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We're gonna need a bigger boat.

All right. I wasn't gonna go on the opening weekend, but I had spare time tonight. Figured I'd get out of the house.

Kinda just throwing out thoughts at random here:

- Initially I had mixed feelings because I still don't really like a Thor that jokes...but the jokes were actually really good and I kept laughing because they were funny. So, that was strange to be laughing while thinking, "This isn't really Thor, though." It's a credit to Taika Waititi's ability as a comedic director to go down a direction I didn't really like at first, but made me laugh anyway.

- Once I sort of settled in, it is a fun and funny film. This is one that I'll probably enjoy watching again (which is kind of a big deal for a Thor film).

- I loved the cast. They all did so great. Taika Waititi as Korg might easily be the best comic relief character in any comic book movie so far. Excellent performances, even from Cate Blanchett who might still kind of fit your typical generic Marvel villain role, but is visually one of the more interesting ones.

- Veeeeeery happy with the score! I've been a downer on how Marvel scores just all sound the same and don't stand out. This time, they brought in Mark Mothersbaugh, and he provides the most unique-sounding score of the entire Marvel brand so far. Never thought I'd say this about a Marvel film, but it was really good!

- The overall structure is pretty generic, but I appreciate Waititi's adherence to smaller scope structural things. Made it feel like someone was actually paying attention while making it.

- Pretty good action, even if humanoid CGI figures jumping around still looks clunky.

- Really liked the Skurge B-plot. And also liked Loki's arc.

- Wasn't crazy about the whole Volstagg/Hogan/Fandral stuff. I know they've basically been minor characters beyond, like, 30 minutes in the first film, but I think they deserved a little more than what they got.

- Appreciated what it ultimately brought to the Thor status quo.

Easily the best Thor movie (which doesn't say much). But it also was maybe the funniest one, in my opinion. I'm *still* not crazy about a Thor that cracks wise, but at the same time, the comedy is actually really good, and when they need him to be Thor-like, he is. Overall, I think this goes up there as one of the most unique and complete Marvel films.

I really, really, really can't wait until the Stan Lee cameos stop, though...

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i definitely appreciated the tone and the colorfulness of it all. it reminded me of walt simonson's thor comics, which are my favorite thor comics because they don't take themselves so seriously. the one everyone always raves about with the skull guy who kills gods was okay, but it felt way too melodramatic and i'd hate to watch a movie like that.

"I really, really, really can't wait until the Stan Lee cameos stop, though..."

aww man you know what that means though

Edited November 6th by poptart!
poptart!
 

What's wrong with the Stan Lee cameos?


Nice to hear it's good. Will watch it eventually.

Posted November 6th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Veeeeeery happy with the score! I've been a downer on how Marvel scores just all sound the same and don't stand out. This time, they brought in Mark Mothersbaugh, and he provides the most unique-sounding score of the entire Marvel brand so far. Never thought I'd say this about a Marvel film, but it was really good!


Did you also happen to notice that he brought back the Thor leitmotif from the first movie? Brought a smile to my face when I heard it.

Posted November 6th by Moonray
Moonray
 

Yeeeeah...I know. I'm not looking forward to him passing, but his cameos get more disruptive by the feature it seems. I started hating them when they started really forcing them.


I forgot to mention how much I appreciated that there was only, like, one scene on Earth. Everything else was on Asgard or Sakaar. And while I was disappointed that they didn't work in Beta Ray Bill (this would have been the perfect opportunity for it), they did give him a little nod with the monument faces on the side of Grandmaster's building.


I get why people like goofy, campy Thor stuff. I think for me, I came up in comics at a pretty cool time for Thor. J. Michael Stracynzki had a great run in the aftermath of Ragnarok getting re-set (Asgardians trying to make a new home on Earth would make for a really interesting movie or show right now, to be honest. Kind of poignant.) And then Matt Fraction had an awesome mini-series. Can't remember if it had a title. I want to say "Ages of Thunder"? (It's that or "God of Thunder." One of those is a Jason Aaron run with Esad Ribic that was also pretty good.) So the Thor comics I started off with were relatively serious, with comedy worked in with specific relief characters. And they were great!

Posted November 6th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

disruptive by feature

I havent encoutnered that yet.

Posted November 6th by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

You know I didn’t think I would ever say this...

I was disappointed by Thor.

Posted November 6th by Helius
Helius

Was it that it was too jokey, or, not enough Ragnarok, or something else?



Something I was actually just thinking about, that I didn't really realize initially with my first impressions, but the more I think about the film:



Posted November 10th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

I liked it, although I kind of expected to, since Taika Waititi is one of my favourite working directors at the moment (Hunt For The Wilderpeople being one of my favourite movies in the last 5 years). I appreciate them letting it be an amalgamation of his and Marvel's vision, and not just a director being weighed down by a set of strict rules and guidelines. It does come at the expense of making Thor almost too jokey, but unlike Guardians 2, the majority of the humour actually lands, and it doesn't come at the expense of the villain. I think it helps that Hemsworth is a surprisingly good comedic actor, and Taika's quintessential Maori humour was refreshing (especially as Korg; audience got the biggest laughs out of him).

While I liked Cate Blanchett well enough (despite limited screen time), I feel like the movie would've been so much better if it just centered around Sakaar, with Jeff Goldblum as the main antagonist. Everything about that storyline was fun and weird, and while the Asgard stuff wasn't bad, I never really looked forward to them cutting back to it. Would've much preferred the focus be on the battle arena, interacting and fighting weird aliens, and hatching a plan to escape and defeat the Grandmaster.

And yeah, it's amazing how much personality a soundtrack that wants to be heard can bring to the table. Kudos to Marvel (or at least, Taika) for using more than just licensed music to elevate each scene.

Definitely one of the better MCU movies, in my opinion.

On the credits scene:



Posted November 10th by Orion Nebula
Orion Nebula
 

Also forgot to mention, unlike Civil War, you actually feel like things have changed after Ragnarok. Yay progress!

Posted November 10th by Orion Nebula
Orion Nebula
 

Uh it definitely felt like things had changed with covil war.


Half of the avengers now being public enemy number one for instance.

Posted November 10th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

The problem, though, is that we haven't seen any real consequence of being "public enemy number one" after Civil War yet. That was followed up with Dr. Strange, of which Civil War had no impact on that. That was then followed by Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, which Civil War had no impact on. That was followed up by Spider-man: Homecoming, in which Civil War only comes up for some gags or sort of gets referenced, but has no actual impact on Spider-man or the central story. And now we've got Thor Ragnarok, of which that had no impact on. The next film we'll get is Black Panther, in which I suspect it'll be that thing of a few references, but having no impact on it.

So if there was an impact with Civil War, it is pretty exclusive to television.

I'm with Orion on this that the status quo feels fundamentally shifted by the end of Ragnarok, which, being called Ragnarok, you'd hope.





I don't disagree that Thor comes off a bit too jokey, but I eventually settled into it because A) Chris Hemsworth is a great comedic actor and B) most of the jokes were actually pretty great and funny. Taika Waititi was perfect, as always. (I went home to re-watch the funeral scene from Hunt for the Wilderpeople.) I love that he brought the shake weight into a scene! Him as Korg was hilarious. "Piss off, ghost!" I've been going down the internet rabbit hole of watching interviews with him. He's so funny, but also a bit Robin Williams-esque in that he can go so far off the rails for a joke that he doesn't answer any questions, really.

I kind of felt a bit like the jokey nature is a fair direction to take it. We've had two serious Thor movies, and they just don't seem to totally work. They clearly had influence from campy sci-fi Flash Gordon-esque stuff. Super serious doesn't really work for a prolonged period of time.



No Lady Sif, for some reason...

Posted November 10th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

Tv


Yep.

Posted November 10th by S.o.h.
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