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That study about Mormon spiritual evidence and its effects on the brain
Posted: Posted March 27th by GC/MS

Everybody seems to be up in arms about it stimulating the part of the brain that governs addiction. But I read the scholarly article, and I saw that this region also governs romantic love.

BUT NO, non-religious people only want science to back THEM up. Non-religious people can't have science backing religion up!

So, they conveniently leave that part out.

Do you know what it is called when somebody leaves something out of a news article because they want it to sound bad? It's called "yellow journalism."

And everybody really should be better than that. But it seems too much to ask.
http://www.sltrib.com/home/4617561-155/study-shows-mormons-brains-light-up

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Everybody seems to be up in arms about it stimulating the part of the brain that governs addiction. But I read the scholarly article, and I saw that this region also governs romantic love.

Haha. No surprise there.

Posted March 27th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
The machiavellian menace

Everybody seems to be up in arms about it stimulating the part of the brain that governs addiction. But I read the scholarly article, and I saw that this region also governs romantic love.

Yes it does. Love and addiction are really not that different from each other. The joy of being together, the pain of a break up, even criminal behavior like stalking all resemble a drive towards getting one's "fix" of the other person.

But really one can get addicted to anything that relieves stress. Eating, video games, sex, drugs, working out, and also religion it would seem. Any one of these can be taken too far.

Posted March 27th by Louis De Pointe du Lac
Louis De Pointe du Lac
No love = No future

But the article says nothing about taking romantic love too far. That region of the brain is the pleasure center.

BUT NO, atheists absolutely CANNOT HAVE religion being supported by science, so what do they do? Alter science! Alter the facts to fit the theory! Do away with established neuroscience! Change the rules of the game! Atheism MUST solely have science on THEIR side no matter if you have to CHEAT! Science is great, but we're only interested in what it can do for ATHEISM! If it can do something for religion, something must be wrong with it! SPIN! SPIN!

If you're thinking about how nice it is to be snogging your significant other, coming home after a long day, atheists say you're using the same region of the brain that governs ADDICTION, not pleasure. According to atheists, ALL OF THIS IS WRONG. ADDICTION IS WRONG! Pleasure is great, but that's COMPLETELY UNRELATED!

If you think I'm angry because people conveniently think science is only real if it confirms their bias, YOU BETCHA! It proves you know absolutely nothing about it, and if you ever get a job in science, either those attitudes or your career will be very short-lived. Science is universal. It does not lick your boots at your beck and call. Totally makes me sick how it is treated here.

Posted March 28th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

Everybody seems to be up in arms about it stimulating the part of the brain that governs addiction. But I read the scholarly article, and I saw that this region also governs romantic love.


What exactly are you suggesting this proves though?

I notice the article mentions:

While in the MRI machine, participants were shown clips of spiritually evocative, LDS Church-produced videos and were allowed time to read scriptures and pray.
The most moving part of the experience for Peterson, who completed her mission in Salt Lake City, was watching a video of Joseph Smith's "First Vision," in which the Mormon founder said God and Jesus appeared to him.
"Because I've seen that and read that several times, not only was I having memories, but I felt emotions, and I felt strongly about it," Peterson said. "It was epic."


Given that movies/tv shows/etc can provoke emotional responses in people do you at least accept the >possibility< that the same thing can be said here? I mean, just a good piece of music can get me quite emotional.

Posted March 28th by Moonray
Moonray
 

What exactly are you suggesting this proves though?

I'm suggesting that the anti-Mormon sentiment focusing on the negative uses of that region of the brain and ignoring the positive uses is slanted yellow journalism, abusing science to make the Church look bad. Ever heard of a lie of omission?

I mean, just a good piece of music can get me quite emotional.

Yes! And that's a good thing! Your music is stimulating the same pleasure-centric region of your brain that just happens to also govern addiction. But according to those who want to discredit my Church, using this region is a bad thing, because they want to focus attention away from the positive aspect of using that region in order to try and use science against us, which is wrong. Science bolsters the lives of every living thing. It's not supposed to be shaped and molded and abused to generate negative sentiment about a philosophical opponent. It's not a crutch.

Edited March 29th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

I don't see much of a point in worrying about an afterlife while I am alive. Anxiety has never succeeded in comforting me. Whatever happens will happen.

Posted April 2nd by Red Leaf
Red Leaf

Who says we're worrying?

Posted April 4th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

Okay GC, I am not Christian, so my soul is damned to eternal hell right? because I have been to church and shown the light and I still don't believe in God. Christians now worry about me.

Posted April 5th by Red Leaf
Red Leaf

Why must you assume that about all Christians? Sure, a few Christians might comfort themselves thinking that you're going to hell, but not me or my religion. But I guess you need to comfort yourself as well by making blanket statements.

Posted April 14th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I mean Christians worry that I am going to hell. They are worried about me.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

And you're letting that go to your head?

Posted April 14th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

Why do you assume that?

I just wonder why they care.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Would you prefer they not care? I thought caring about a stranger was a good thing.

Posted April 14th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

I have already been to hell, my friend. Hell is when you're all alone and you hate yourself and there's no one around to pick you up except for paramedics.

Satan could torch me for eternity but he could never forge a deeper wound than a broken heart.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

We've all been through that. But what's that got to do with strangers caring about you? Do you not like that?

Edited April 14th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

It's just not something I am used to. And while I don't question your personal faith, I am disillusioned with the way organized churches handle spirituality. So I have never considered being part of such a community. But I do believe in a higher power. And I do love my fellow people even though they tend to find me annoying. Especially on GT.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

I am not even dead yet. So why have I already tasted hell? Or am I already dead and this is hell?

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

GC

I believe that of God created each of us, he has a different goal for each of us and we are almost his eyes for viewing himself at, a multitude of angles in 5D space.

Organized churches encourage worship and group think.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Groupthink takes away my individuality and makes life purposeless for me. If I am not me then I am existentially already dead.

Posted April 14th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

I am disillusioned with the way organized churches handle spirituality.

You must not have seen mine.

Posted April 14th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

By the way, there is a major difference between "groupthink" and the truth. Your attitude is coloring this. Calling deep discussion about the truth "groupthink" is putting a negative spin on a positive thing. It's affixing labels and using them to give yourself permission to dismiss this positive thing out of hand. Discussing the truth is always a good thing. But the very second the unreligious see that the truth is being discussed by an organized religion, they instantly erect a wall and paint the word "insanity" on it. This is bias, plain and simple. It's not good to be biased. I'm not saying all discussion is not "groupthink" but it shouldn't be too much to ask to investigate before you judge.

Posted August 9th by GC/MS
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