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Toxic Masculinity Test
Posted: Posted September 16th by Canary Yellow
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Because why not? It's fun to talk about how completely clueless surveys can be sometimes.
https://www.idrlabs.com/toxic-masculinity/test.php


The idea that I am homophobic at all, much less more homophobic than the average person, is hilarious. However, I'm surprised that I scored so low for heteronormativity. I think that there's some bizarre conflation here between homosexual behavior and gender dysphoria that I don't employ in my worldview, which led to the difference being split on this test.

Trait anger is entirely on the dot and I own that 100%.

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What does homophobia have to do with masculinity? Plenty of women are also homophobic.

Also not sure how heteronormativity is a toxic masculine trait. When 90-95% of the population is heterosexual, that makes it "normal" by definition.

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Posted September 16th by Xhin
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I think the test is... pretty problematic. The questions only score points against you. Also, heteronormative =/= traditional gender roles.

I think the deceitfulness is pretty off, though; I answered strongly agree in questions where I could have material gain in victimless crimes. But, there were no questions asking if I am OK with lying to better my social standing (which I am not). So I feel my results are pretty skewed.

Anger, though? Yeah it's good. I get mad.



Edited September 16th by Aviatrix
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Lol trait anger. Not saying it's necessarily wrong but. Ya this test probably isn't good but I've seen worse.

3.77% more prone to deceitfulness and arrogance than the average person.
50.69% more disposed to anger than the average person.
23.43% less heteronormative than the average person.
18.56% less homophobic than the averge person.
3.62% more prone to toxic masculinity than the average person overall.


The idea that I am homophobic at all, much less more homophobic than the average person, is hilarious.

I mean, you got the self-hating gay people and the ones who display homophobic tendencies by speaking against their own so often and you're only bi iirc so it's totally possible. Same with any area basically, there's always those people. Not saying anything about you or the test necessarily though.

What does homophobia have to do with masculinity? Plenty of women are also homophobic.

Probably overly patriarchal societies tending towards homophobia I guess, but I doubt many people at all think women can't be these things either.

Also not sure how heteronormativity is a toxic masculine trait. When 90-95% of the population is heterosexual, that makes it "normal" by definition.

The idea is that there are people who think everyone else shouldn't have much say representation in media, they shouldn't be more normalized at least in people's mind, ect. As for it not being a toxic masculine trait, many things aren't exclusive, it CAN be part of such a trait though because of course the heteronormative people are less likely to be understanding of people who fit into the lgbtq label. Just important to keep in mind, this isn't about being hetrosexual but about how much you're willing for everything else to be normalized.

Edited September 16th by Grey Echelon
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Also, heteronormative =/= traditional gender roles.

They're probably lumping them together because often the former enables the latter but you're right.

Posted September 16th by Grey Echelon
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traditional gender roles are included in the definition of heteronormativity but its not defined by traditional gender roles

Posted September 16th by do lives matter
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https://charts.idrlabs.com/graphic/toxic-masculinity?2&p=44,41,10,0,24&l=EN
100% soyboy

but yeah this test is dumb. the question asking about how other people think i should act threw me for a loop

Posted Thursday by poptart!
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I feel like some of these questions just notify the IRS to check up on you.



Apparently I'm a naughty boy. Would be curious to know which questions factored into the deceitful-arrogance decision, as I disagreed with most of the "you should fight to get respect" "I am entitled to respect" type questions.

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this makes you:

9.77% more prone to deceitfulness and arrogance than the average person.
2.31% less disposed to anger than the average person.
8.57% more heteronormative than the average person.
9.56% less homophobic than the averge person.
1.62% more prone to toxic masculinity than the average person overall


I shouldn't take a test that misspells "average" seriously. (or any online test for that matter)

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Probably overly patriarchal societies tending towards homophobia I guess, but I doubt many people at all think women can't be these things either.


I mean you could have a matriarchial society where the ruling class was strongly against lesbianism. It just doesn't make sense to characterize homophobia as a masculine trait.

The idea is that there are people who think everyone else shouldn't have much say representation in media, they shouldn't be more normalized at least in people's mind, ect.


I mean, there's representation, and then there's overrepresentation -- I don't think different groups should be excluded from media but they shouldn't be 90% of the main characters (looking at you, new star wars) or forcefully inserted where it doesn't make sense (areas which are historically 99.99% white, like historical europe). Political correctness does seem to have shifted to the other side of the equality line though.

Would be curious to know which questions factored into the deceitful-arrogance decision, as I disagreed with most of the "you should fight to get respect" "I am entitled to respect" type questions.


Probably the ones that asked if you'd do things that are dishonest or manipulative if you wouldn't get caught. Those were almost all a hard no from me.



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