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Oakland Warriors unanimously decline White House visit after winning NBA Finals last night
Posted: Posted June 13th by ShadowFox08

Lol, this is just like nearly half the patriots declining to visit white house after they won the super bowl. The warriors did visit after they won 2015 NBA championships when Obama was president though.

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Whoops accidentally reported myself when trying to edit in mobile mode. Was just trying to add the news link

Posted June 13th by ShadowFox08


Posted June 13th by S.O.H.

My bad, only 6 patriots declined to visit white house after winning superbowl, which isn't half the team. Around 30 something showed up, iirc..

Posted June 13th by ShadowFox08

They visited Hillary instead so she could ask for pointers on how to properly fix the results of a finals series.

Posted June 13th by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

Great. Saves him from having to send an invite.

Posted June 13th by #85

Saw the story, and thought, "neat," and immediately stopped caring about. Just the same as I saw that story about the Patriots and thought, "I don't care about this."

But the Warriors would be a good example for Democrats to follow! The Warriors built one of the greatest teams in the history of the game and were incredibly fun for fans to watch and follow, even if many grumbled about the "lack of competition" in the playoffs. The Democrats, conversely, built a shit team to run a shit campaign that energized only half the party itself, never mind so few outside it. Elections aren't too unlike sports in that way: to be successful, you need a product people like and a team that works well together.

Posted June 13th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

On another note. I hate superteams...but now that the Warriors have forced San Antonio's hand I cannot wait until Chris Paul joins the Spurs...

Posted June 13th by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom

Oakland? I'm shocked.

Posted June 13th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

Always kind of funny to me the complaints about super teams in a sport that has long been privy to incredibly long lasting dynasties and teams that dominate the league for years and years. I suspect the Warriors run won't even be as long as the '90s Bulls when it's all over. I'd also prefer a smaller league with more of these "super teams" than a bigger league where talent is more spread out, so there are fewer good teams than bad ones in general. I'd love to see the Spurs get Chris Paul!

Posted June 13th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

Superteams are ruining basketball for me. Get ready for the same finals matchup for another 3 years

Posted June 13th by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy

Well in terms of championships, the warriors have won a handful of times(4 or 5?). They lost year against the cavs, but won in 2015. Before 2015, their last win was in the 70s IIRC. The cavs on the other hand won championships for the first time last year and have been emergent like the warriors in the last recent years.

Warriors and Cavs right now at least aren't like the typical NFL teams that always win every year(Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Ravens, etc).

Posted June 14th by ShadowFox08

My bad, only 6 patriots declined to visit white house after winning superbowl, which isn't half the team. Around 30 something showed up, iirc..

It was 34 that showed up, which means that 17 players didn't attend, which was more players that declined than when they won under Obama, but about the same number as when they won in '04 under Bush.

Still completely irrelevant in general, but also we don't know every player's reason for not attending. We know some, like Martellus Bennett and LaGarrette Blount did so for political reasons. Others could have just as easily declined because of prior engagements or family obligations, or a variety of other personal reasons why someone might not want to travel to DC at a random time.

There have been no shortages of legitimate reasons to criticize the President. Picking the stupidest, most insignificant stuff is just a waste of time and energy.

Edited June 14th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

Superteams are ruining basketball for me. Get ready for the same finals matchup for another 3 years

Have you ever liked pro-basketball, then? I say this because when you look at the history of the league, it's always been the same teams winning.

Going back to 1950 (so 67 years), the Celtics have won 17 (including a stretch wherein they won the Eastern Conference 12 out of 13 years), the Lakers have won 15 (including a stretch where they won 9 Western Conference titles in the span of 12 years, and three-peated on two separate occasions), the Bulls won 6 (three-peating twice as well), the Spurs won 6. That means of all the 67 seasons, FOUR TEAMS have won 44 titles (65.7%)!

We've had identical finals in consecutive years on 13 separate occasions. There are 14 teams that have never won a title (which is a little bit more than NFL teams that haven't won a Super Bowl). There are 7 teams that have never even been to the NBA Finals (which is almost twice as many NFL teams that have never been to the Super Bowl).

Not to mention, the league has long been comprised of super teams. You've got the Celtics with Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Danny Ainge, Robert Parish, Bill Walton. You've got the Lakers with Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Byron Scott, and James Worthy. You've also got a Lakers team with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Ron Harper, Derek Fisher, Brian Shaw, and Robert Horry. Or those few years where the Celtics had Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Rajon Rondo in his prime. Or the Spurs with Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Robert Horry, and Bruce Bowen. Obviously, can't talk about super teams without the Heat with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, and LeBron James, or the Cavs with LeBron, Kyrie Irving, and Kevin Love (or what was supposed to be a super team with Love and Tristan Thompson). Or the Pistons with Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, John Salley, and Dennis Rodman. Or, of course, the Bulls with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Dennis Rodman, Steve Kerr, and Tony Kukoc.

The point here is that I can understand why people don't like these teams comprised of great players in the sense that it is perceived to harm competition. But I kind of do reject the notion that this is something new that is somehow "killing the league," because it's not new. This is how the NBA has always been. I don't blame people for having a hard time caring about the NBA as a result, but I kind of do reject the premise that this is "killing" the league.

Posted June 14th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

And frankly, if we get more Finals with games like Game 3 or Game 5 of this series, then I am totally fine with seeing the same teams play for a few years. Those were two of the most entertaining Finals games in years. Like remember when everyone was trying to sell the Spurs/Heat series as a "great Finals," even though they basically just traded blow out wins until Game 7? I'll take 5 games in which 2 of them are classics over 7 games in which 1 is worthwhile.

Posted June 14th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

Have you ever liked pro-basketball, then?

Not really haha. You'd think that growing up in Chicago I'd be a Jordan fanboy, and while it is cool to have such an icon associated with your city, I was so young. I started paying attention in the 2000s, but i have never followed it nearly as close as the other big 3. I just like the team element of team sports and I feel like pro basketball emphasizes this the least. If you have 3 superstars, you're making the finals and these three often score like 80% of the points. Compared to, say, baseball, the bit and role players matter a lot less.

I respect that you probably disagree though. Different strokes, etc. :)

Edited June 14th by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy
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