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It’s playing around with numbers like you do for video games especially for smash bros. Math offers the highest salaries.

Writing research papers has always been impossible for me. Too much communication and organization.

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not everyone thinks the same way, or enjoys the same things. Some people struggle with less-concrete concepts that they see as irrelevant to their lives outside of class. I always did well in math, but never liked working with it and was glad to get away from it when I could. On the other hand, I enjoyed the explorative thought and freedom of writing and never turned in a bad paper thanks to having that room for expression.

also math is really not a significant part of smash

Posted October 23rd by Pirate_Ninja

Yeah I don't know how math would really help you in Smash.

And it's like PN said, you have to have the frame of mind for it. I was really good at most math (aside from Trig) but it got tiresome for me. For some people they excel in art and it's easier than math for them. I suck at art.

Posted October 23rd by Fox Forever

Basically what the previous posts said. Not everyone is Einstein. Some are Goodall.

Posted October 23rd by Louis De Pointe du Lac
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Ashley is excellent at art fox. She understands anime and manga as perfectly as castrael does (writing included). She has beautiful art drawings and written novels.

For those of you who do not know Ashley is one of my irl friends who fox has met multiple times at my house (she really wants to play the game cuphead but doesn’t have nor want an Xbox). And she wears a hearing aid too cas, so maybe you two are TWINS.

How do people understand art and literature? I mean despite the fact that Apollo calls me everyone’s court jester I still can’t read or write at all or even hold a decent conversation.

Posted October 23rd by Weid man

I mean despite the fact that Apollo calls me everyone’s court jester I still can’t read or write at all or even hold a decent conversation.

So what do you have a scribe you dictate to when you post on gametalk???

Posted October 23rd by Louis De Pointe du Lac
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I have no authority here whatsoever. What happened to immaculate blood btw? She seemed to be freaked out by kern and doctor doom and all of the Christians in the spirituality forum giving her a hard time. Honestly I don’t give a damn what people’s religious identity (or lack thereof) is. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. A good Christian is one who respects others personal affiliations and wishes.

Posted October 24th by Weid man

So what do you have a scribe you dictate to when you post on gametalk???

He actually types everything through his phone and does it there. Which is why if you've ready his posts it autocorrects a bunch of times. He also has to zoom in really close to read it. His fingers lack a lot of dexterity but he can still play some games, but not for very long.

Posted October 24th by Fox Forever

for me it's because may of te processes werenot intuitive and not explaiend well lie multiplication they d idn't teach me HOW to multiply in school they just gave me a list of multiplication problems and teir answers and expected me to memorize them likewise when learning how to divide they jus ttold me to "multiply backwards" wen I didn't even udnerstand ow it was done forwards

Posted October 24th by tnu
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Everyone’s mind works differently and thus learning Math can be more difficult for some than others. However I think everyone is capable of learning basic and even intermediate math such as addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. It all comes down to finding a way to teach it.



Posted October 25th by Q
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How do people understand art and literature?

By reading books and drawing on paper. And calculus definitely umisnt easy have u ever heard of a cosine function def not easy

Edited November 9th by Brandy

Math became a chore when we had to whip out the scientific calculators in high school. I like fundamental and mental math, but I hate math where I have to graph things out and enter formulas into a calculators because I don't see the point. If the math is too difficult for a human brain to figure it out then let a computer do it and leave me out of it.

Edited November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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Yeah I don't know how math would really help you in Smash.

The same way math helps you when playing music. It's all about timing and motion. That's why Monty Oum was good at animating. He had a mathematical understanding of fighting and dancing choreography. Making it natural and balanced.

Posted November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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It's all about timing and motion.

Isn't that based off a reasonable and observed expectation, though? Like if you have a sense of rhythm (imo, I do) you don't necessarily do the math right there, you already can understand the rhythm. I mean, math may be involved but you're not calculating it in your head while playing Smash exactly. You can have a quick sense of numbers and how much damage something will do but I doubt being good at addition will help you out in terms of the game.

If we say that math is involved in that sense then math is involved in practically every single sense and it may be mundane to point out since it occurs everywhere. Such as "math helps you walk!"

Posted November 9th by Fox Forever

Math can help in composing music, but playing it tends to be more natural, relying on instinct and repetition more than mathematical calculation.

For instance, the literal "mathcore" drummer Billy Rimer of Dillinger Escape Plan. He says that he doesn't count beats when he's drumming and that it's more like speaking a phrase through drums.

Posted November 9th by theprodukt

Yeah but some people have no flow or balance when they try to formulate patterns so it is an inherent talent in some people more than others. Watch RWBY Volume 4 and then watch Volume 1 and 2 and you'll see that even though the production costs are low in earlier volumes the fighting animation is objectively more realistic and superior and less floaty and pointless. Because Oum was a dancer and he had style and understood math. Math is the coolest subject of them all in that regard.

Edited November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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The only math I enjoyed and was good at was Statistics . it clicked with me. I barely scraped by algebra and geometry.

Posted November 9th by S.o.h.
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Understanding of math is the difference between being stylish and being clumsy.

Posted November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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You're hanging some broad statements on some narrow points. Math is a class of patterns for the understanding of reality, just like the other disciplines. It is fundamental, yes, but music and choreography are naturally closer to language and other things that are based more on instinct specifically because they're less fundamental.

If there is a hard science that relates most to dance, music, etc., it's biology.

Edited November 9th by theprodukt

ironically, this lauding of math seems to have veered off into creative writing

Posted November 9th by Pirate_Ninja

Maybe while you're actually dancing yourself. But when you're trying to animate a fight or a dance scene, you need to understand the math behind the instinct to make it look like it's just instinct. Plus some people have poor instinct when dancing. :P

Posted November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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I find that the tendency to attribute someone's skill to an innate and ephemeral factor is used purely as a method of coping with the fact that you have not tried.

Math is a lot of things. It's both logic and geometry, for a couple of examples. And, as I said, it can be helpful in composing music. But math doesn't make you graceful and it doesn't make you a good musician. It's a tool that may facilitate it, depending on your methods. But saying that understanding the math behind a situation makes you look stylish and natural is like saying that understanding the grammar behind a situation makes you look stylish and natural. It may or may not be relevant to the tools you are using and the application that you are using them for.

Posted November 9th by theprodukt

I guess what I should be saying isn't understanding of math, but applying your understanding of math. The better your understanding, the more effortless your instinct becomes. And a lot of that is through experience. Imagine you're a North American native man 2000 years ago, and you throw a perfect spear and lodge it in the middle of the head of a deer. You probably don't understand geometry or trajectory on paper, but you sure as hell have one absolute understanding of the physics of that spear in practice.

Posted November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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Being able to do math on the fly in every day life when you don't have time to think about it is still helpful. And shouldn't just be taken for granted because not everyone can do it as well.

Edited November 9th by I killed Mufasa
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Of course being able to do more is better in the most general sense. Your specific original idea "math helps you play music" is essentially arbitrary when you give not even the slightest indication of why "math" is any more important of a subject to place in that sentence than "biology", "linguistics", etc. The two issues that you mentioned (timing and motion) are only tangentially related to mathematics; math does help with music theory in the sense of understanding the structure of harmonizing frequencies and polyrhythms and such, but the drama, tension/release, impact, and movement of music possesses much more fundamental elements of language, biology, and the more ephemeral considerations of culture and psychology.

Math is in music like math is (technically) in all things; i.e. you can measure these subjects. However: experience, experimentation and exposure are the real weight-movers when it comes to the purer arts like music and dance. Architecture? Assuredly, a lot of math is employed there. Not necessary in music, though. In fighting games? Muscle memory, reaction time and fundamental tactics.

Posted November 9th by theprodukt

We don't even disagree.

Posted Saturday by I killed Mufasa
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I already suspected that my issue was more with your apparently misplaced enthusiasm and not with whatever it is that you actually think.

Posted Saturday by theprodukt

I chalk it down to the fact that I'm dyslexic so I sometimes use similar but slightly different words to say what I mean and I don't bother arguing with people because they're probably right technically but my viewpoint remains the same.

Posted Saturday by I killed Mufasa
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I know I probably don't seem dyslexic (and amusingly that might not even be the right word) but it's because I read and write a fuck tonne so while my spelling and grammar are usually pretty solid, my understanding of word meanings isn't. And yes that was probably a run-on sentence and I don't care.

Edited Saturday by I killed Mufasa
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I don't enjoy words like Parasol, or Aqua, or Parka - I prefer umbrella, blue, and coat. That's why I like just saying "Math" rather than bothering to delve into the sub categories where I don't know what I'm talking about anyway. I'm no mathematician or even musician. I just know that generally speaking Math helps you do everything, and there is street smart math like knowing when you should bother chasing down a bus in the rain or wait in line at McDonalds or go somewhere else so you won't be late. Math that doesn't require a calculator or a function but is still an equation in your head. Your brain has to process it even if it's instinct.

Edited Saturday by I killed Mufasa
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