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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


There is a particular trend among the alt-right that I have noticed lately.

The West is dead. We are a generation of revenge.


Reclaim what you lost.


Take back what was taken from us.


These are phrases found in "fashwave" motivational images, which are a curious intersection of classical aesthetic and 1980s neon-soaked retro flavor. For a selection of some of my favorites:
https://imgur.com/a/ZBHstMY
Beyond the initial issue of the pre-supposed accusation that something has been pillaged from us, which is not supported in the slightest in these propaganda pieces, there is another issue. The claim itself is not so much the problem as the underlying principles, which betray certain flaws of character. Indeed, something has been taken from these people: their spine.

Behind all of these phrases of inherited glory, there is a creeping insecurity and sense of plaintive wheedling. The method of rhetoric is soaked in self-justification and entitlement. It is right, they attempt to slyly presume, that we should do what we wish to benefit ourselves, because others have victimized us. This is, in other words, the very image of the anti-Semitic propaganda wherein the Jew "cries out in pain as he stabs you", except retrofitted for Aryan sensibilities. It is the "Jewish trick" of calling upon past atrocities in a weak attempt to justify (or simply distract from) current atrocities. It is the method to create brainwashed cannon fodder instead of honorable activists.

To conquer is to be conquered. To use might is to have might used against you. To kill is to die. If you wish to move into the arena of survival, you must be prepared to defend yourself instead of expect to just take from others. There is no right or wrong here; to attempt to conquer while whinging about why it's your right to do so is the ethical equivalent of a child throwing a tantrum. Do what you will, be forthcoming in your explanation and don't try to sell me a line of bullshit about how closely linked you are to the savage, strong-thewed, pillaging, raping Indo-European ancestors that definitely intended whatever benefit they created to be directly passed to you like some kind of trust fund.

Create your own empire. Don't whine like a bitch about how you lost one that was never yours.

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Reclaim what you lost.


Import China men to build up infrastructure and levees.

Kick out China men and pass legislation to ensure they never return.

Get mad when China men return for their piece of the American Dream.

?????

Profit

/rant

Posted Monday by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

this is some whiny shit imo

Posted Monday by poptart!
poptart!
 

I think the victim mentality is at the core of all nationalistic trends. In Russia, you have revanchism and a desire to reclaim Cold War era superpower status and territory. In China, you have a focus on China's century of humiliation and invasion by Western powers (+ Japan) and a focus on patriotism and the party's central leadership.

Posted Monday by Agis
Agis
 

The “take our nation/culture/economy back” rhetoric has always been a thing, especially among nationalists like Agis said. Humans gonna human.

I think this quote is relevant too:

“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

— Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

Posted Monday by pacman
pacman
 

Hermann and the rest of the army intelligence echelon had multiple chances of stopping the Nazi death machine in its tracks but failed to do so. An Utter shame.

great quote though.

Edited Monday by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

The left talks about all day how "minorities" (who make up 90% of world population) are victims of "white supremacy". They praise BLM who all they do is talk about how they are victims.

Indeed, something has been taken from these people: their spine

Woah you sound so tough.

We are not coming at it from a "we are victims" type mindset. We are coming at it from a "we are under attack" wether its unfairness in the judicial system, or being targeted for demographic replacement. Facts being stated isn't "whining". The goal is to show white people what is happening.

Leftists in this very thread have praised the black people in South Africa who are murdering whites, seizing their land, raping and pillaging and attribute it to some sort of deserved ancestral karma.

But when a white points out this same thing is happening to them, its "victimisation".

that definitely intended whatever benefit they created to be directly passed to you like some kind of trust fund. 

"For ourselves and our posterity" is pretty clear.

Edited Tuesday by #85
#85

The left talks about all day how "minorities"


Misdirection.

Woah you sound so tough.


Hypocrisy.

We are not coming at it from a "we are victims" type mindset. We are coming at it from a "we are under attack"


Doublespeak.

Leftists in this very thread have praised the black people in South Africa who are murdering whites, seizing their land, raping and pillaging and attribute it to some sort of deserved ancestral karma.


Personal accusations.

"For ourselves and our posterity" is pretty clear.


Irrelevancy.

I am on the verge of banning you purely out of general quality concerns.

Posted Tuesday by nullfather
nullfather

We are coming at it from a "we are under attack"

I see this fallacy daily on religious forums
Textbook authoritarian personality disorder.

or being targeted for demographic replacement.

Fear threat trigger of the right amygdala to reinforce group adhesion and the us vs them mindset.

Posted Tuesday by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

"I am on the verge of banning you purely out of general quality concerns."

lmao

Posted Tuesday by poptart!
poptart!
 

I am on the verge of banning you purely out of general quality concerns.

Not so fast.

Disagree with him all you want, but the response he gave to this thread exhibits effort beyond that of various other replies and, more importantly, whatever bare minimum would be reasonable to set here at gtx0. It is in fact considerably more valuable than the dubious one and two word dismissals/retorts that you offered back in kind. The "for ourselves and our posterity" quote is a common alt right argument, and one that deserves an actual response. I don't even begin to agree with him, but that's not the point. It is an argument, it is absolutely relevant to your surface level appraisal of the alt right, and if you're actually interested in discussing the topic in good faith you should do much better than your last post. In addition to that, you don't get to start discussions and then just dismiss and threaten to ban people when you don't like what they have to say. We call that bullying, and it is not appropriate behavior.

We can continue to have this conversation in the mod forum, if for whatever reason I've finally managed to convince you to address my concerns. My hope is to come to some sort of consensus that doesn't leave you with the authority to unilaterally nag everyone that posts here whenever they say something that for some arcane reason isn't up to your personal, unknowable standards of conduct.

Posted Tuesday by Famov
Famov
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