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Alien: Covenant (spoilers in tags)
Posted: Posted May 17th
Edited May 17th by Moonray

Is ok, but let's be clear this is a Prometheus sequel that doubles as an Alien prequel rather than an Alien prequel that doubles as a Prometheus sequel.

By which I mean as a movie it is a lot more like Prometheus than Alien.

I think it was described as a "thinking man's horror movie" but there's practically no horror in this thing and it doesn't ever get you thinking (although it does try, they just don't ever really get into it). The topics I suspect you're supposed consider aren't particularly original ideas nor are they executed particularly well:



Also they should stop doing these damn CGI Aliens, they look godawful at times. Sometimes it looks ok, but those are probably times where it's actually a practical effect like a prop or costume rather than CGI.

Guess you Americans got a couple more days before it is out? So I'll have to wait before I really talk spoilers?

Big spoiler avoid until you have watched it (you have been warned):



Oh and also:



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Yeah, I've been hearing basically the same thing from other people who saw early previews. That it isn't necessarily "bad," but it isn't really good either. I guess I ultimately just feel like, why are they putting in sooo much effort to try and explain where the aliens came from?

Posted May 17th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

I saw the preview and considered seeing it on Friday.

I guess you've made me disappointed in it already. I don't like brainless CGI action films.

How does it compare to Prometheus in quality?

Posted May 17th by Agis in the US
Agis in the US
 

I have points to see a free movie, but I will save them for Pirates if this is a bomb.

Posted May 17th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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That it isn't necessarily "bad," but it isn't really good either.


Yea basically. It was just ok.

I guess I ultimately just feel like, why are they putting in sooo much effort to try and explain where the aliens came from?


Yea, exactly. I feel like knowing where the Aliens come from kinda ruins them a little bit. Like they were just this cool killer alien race that exist, why do they need an origin beyond "they evolved on some world somewhere"? They've now done two movies to try to explain where they come from and neither one really does it that well.

How does it compare to Prometheus in quality?


It's bee a while since I saw Prometheus but I think I would rate Prometheus higher than Covenant in quality.

I have points to see a free movie, but I will save them for Pirates if this is a bomb.


If you have to choose this or something else I'd probably say wait for something else.

Posted May 18th by Moonray
Moonray

There's still a horror element in the film, it's just in the Dracula-meets-Frankenstein narrative involving Fassbender (which I quite liked, even if I feel like it's misplaced). But otherwise, yeah, the xenos just aren't scary anymore. They haven't really been since Alien 3. They're literally the weakest parts of Covenant, at least outside of the first act.

Much like Prometheus, Covenant is plagued by an inept (and charmless) crew, nonsensical mysticisms, and delusions of grandeur. This series' world-building and philosophical musings are getting out of hand, and the current trend of expanding and detailing stories that don't need it in the first place really kill the mystery and tension for something like Alien. But then on top of that, they go ahead and write out Elizabeth Shaw and the Engineers, two of the most important parts from Prometheus. So I just don't know what their angle is anymore, and I'm not sure I even care either.

All the action and deaths just felt like a greatest hits of what's already come before, too. I've had enough chestburster and facehugger deaths to last me a lifetime. I agree on the CGI as well. It's shockingly bad in the third act, expected a little more from Ridley Scott on that front.

Decent film if you want to watch Michael Fassbender chew scenery, not so much if you're in it for Alien.

Posted May 18th by Orion Nebula
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