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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


A lot of people on the center right get into the habit of criticising national socialism, falsely equating it with marxist socialism.

Heres a good video actually explaining what National Socialism is.



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I had to pause the video for a moment when they showed a picture of Lovecraft over the line about "creative geniuses". Lovecraft was a shlock writer who only reached mainstream popularity posthumously due to the supportive extended universe written by his friends. There are MAYBE a handful of his works that could be considered "creative genius", but none of them are in the Cthulhu Mythos and they are unknown by the vast majority of readers.

Posted Tuesday by nullfather
nullfather

National socialism holds that race is the primary divider between peoples (as does identity politics, which is why it's doing so much damage to race relations in our countries). But this simply isn't true. The primary dividers are class, culture and nation. Race is very far down that list, and is not a necessary divider but a contingent one.

A black man and a white man, living in Britain, who share a similar upbringing, language and culture, have far, far more in common with each other than two white men from different cultures, classes or linguistic backgrounds.

So why divide people according to their race?

If the concern is with unifying people, then again the primary source of unification among disparate peoples is the nation, not race. It is a sense of shared culture, history and tradition. Think about how the empires of history united disparate peoples, or how soldiers of different races fought alongside each other under the same flag in the world wars.

National socialism, as a race-based ideology, is based on a mistake.

Posted Tuesday by Smiling Apple
Smiling Apple

I wouldn't even say nation is a huge divider. Class and culture are way more important, to the point that racial strife can be totally chalked up to cultural differences with a little bit of racism thrown in. Just anecdotally I've seen:

  • Africans and African-Americans that were extremely "racist" towards each other

  • An open racist who disowned his daughter because she married an African-American actually supported Ben Carson's run for the presidency

  • A friend who uses the n word frequently who was a really close friends with a black guy in his same culture. He likes to say "I have no problem with black people, I just don't like n-----s".

  • Edited Tuesday by Xhin
    Xhin
     

    A friend who uses the n word frequently who was a really close friends with a black guy in his same culture. He likes to say "I have no problem with black people, I just don't like n-----s".

    I know a guy who is anti-racist who when he gets frustrated trying to fix something uses the n word. When I asked him about it he said he is trying not to cuss as he has a young daughter.
    I asked why the n word and he said he spent a lot of time with his bigoted grandfather when he was younger and figures that's where it came from. He is working on finding a new non-cuss word now.

    What was the saying about the sins of the father? lol.

    Posted Tuesday by Psygnosis
    Psygnosis

    falsely equating it with marxist socialism.

    No, we rightly associate it with Nazi-ism.

    But then again, #85 has been, and always will be a troll, plain and simple.

    Posted Wednesday by GC/MS
    GC/MS
     

    I wouldn't even say nation is a huge divider.

    I think if you live on a continent-spanning country with several hundred million, it's probably less noticable.

    Meanwhile myself and SA are an hour or so away from a nation and people who speak a completely different language and have a distinct and unique political and social culture. Whilst there are strong common historical links between us, there are also clear and strong differences.

    Posted Wednesday by Arch
    Arch
     

    Well nullfather I dont have a retort for the single image you decided to focus on, Im more looking to focus on the content of the speech.

    But then again, #85 has been, and always will be a troll, plain and simple.

    You repeat this slander all the time. Is your magic underwear too tight?

    But this simply isn't true. The primary dividers are class, culture and nation. Race is very far down that list, and is not a necessary divider but a contingent one. 

    Humans are a tribal animal. The majority of our history we operated in groups of exclusively our own people. Surely this has to have a scientific effect. Class, nation, and cultute didn't even exist.

    When you lool at homogenous societies they are high trust. 50 years ago people didnt lock their doors here in the USA and its not because of culture.

    We are living in an era where every group is asserting their identity. Be it black, hispanic, jewish, etc. But for reasons, some white people want to shy away from that. It is almost exclusively white people with this mindset and incase you haven't noticed, whites are endangered and our racial outlook isn't good. Wouldn't you like to remain England rather than become Singhland?

    If the concern is with unifying people, then again the primary source of unification among disparate peoples is the nation, not race.

    You cant teach them to be English, its something you are born with. These people by in large have no concern for the nation because they are not from it.

    Think about how the empires of history united disparate peoples, or how soldiers of different races fought alongside each other under the same flag in the world wars.

    Yes they were conquered, absorbed into the army and society, then the nations collapsed.

    Do you not want some sort of cap on it? Are you ok with less than 50% native english?

    Posted Wednesday by #85
    #85

    Humans are a tribal animal.

    Speak for yourself.

    trib·al·ist
    ˈtrībələst/
    nounderogatory
    noun: tribalist; plural noun: tribalists

    an advocate or practitioner of strong loyalty to one's own tribe or social group.
    ----------------------------------------

    in·di·vid·u·al·ist
    ˌindəˈvij(ə)wələst,ˌindəˈvijələst/
    noun
    noun: individualist; plural noun: individualists

    1.
    a person who is independent and self-reliant.
    "a rugged individualist driven to succeed"
    a self-centered or egotistical person.
    "selfish individualists thinking only of themselves"
    2.
    an advocate of a social theory favoring freedom of action for individuals over collective or state control.
    "radical individualists, committed to quality of life"

    adjective
    adjective: individualist

    1.
    relating to or characterized by the habit or principle of being independent and self-reliant.
    "individualist attitudes"
    2.
    relating to or denoting a social theory favoring freedom of action for individuals over collective or state control.
    "individualist capitalism"

    Posted Wednesday by Psygnosis
    Psygnosis

    "Humans are a tribal animal."

    humanity got to where it is through mutual aid, not social darwinist nonsense lol

    Posted Wednesday by poptart!
    poptart!
     

    @Smiling Apple

    In Birmingham, 31% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 36% in 2011

    In Bradford, 44% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 47% in 2011 

    In Luton, 21% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 30% in 2011 - a fall of 9% in 6 years 

    In Reading, 44% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 53% in 2011 - a fall of 9% in 6 years 

    In Manchester, 37% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 46% in 2011.

    In Coventry, 49% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 60% in 2011 - a fall of 11% in 6 years 

    In Slough, 16% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 22% in 2011

    In Nottingham, 46% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 56% in 2011 - a fall of 10% in 6 years 

    In Leicester, 29% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 34% in 2011

    In London 26% of primary school children were white British in 2017. This fell from 31% in 2011 

    Blackburn (47%), Sandwell (43%), Bedford (49%, down 12% in 6 years from 61% in 2011) and Wolverhampton (46%) also have less than 50% white British primary age children
    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/schools-pupils-and-their-characteristics-january-2017 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/schools-pupils-and-their-characteristics-january-2011
    Time is running out.

    Posted Wednesday by #85
    #85

    You repeat this slander all the time. Is your magic underwear too tight?

    Responds to a comment accusing him of being a troll with a troll reply, while also saying it's slander...

    Anyways, only someone who's politically illiterate would equate Nazism with Marxism. Nazism, despite the name, is imperialist, Capitalist, and a bourgeois ideology that has nothing in common with true socialism. But it tries to appeal to the common [white] man, thus the name "national socialism."

    Posted Thursday by Jubei
    Jubei
     

    Whites are an endangered species now? Lol.

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