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What do you mean by feudal weapons? Like swords? Bows? Crossbows?

Posted October 29th by King Frog
King Frog

Iron fan, short staffs, bow staff, nunchucks, quandao, and kamas.

I’ve been required to learn them in my martial arts classes.
I’ll be required to learn some others later.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

His martial arts excuse is cover for the fact that he is arming his cats and turning them into a trained fighting force.

Posted October 29th by Moonray
Moonray
 

Ah, the 鉄線. I used to carry one before becoming more comfy with knives (especially karambit). It was bulky, got in the way, and the number of times it fell in mud when i tried to sneak up on someone and scare them with it (the nylon ones, man).

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

What's a 鉄線?

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

His martial arts excuse is cover for the fact that he is arming his cats and turning them into a trained fighting force.


*drops a cat-sized sword into a drawer and kicks it closed* I surely don't know what you're talking about...

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

Oh wow, i wrote it wrong. XD

鉄扇

鉄 - iron/steel
扇 - Fan



鉄 - iron/steel
線 - lines



Somehow this thing as well:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%86%E3%83%83%E3%82%BB%E3%83%B3


Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

Ah, cool. Yeah, they are unexpectedly bulky.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8



Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I don't think I'll get to learn the karambit. Honestly though, I prefer the non-weapons styles anyway.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

What martial arts are you doing?

Posted October 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Currently, shaolin kung-fu.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

I don't think I'll get to learn the karambit. Honestly though, I prefer the non-weapons styles anyway.


All styles have weapons, it's just some styles forgot what theirs were. Weapons are used for gaining an advantage, especially in life or death situations. As such, those really long blades are impractical short of a zombie apocalypse. The 鉄扇 is very practical today, especially for non-lethal takedowns. Sash whips are particularly useful for non-lethal as well. Karambit is probably the least lethal knife, because that back-side is edgeless and is great for trapping.

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

Nah, there's a whole list of "empty hand styles."

Your assessment of the modern practicality of those weapons is probably accurate. I don't think much about it myself. I'm not gonna carry weapons around.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

Nah, there's a whole list of "empty hand styles."


Maybe 合気道 (aikidou), but it has it's roots in styles that have weapons.

Your assessment of the modern practicality of those weapons is probably accurate. I don't think much about it myself. I'm not gonna carry weapons around.


You don't carry weapons, you carry tools. You know when you buy stuff at walmart and have to wait until you get home to open it, even if you need it now? Yeah, knife. Cold? Sash whip (scarf). Hot? 鉄扇. Glove and ball are essential for keeping a bat in your car. The list goes on.

Otherwise, it's all very illegal if it's not a gun. Guns are the only legal weapons in most western countries.

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

Haha aikido isn't a "style," it's like an entire school. I'm talking about kung-fu styles like 108 Lohan, Drunken Fist, Hua Mountain, etc.

But ok, point taken about the "weapons" I carry.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

The more you learn, the more your school and style turn out to be the same thing. Druken Fist, though, that has some good stuff in there, and not what people first imagine.

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I haven't been able to learn Drunken Fist yet myself, but I'll get to eventually!

What martial arts have you practiced, Kohlrak?

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

JKDC "Dirty boxing"

Haven't been doing it for long, though. Getting alot of Muay Thai mixed in it, though.

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I have never heard of JKDC "Dirty boxing." How did you get into it?

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

Be back later.

Posted October 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

One of the few things available around here.

JKDC - Jeet Kune Do Concepts

To understand it, you have to know the history of JKD. Basically, Li Jun Fan (Bruce Lee) was sent to america by his instructor Yipman, to bring Wing Chun to the west. Frankly, Lee sucked at his art, and they didn't like us much, which was why he was sent. But, Bruce was able to kick the ever loving crap out of pretty much everyone he came across. Lee wasn't stupid, he knew he sucked and that his style really wasn't the best, so he sought out to figure out why.

He concluded that everyone stuck too closely to traditionalism, which meant that everyone always fought the same way, against people of the same arts, and that he was able to win because he was able to do things that the americans never seen before (I have a really good video if you'd like to demonstrate this first hand when a 空手 [karate] practitioner goes up against a silat fighter, and looses his mind so they had to change the rules of the fight mid fight 'cause the silat fighter was mopping the floor with him). So, he came up with JKD, which, in a nutshell, is that everyone's different, so we should adopt styles (and even make our own) that work for our own body mechanics, rather than some dead guy's mechanics from hundreds or thousands of years ago. However, he knew one still must have a "base" from which to start and then modify to fit you. For this, he taught the style he came up with for himself: Jun Fan Gung Fu, which was named after himself + "kung fu."

The problem comes in with Bruce Lee getting rather popular, everyone and their brother tried to say they studied under Bruce to advertise their McDojos. Lee was then forced to basically remove all but 3 certifications that he gave out. Out of the 3 instructors, 2 of which (who's names escape me) were certified in Jun Fan Gung Fu, and Dan Inosanto, who was the only one who studied with him in private, was certified in Jeet Kune Do. Now, as you can tell from all the video games, "Jeet Kune Do" and "Jun Fan Gung Fu" have became synonmyous, so Dan Inosanto (continuing after Lee since he passed way) added "concepts" to the name.

Dan Inosanto is philipino, so wanting to stick to his roots he mixed Jun Fan Gung Fu with philiphino and malaysian styles such as Eskrima, Silat, Panantukan, Dumog, Kali, Muay Thai, etc. Lacking a better name for advertisement purposes, alot of JKDC instructors call this "dirty boxing" since it's boxing without the takedowns and kicks taken out of it.

And, yes, as you can imagine, this is the source of the "wing chun vs boxing" BS you see all over youtube. Moreover, the Jun Fan Gung Fu practitioners hate JKDC, even though the forefathers of the two are still best friends and don't get the hate.

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

im surprise nunchaku are still legal

Posted October 29th by Brandy
Brandy

Supposedly they are, but they aren't illegal to have. They're illegal to carry. US weapon laws make weapons illegal to carry, but not to own. There's a number of reasons for this, one of which being it has alot to do with ethnic dances (at least, that's the excuse the Filipinos always use XD).

Posted October 29th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I used to carry one before becoming more comfy with knives (especially karambit).


I have a karambit for EDC. A decently-designed classic one, not one of the absurd oversized Counter-Strike novelties that a lot of other people have.

Edited October 30th by nullfather
nullfather

For EDC i feel my non-folder (the one i'm carrying right now) is a bit bulky. At the same time, when i think self-defense, I like the ability to get some sort of extension to make up for the reverse grip. I know it's not going to do alot of damage when using that extented grip, but the idea of self defense is to get someone to stop, not to kill them, and making people bleed helps them stop, especially if you can get them to believe a little scratch has mortally wounded them.

Posted October 30th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I have to ask...Do you guys know how to use a knife for self defense? Y'all do know no one's wins in a knife fight right?

I carry a Kershaw pocket knife more for everyday use than self defense.

Posted October 30th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I have to ask...Do you guys know how to use a knife for self defense? Y'all do know no one's wins in a knife fight right?


The Philippines would like to have a word with you.

I carry a Kershaw pocket knife more for everyday use than self defense.


I have a Kershaw as well. They're high quality, but I don't like their designs. My Kershaw i keep for looks, because it's so nice and smooth. I wouldn't dare use it for real, though. Moreover, I hate liner locks (yes, i know the one knife i have in the pic has a liner lock).

Posted October 30th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

The Philippines would like to have a word with you.


what about the philippines

All im saying is that the loser of a knife fight dies in the streets, the winner dies in the hospital.

Posted October 30th by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

Mine was a gift from my uncle a few years back. they apparently have a life time warranty might trade it in soon.

Posted October 30th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

The Philippines would like to have a word with you.

What? For all intents and purposes, SOH is right.

Get a friend who's willing to fight you. Both of you put on cheap white shirts. One person holds a blue sharpie. The other, a red. Pretend they are knives. Have at it. You're both going to be "bleeding" by the end. Sometimes you'll even be bleeding from your own blade.

Posted October 30th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

If that's the case, you don't know how to knife fight. Anyone can use a knife to get the other guy. It takes actual practice, skill, and training to fight proper with the knife.

Case in point, your "bleeding" you and your friends will do is primarily going to be on the body. No one should get close enough for body shots at any point.

That said, if someone does get close enough, you have to change their minds. Most cuts and stabs you won't feel while adrenaline is pumping. There are spots that you invariably feel and will deter you, even if not hit by a knife. Learn these spots.

Posted October 30th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I've never actually tried that exercise... I don't feel like I need a demonstration to knock my confidence down to a more realistic level.

I am terrified of what would happen to me in an actual fight and have every intention of avoiding them.

Edited October 30th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

True, but the more you don't fight, the more you should. Spar, spar, and more sparing. As they say, everyone's a blackbelt until they get punched in the face. Sparing helps this.

Posted October 30th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

everyone's a blackbelt until they get punched in the face.

Haha I like that. :) Definitely true in my case.

Posted October 30th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
formerly KM8

lol

Posted October 30th by poptart!
poptart!
 

Insert "watch out we have a bad ass over here meme" here

I'm no expert but I dont think you'll be walking away from a knife fight unscathed.

But hey more power to you

Posted October 30th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Haha I like that. :) Definitely true in my case.


Everyone's. It's an axiom. Only way to fix that is getting in realistic scenarios to help you not only deal with the adrenaline issues, but also help you get used to dealing with getting hit.

I'm no expert but I dont think you'll be walking away from a knife fight unscathed.


You won't, but what matters is where you do get cut. Is it going to be meaty or boney? Are you going to bleed to death, or is it little more than a scratch at the end of the day.

But the most important thing people forget about weapons (which is important to knives more than any other weapon, since it affects your preferred grip) is that the other person may not have a knife, but another weapon. The point of weapons is to not have a fair, 50-50 fight. If you wanted the fight to be fair, you wouldn't use weapons.

Posted October 30th by Kohlrak
Kohlrak

I have to ask...Do you guys know how to use a knife for self defense? Y'all do know no one's wins in a knife fight right?


Condescending cliches aside, your concern is heartwarming.


Posted October 31st by nullfather
nullfather

Not as warm as the blood on my knife

Posted October 31st by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

"I carry a Kershaw pocket knife more for everyday use than self defense. "

I carry a leatherman multipurpose tool. I can cut you and then fix you up to be robocop.

you can thank me later.

Posted October 31st by Q
Q
 

Might want to do something about that. Blood rusts blades bad.

Posted October 31st by Kohlrak
Kohlrak
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