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Incels
Posted: Posted May 31st by nullfather

Anyone heard of or even talked to one of the people? The basic definition (from the r/incels FAQ): "an incel, short for involuntary celibate, is someone who tries to find romantic relationships without success and is very pessimistic about his chances".

If you ever feel like making yourself feel better than someone by comparison, go on r/incels and look at the ridiculous toxic garbage fire that is these people's attitude. As one poster that happened to wander through from somewhere else said, "I'm not part of incel but after going through this forum I understand why these men are single".

I legitimately can't tell what's satire and what's not with these people. There's so much ignorance, woman-hating, self-fulfilling "beta" mentality, bad logic and general victim/inferiority complex going on here that I can't find an anchor point.

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"an incel, short for involuntary celibate, is someone who tries to find romantic relationships without success and is very pessimistic about his chances".


Oh man. That's basically me in my late teens and early twenties. I would very much like to never talk to that person ever again... (Although my bitterness was never so much external. I was overall generally frustrated, but never quite to the point of being frustrated by women, or bitter towards particular individuals. Which might be why I grew out of it pretty quickly.)

The whole, "tries but fails to find romantic relationships and is very pessimistic about his chances" thing made for good comedy routines for a bit. I still feel a tad frustrated sometimes that I continue to have such bad luck, but in the most vague of senses (because other than occasionally checking OKCupid, I don't put any self-worth in my relationship status, so who cares?), and now I absolutely hate making jokes about my own singlehood. Just lazy writing, really.

Posted May 31st by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

"an incel, short for involuntary celibate, is someone who tries to find romantic relationships without success and is very pessimistic about his chances".


the people on /r/incels take it to a whole nother level though. I remember reading one thread where the guys were talking about how the government needed to provide sex slaves to them as it was only right. Noped out of there pretty quick.

Posted May 31st by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

I remember reading one thread where the guys were talking about how the government needed to provide sex slaves to them as it was only right

Ave True to Caesar

Posted May 31st by Veteran Decanus
Veteran Decanus
 

I love the posts with long, intense "r/incel regular vs. bewildered normie" comment threads just like I love docudramas about things like deadly building collapses and mass shootings.

Posted May 31st by Kassie The Eevee
Kassie The Eevee

/r9k/ is better than r/incels. Although tbh I'd be hard-pressed to tell you what metric I use to judge that.

Posted May 31st by Brocken Jr.
Brocken Jr.
 

Elliot Rodger and Wizardchan

Posted June 1st by Ophelia
Ophelia

Typically one ages out of incel-dom. Being young often goes hand-in-hand with being horny, angry, socially clueless, physically awkward, or some combination thereof, and as people get less shallow with age it's easier to escape. If one doesn't...well, that's how you get r9k's /robots/.

*googles* r9k was also accidentally invented by Randall Munroe of xkcd, which I did not know, and I do sincerely wonder how he feels about that.

Edited June 2nd by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

I clocked in about ninety seconds at r/incel just now before the concentrated human misery chased me out. Male resentment can be a very ugly thing, and is all the worse for being so unnecessary.

It really doesn't matter if you look like a goblin or have a shelf lined up with anime figurines. Any of those guys are capable of forging relationships with actual people, and would do so if only they tried.

Edited June 2nd by Famov
Famov

Any of those guys are capable of forging relationships with actual people, and would do so if only they tried.

Aside from incels having a tendency for being terrible ugly people physically and mentally they have largely reached a point in their life where they can not so easily form relationships. They can not simply approach a girl on the street as a grown adult and expect a relationship or sex. Their luck has run out. If you believe they haven't tried consider all of the creepy text messages calls and internet messages girls get from people like this. The fact is they are usually not wanted. They are hopeless wretches and they know it. They would be better off dead and they know it. The world would be a better place without them so let them do the only thing that can give their life worth.

Posted June 3rd by Mama Murphy
Mama Murphy
 

Their luck has run out.


They could try not being retarded.

Posted June 4th by nullfather
nullfather

Aside from incels having a tendency for being terrible ugly people physically and mentally they have largely reached a point in their life where they can not so easily form relationships.

There's a feedback loop involved here. Present self badly > get rejected > get bitter > present self worse, 'coz you're mad > get rejected again, because when you're constantly angry girls quite rightfully don't want to talk to you > repeat until miserable. If one can avoid *that,* relationship forming is not so difficult.

I have met an exceptionally schlubby schizophrenic thirty-year-old man who rarely leaves his parent's garage apartment, is unemployed, and does hardly anything except smoke weed and watch 80's B-horror, and yet, with some regularity, he gets laid - sometimes even by the same woman twice! Granted, it's usually married women for some reason, but I suppose it works for him and for them. If that guy can do it, surely anyone on r/incels could manage, if they'd do a little soul-searching and self-improvement.

Posted June 5th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

Getting laid will not fix an inherently broken person.

Posted June 5th by Mama Murphy
Mama Murphy
 

Oh, I agree - but the thread's not about broken people, it's about people who don't have sex.

Posted June 5th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

I don't think you understand what kind of people frequent incel and r9k. There are decent virgins and then there are these people who should be thrown into a furnace. They pride themselves on being mentally dysfunctional and would torture & execute successful people like you if they could get away with it. They judge women harshly and they would only find a select few to be passable. These are the people who actually see Elliot Rodger as a hero. This is why you find such people worshiping either underage girls or women who resemble underage girls if the girls also meet their qualifications. If they tried and succeeded they would no longer be apart of their tribe and they would likely have to settle for a woman they despise and that is why they refuse to succeed the few times they can succeed. It is not about lack of sex instead it is about a contemptible culture. Sure you might find some exceptions but the majority of them are irredeemable.

Edited June 5th by Mama Murphy
Mama Murphy
 

My point is that I know people who can get laid often, and I know people who never get laid, and of the people who never get laid I know people who are ultimately good people who suffer from cripplingly low self-esteem. My circle of friends once (but no longer) included even the self-fellating trashfires you're describing. That's all I meant.

Posted June 5th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

They are hopeless wretches and they know it.

This is just the sort of validation they don't need, and besides it's simply not true. They look for any excuse to surrender their agency on the matter and content themselves to an effortless loneliness. It is not "involuntary" whatever else they might think. They can be better and probably will be eventually. I agree with Pink that this is largely an age problem, and if the median age for r/incel was 19 I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm confident wagering that none of these gentlemen, if we can call them that, experience the disadvantages that Joseph Merrick endured throughout his life, and yet the "elephant man" managed to demonstrate real strength of character in spite of everything. If he can live a worthwhile life so can they, and the good news is most eventually will.

Posted June 5th by Famov
Famov

Famov you have not even begun to understand the depth of their depravity. I have been observing these people for years and you are wrong. This is not about their disadvantages this is about their being horrible defective human beings. They might as well be psychopaths. If you are expecting most of them to grow out of it you are horribly mistaken. A new culture raised by the internet keeps them from ever growing out of it or seeing a reason to. Believe it or not they want to be this way. Even if they can grow out of it they will not choose to.

Posted June 5th by Momma Murphy
Momma Murphy
 

I went to look but I'm told they were banned.

Posted June 5th by Vandy
Vandy

Yeah, their "depravity" is a meme. The problem that I see for most of them is that they don't realize that there's no functional difference between pretending to be a piece of shit and actually being a piece of shit, so they feel safe or even justified in acting like autistic psychopaths.

They're living memes and, as such, actually lean into being failures.

Posted June 5th by nullfather
nullfather

I went to look but I'm told they were banned.


/r/incel is a banned community, so they just moved to /r/incels.

Posted June 5th by nullfather
nullfather

There are decent virgins and then there are these people who should be thrown into a furnace.

Oh please. You, and plenty of other people probably would have ended up similar if you were in their shoes.

Far worse people have changed yet somehow you doubt angsty 4chan-like people obsessed with sex while having high expectations can? Sure they're terrible I'll give you that but you're talking like they're the worst, and most harmful people in existence which is ridiculous and you're literally talking about burning them alive.Their hate and angst is little different from the average tween except it's somewhat organized and focused on a particular demographic.

Edited June 5th by KnucklesMK2
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