) and contemptible and inhumane to humanity period, this is directly contrary to what Christ intended our ministries to be in the world. How on earth can these people believe they are representing Jesus?

(Matthew 7:21-23...And I will say to them, "I never knew you, depart from me you who practice lawlessness"...)

(Matthew 6:1...“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven...)

I would actually go as far as to argue that the majority of people who claim to be Christian are not, because they go ahead without Christ (i.e. without comprehensive Bible studying) leading to error, because they embellish the Word at their own capriciousness. I am now of the strong opinion that if one wants to claim the label of Christian, there must be some spark of motivation to actually read the Bible, and some actually learning to show for it.

(2 John 9...Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teachings of Christ does not have God;)

(2 Timothy 2:11-16...study to shew thyself approved, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth...)

Furthermore, it is not at all the labor of man that draws another soul to Christ, nor can we secure them; this is entirely the work of the Holy Spirit. We that are brave enough to wear our faith on our sleeve and openly speak about Jesus when the situation presents itself are deeply indebted to God that He has permitted us to play a small role in leading another to Himself. God works through servants and circumstances, through the weakest vessels and in mysterious ways.

(2 Corinthians 12:9-10...“My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me...For when I am weak, then I am strong.)

In fact, it is the highest honor of the creature to be used to fulfill the will of its creator. There is no greater purpose, to my knowledge, at this time, that I can think of, than to be useful in some way to my God, Yahweh. We are not saved by good works, we are saved for them, and all the good which we do in His name will, at the time of His revealing, serve to glorify Him and His children.

(Romans 6:8...Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.)

(Romans 8:23...Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies...)

(Romans 13:14...Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh.)

(2 Corinthians 5:4...For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.)

(Galatians 3:26-27...So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ...)





I would recommend all of 1 John's chapters to anyone interested in reading a bit of the Bible...

I mean... a bit more than I've tricked you into reading already >;)

Inb4cherrypickingnicersections

P.S. also Paul's epistle to the Romans following 1 John

Edited Monday by Kaot0
Kaot0

Catholicism functions much like Paganism. I wouldn't even consider it a Christian denomination at all.


Even though the belief of Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior and is central to their religious faith? Could you elaborate on why it functions like paganism and you wouldn't consider it a Christian denomination?

Posted Monday by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

born-again christians have treated me worse than anyone i've ever met,

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Posted Yesterday Afternoon by #85
#85

"I have not, but I need to. Actually, if you have any other suggestions for classic lit I'd appreciate it."

you really should. it blew my mind as an atheist - i'm sure it would have an even greater effect on a christian.

(a lot of people think that paradise lost portrays satan sympathetically, but milton was deliberately drawig negative comparisons to cromwell)

i'll try to think of some more recommendations.

Posted Yesterday Evening by poptart!
poptart!
 

wrt #85:

i'm not whining, hung up on it or looking for sympathy. just pointing out that born-again christians can be some of the cruelest pieces of shit out there (aside from nazi fucks like you)

Posted Yesterday Evening by poptart!
poptart!
 

One of my closest friends was raised in a born again family and when I finally met her parents, they seemed very quiet and unamused by most things...but that is likely due to personality. Also, N = 1.

Posted Yesterday Evening by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy

Also, I like how poptart inherently triggers 85 to the point where he seems to scour threads for things that he says.

Posted Yesterday Evening by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy

Even though the belief of Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior and is central to their religious faith? Could you elaborate on why it functions like paganism and you wouldn't consider it a Christian denomination?


Catholics do proclaim Jesus Christ as their eminent central figure of worship as do we Protestants, but their worship is quite different in practice.

Catholicism heavily promotes saint intercession which is contrary to how the Bible instructs us to commune with our heavenly Father. Jesus is our intercessor, and so there is no need for Christians to pray to St. Francis of Assisi to pray to Jesus for us. There is no need to pray to St. Patrick to pray to the body of Christ on our behalf. Saint veneration is akin to polytheism; all who have saving faith are true saints.

(John 14:6...Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me...)

(1 Timothy 2:5...For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus...)

(1 John 2:1...My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One...)

(Hebrews 7:24-26...But because Jesus lives forever, He has a permanent priesthood. Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them...Such a high priest truly befits us—One who is holy, innocent, undefiled, set apart from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.…)

Catholicism's glorification of Mary is reminiscent of paganism's masc/fem duality. They are promoting her as "Queen of Heaven" which is a smattering of dogma with zero scriptural backing. Catholics are heavily encouraged to pray to Mary even over canonized saints exalting her further and taking away prayer that should rightly be directed to Jesus, as shown in the above verses.

The Catholic trinket, Rosary, pays far deeper homage to Mary than to Christ, and a Catholic will pray 50 Hail Mary's in one go around. This is not how we're instructed to pray.

(Matthew 6:7...And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard...)

There is no reason to direct prayer to any other than Jesus, as He is the perfect intercessor and in him is no sin.

(1 John 3:5...But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin...)

(1 Peter 2:22-23...He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in His mouth.” When they heaped abuse on Him, He did not retaliate; when He suffered, He made no threats, but entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly...)

Here's a short list of rituals and assorted dogma for which I have discovered zero scriptural basis. Catholicism is the inverse of Protestantism in so many ways, and I believe it has led many away from following Christ correctly; through the divinely inspired words in the Bible.

Infant baptism, purgatory, confession to human priest, saint veneration, everything in the Apocrypha, druidic worship, physical idols, calling priests "father" etc...

Catholicism has been doing things like this for hundreds of years.

Posted Yesterday Evening by Kaot0
Kaot0

Also I need to clear up some misconceptions about "born-again"

Anyone can say they are "born-again" without any legitimacy to the claim, just as I could say I'm a sea manatee and not actually be a sea manatee. So if poptart! has been routinely treated is such a terrible manner by those claiming to be born-again then I'd really questions the legitimacy of their claims, as acting hyper-judgmental toward others is so contrary to my own experiences, which is that I was brought so low I was crying on-and-off for days at the way I had been existing. Gospel of John 3:8 proves that we cannot be born-again on our own, we must be acted upon.

(John 3:8...The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”)

John 3:1-8

1 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.
6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

Selah ;)

Edited Yesterday Evening by Kaot0
Kaot0

Also, N = 1.


Number #1?

Posted Yesterday Evening by Kaot0
Kaot0

i just thought of another question! how have you changed your behavior since you've converted to christianity? is there anything that you do differently (aside from quoting the bible all the time) or stopped doing?

Posted Yesterday Evening by poptart!
poptart!
 

It's a dumb stats joke. N is typically designated as the number of people in your sample. The smaller N is, the less generalizable your findings are to an entire population. In this context, I only interacted with one family of born again Christians, and therefore it's very unlikely that they generalize to all such families.

Posted Yesterday Evening by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy

Why would someone want to?

Just because you don't want to be religious does not mean you get to assert that nobody wants to.

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