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Guardians Vol. 2
Posted: Posted May 7th by -Riku-

So is it worth seeing?

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Yes!

Posted May 8th by Moonray
Moonray
 

I plan on seeing it soon.

Posted May 8th by Q
Q
 

I'm seeing it weds. I planned on seeing it on May 5th but I was too lazy. Lol. Also, I didn't want to wait in line if there was one.

Posted May 8th by Castrael
Castrael

I'm hesitant about seeing it because it's Marvel tradition for a sequel to be much weaker than its predecessor, with the exception of the Captain America sequels and MAYBE Age of Ultron

Posted May 8th by -Riku-
-Riku-
 

I say you should watch it.

Overall it's better than the first one. Story is probably a bit weaker IMO.

Posted May 8th by Moonray
Moonray
 

I wouldn't say it was "better," but I wouldn't say it was "worse" either. I didn't really notice a drop in quality. The villain is a big step up, but that doesn't really mean much given Marvel's propensity to not care too much about the villains in these things. The individual character arcs are probably better, although I'm not sure the team arc is particularly different.

I also personally wasn't super into Baby Groot. But I did appreciate what they did with Yondu, and will always take more Nebula and any Mantis.

Realized halfway through Vol. 2 that I'm maybe less into these versions of the characters. The Guardians of the Galaxy are some of my favorite comic book characters, but these versions are different enough that they can be unrecognizable. My prime examples are Gamora and Drax. I really don't care for what they've done with either, but especially Drax. Did they really need to turn him into a comic relief character when the film is overloaded with comic relief characters?

But I also noticed that my problem isn't with the writing itself. I don't like what they chose to do with Drax as a character, but he's been written in a consistent manner. So it's just a creative decision I don't care for, rather than something like poor writing and execution. People obviously like this take on Drax, so it's all good. I still have my comics. Both versions can exist and please various people.


I do think it they went a li'l overboard with the JPM. (Jokes per minute.) They really didn't ever seem comfortable letting it get too real, which was a bit unfortunate given it's a lot more focused on character emotions (which is good). I just think, at some point, they could let the film breathe a bit without a joke.

But yeah, I didn't notice any drop-off in quality from the first.

Posted May 8th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

I'm hesitant about seeing it because it's Marvel tradition for a sequel to be much weaker than its predecessor, with the exception of the Captain America sequels and MAYBE Age of Ultron


I personally think the Sequel to Iron Man 2 is great. Iron man 3 was a fine movie imo.

Thor 3 looks great too!

Ill be watching it after finals I am happy that I have avoided all major trailers.

Posted May 8th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

The individual character arcs are probably better, although I'm not sure the team arc is particularly different.


Yea the character arcs were definitely better. Part of this drew from the first movie, but I think the majority of it is to the credit of the writing team on this movie. Yondu was the standout in terms of this.

My prime examples are Gamora and Drax. I really don't care for what they've done with either, but especially Drax.


I'm unsure on Drax. It's almost like they can't decide what they want to do with him, one moment he will be fairly serious the next he's the comic relief muscle side-kick. As you said the movie does have a lot of a "and now the next joke" feel to it, but Drax I dunno he just isn't consistent enough.

To compare him to Rocket who has a fairly defined character and his humour falls straight into that character (insults typically). Drax's humour is "dumb sidekick" yet his character seems to be a fairly intelligent dude who has experienced a lot of shit, the two things just clash so much that I find it hard to like his character.

They really didn't ever seem comfortable letting it get too real, which was a bit unfortunate given it's a lot more focused on character emotions (which is good). I just think, at some point, they could let the film breathe a bit without a joke.


Yea. I don't think they ever interrupted any serious character moments with jokes, but they sure followed them up with a joke pretty fast so that you didn't dwell on it too much.

I also personally wasn't super into Baby Groot.




Posted May 9th by Moonray
Moonray
 

Yea. I don't think they ever interrupted any serious character moments with jokes, but they sure followed them up with a joke pretty fast so that you didn't dwell on it too much.


I think the first scene that pops into my head when I said that was when Drax and Mantis were talking. It was actually a pretty serious character moment for the both of them, and is actually one of the more powerful emotional beats in the movie (I thought). guess they don't so much "interrupt" the scene, since they start with the joke and the get serious, but I don't really know why that joke had to be in there in the first place. That was a good, emotional moment. For a movie about emotions, it seems like they never got super comfortable being in it until the finale. Drax's weird comments, like when he gives Quill love advice, or asks about anatomy of Ego, ok, fine. Especially in the latter, it is interrupting the scene, but it's all just a big exposition dump so who cares? Not that big a deal.

It is kind of funny that even when it gets serious, they are soooo quick to throw in a joke at the very end to transition things when you consider that



Also, can I just say that 5 mid and post credit scenes is a li'l overkill? Even for five scenes that are all just little gags?




Also, also! Forgot to mention this I've been having some trouble with Marvel (or, really, Hollywood) for the lack of care they seem to have in their original scores. It isn't to say they're producing "bad" scores (the music itself is quite good, usually), but they all sound the same and none of the stuff is memorable or stands out from the rest, which I think is especially strange for the superhero genre in which their powers and costumes make them stand out (and the Spider-man and Batman themes have been some of the most iconic character themes of the last 60 years), why none of these characters seem to have much of a musical motif, and their films have nearly identical scores that blandly hit the emotional beats like robots.

Imagine the frustration when, at the end of the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 credits, we finally got a memorable original track!






Posted May 9th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

As someone who really appreciates the soundtrack in movies I have to admit the Marvel ones have been a disappointment post phase-1.

Phase 1 felt like it was setting up character motifs, but then when all the sequels started showing up these motifs were dropped and we just get "the next set of music"... Like you said, they're not bad tracks. Some are really good to listen to, but otherwise I find them hard to appreciate beyond that.

(I think Avengers 2 may have actually kept the generic "team" motif from the first film. Would have to rewatch but I feel like it showed up a few times in the sequel).

Posted May 10th by Moonray
Moonray
 

"I personally think the Sequel to Iron Man 2 is great. Iron man 3 was a fine movie imo."

lets be real here, Iron Man 2 wasn't very good so anything released after it will almost certainly be viewed as better if they didn't make the same mistakes.

But I think Marvel has it figured out on how to make good movies now. Civil War was pretty good and so was Dr. Strange.

Posted May 10th by Q
Q
 

I saw GotG2 last night and it was good. If you don't go in expecting anything but a superhero-themed comedy film, you won't be disappointed.

If I were to judge it from a neutral position regarding things that I normally like, I would probably hate it. But the film carries out its intent very well and I understand what its intent was, given that I saw the first GotG.

It's just fun.

Posted May 10th by nullfather
nullfather

Yeah, exactly. If you're looking for just an entertaining movie, it nails that.

But I think many have been over-selling it. People kinda do that with Marvel in that they try to make it seem like it's a deeper movie than it actually is. Winter Soldier was all about Big Brother, or standing up to a corrupt government. GotG2 is all about learning to embrace your emotions and admit them. Definitely in there, but hardly as deep or focused as many people sell it as. But it's still a solid, fun movie.

Posted May 10th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

I just saw it. It's a good sequel in terms of other marvel movies but far from being amazing I was largely disappointed with the music. I bought the soundtrack for voulme 1 almost instantly ( pretty sure o logged onto Amazon as the credits rolled to buy a digital copy)

The ending was neat though so goddam colorful and emotional.

Posted May 28th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

I really liked the soundtrack, but I would agree that it isn't as overall good as the first film. I appreciate that they let James Gunn kinda take control over the films more than they appear to let others.

Posted May 28th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto
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