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Two more days before shit gets real...I'm hoping that this grinch leak is real. BRING GENO HOME, BABY!

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I want the characters in but I kind of hope it's fake and they get confirmed anyway (or even more). Or I wish I didn't accidentally find out the characters.

All it's missing for me is Bandana Waddle Dee and Travis Touchdown (but Skull Kid and Sora are fine too I suppose).

Posted October 30th by Fox Forever

it would be...okay-ish

All it's missing for me is Bandana Waddle Dee and Travis Touchdown (but Skull Kid and Sora are fine too I suppose).
oh ok I can try asking you then

why do people want bandana waddle dee? Did I pass over (or forget about) a game where he was an entertaining character or something? I've seen him mentioned plenty of times, but never with any context/explanation so I'm curious.

Travis I get and would like, Skull Kid I sorta understand and would be okay with but don't care about, Sora I understand but don't want. But I still feel in the dark on this one.

Posted October 30th by Pirate_Ninja

I think it was just a stand out waddle dee with a bit of personality at first (and cool bandana). At first in some early games he was an incredibly small character (mostly in the minigames). He gradually became one of the characters you can play as in some games. Personally I'd prefer a character that fights with a spear over yet ANOTHER character that wields a sword (I'm a sucker for unique characters). Plus in the Kirby games he has quite a few moves that can easily translate to smash bros (including a helicopter recovery where he spins the spear).

I can't for the life of me understand Geno, really, but it's fine. I find it funny that Geno gets the hype and Mallow gets the shaft. I also can't really understand the Skull Kid hype considering he was only MM like 17 years ago but I wouldn't be against it.

Sora I'm ok with, I think he can work but I'm not dying for him to get in. Some people say Minecraft Steve (lol) which if it could work, Sakurai will find a way. If he got me on board with Isabelle (who I doubted up until she was announced), he'll be able to do it. I trust the man fully.

Edited October 30th by Fox Forever

Really excited to see Boss Baby in smash bros. People have been asking for him since the first game came out.

Posted October 30th by S.o h
S.o h
 

Can't wait to play as Cory Baxter!

Posted October 30th by Cory In The House
Cory In The House
Cory In The House

I can't believe they haven't added in every pokemon yet.

Posted October 30th by Joey Fatone

40 minutes is crazy for a smash direct.. But it is the last minute. Hopefully we get a story mode of some sorts.

I'm callling it on the "leaked" characters from last week



Edited October 31st by ShadowFox08

I still don't get where the Geno hype came from, he had o e major appearance in one game and I doubt there's much nostalgia for him where I'm from (where Mario RPG never cane out originally). I think Paper Mario would be a better representative of Mario role playing games.


So, yes, I want most of the obvious things, Shadow, new Pokémon, a real surprise character, a proper single player mode, levant matches, robust online etc.

A few crazier wants of mine:

- Sephiroth as a new character (plus more FFVII music ffs Square!)
- crash Bandicoot, some proper representation for a western franchise.
- The return of 'Board the Platforms'.
- Proper alternate costumes for every character as future DLC.
- Music from Pokémon Colleseum/XD (deserve more attention!)
- A full original CG opening cutscene.
- A Super Crown item that does 'you know what'.

I don't think Banjo is happening either, Nintendo wouldn't promote an IP that may never appear on their platforms again.

Posted October 31st by Gigashadow

There is definitely going to be DLC, and the point of DLC is to make money. So I could see the likes of Banjo and Sora being saved for that and the rest of the base roster being filled out with the cult classics like Geno, Chorus Kids, Mach Rider, etc. I'm even still banking on Cooking Mama as the 'wtf' character.

I second Gigashadow on Paper Mario. I've never understood why there hasn't been more support for this guy, especially considering how acclaimed (used to be acclaimed?) the series is. I've heard excuses like there are too many Mario reps (looking at you Fire Emblem...) and that he would be too similar to Game and Watch. Both dumb arguments.

Posted October 31st by Bubba
Bubba
 

I've heard excuses like there are too many Mario reps

Well Mario has 8 but FE has 7. I get that it can be too much but what do you expect from the largest franchise. But Pokémon has 9 if you count Pokémon Trainer as 3 fighters. I don't know if the leak can be taken as the final word but if there's another Pokémon rep that will be 10 of them.

Zelda has literally 3 Links, too.

There is definitely going to be DLC

YES definitely! I kinda actually like that that can happen. I know people may view it as "incomplete" if they put DLC in but there's so much content jam packed in here I really feel like it's okay. What's bullshit is when other games purposefully hold off releasing stuff with not much content so you gotta pay for DLC later.

I still don't get where the Geno hype came from, he had o e major appearance in one game and I doubt there's much nostalgia for him where I'm from (where Mario RPG never cane out originally). I think Paper Mario would be a better representative of Mario role playing games.

I kinda feel this way. I have no idea where it came from but tbh I think I'll be fine with it if he's in. I would prefer Paper Mario though if given the choice.

A few crazier wants of mine:

Not bad. I wouldn't be opposed to Pokémon music. Some really good suggesti--

- A Super Crown item that does 'you know what'.



Posted October 31st by Fox Forever

It's not like I'd expect those transformstions to be rupe 34!

BTW I'm not opposed to Banjo, it would feel nice though a little sad if there no hint of him actually having a Nintendo release again.

I've put my feeling on Reddit and some of the Grinch leak believers didn't take kindly to them!

Posted October 31st by Gigashadow

I frequent the Smash reddit. Ignore a lot of those people there. Many of them are up their own ass about things. As long as you're not trashing what other things people want they shouldn't be ripping into you. My "no" post is meant to be a bit of an exaggeration, honestly. I made a post about something before and got ripped into. I've been a smash fan since the first game and have gotten every smash since Brawl on day one, but some individuals there treat you like you're a noob off of the street. Meanwhile they have no idea what Pokémon come from pokeballs or what assist trophies or any items do. The main smash reddit is unfortunately a "non-casual" place. You'll find many haters who loathe the fact that there's "normies" around for the hype train.

Also, for the record: I don't think I'd see too much of a problem with the crown, but I just don't want it to be fodder for all the people who do draw the big rule 34 things.

Posted October 31st by Fox Forever

idc about Geno but he's not a bad choice, I guess. Never cared much about him but he's unique enough.

Sephiroth as a new character
ugh god please no. If we were pulling from 7, bring Tifa as a brawler or Cid as a lancer.

(plus more FFVII music ffs Square!)
100% this...or the entire series, really. Battle on the Big Bridge, the Exdeath battle...gibe songs pls


also: one new FE character is more than enough already nintendo don't even fucking think about it

Posted October 31st by Pirate_Ninja

ineant to be able to play as the care-free Jamaican cinnamon stick named CinnaMon. From the apple jacks brand of cereals! Come on Kellogg’s!

Edited October 31st by Brandy

=Also, for the record: I don't think I'd see too much of a problem with the crown, but I just don't want it to be fodder for all the people who do draw the big rule 34 things.

When it comes to such things, I'd say designers shouldn't worry about such things. Nothing will stop horny young artists doing Rule 34 about anything. They don't need encouragement or discouragement, it'll happen.

Posted October 31st by Gigashadow

Squall and Cloud know it's hip to be Square.

Posted October 31st by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

I still don't get where the Geno hype came from, he had o e major appearance in one game and I doubt there's much nostalgia for him where I'm from (where Mario RPG never cane out originally). I think Paper Mario would be a better representative of Mario role playing games.

Yeah that super mario rpg game is the only game he's been, IIRC. But for some reason he's been a hugely requested since before smash 4 came out. And it seems like Sakurai is making a lot of dreams come true with this game... Ridley, Dark Samus, K Rool, Simon Belmont, Isabelle... Were all requested in the ballot.. As well as Issac, Banjo, and Shadow. Anything is possible.


Maaan.. worst part of this direct is that I can't watch it in real time. I got work at 8, so I'll spend time traveling there while its happening. And then I'll be busy for all of work... I won't be able to watch it until late night. I wonder if I should save myself from the internet till then.

Posted November 1st by ShadowFox08

also: one new FE character is more than enough already nintendo don't even fucking think about it


It's not enough until they add Micaiah in. Then they can stop.

Edited November 1st by KnokkelMillennium

Maaan.. worst part of this direct is that I can't watch it in real time.


Nintendo Directs are always when I'm at work or after I've gone to bed, this one is sadly no different :(

But i'll be home a couple hours after it ends so guess I won't have to wait too long to watch it ^_^

Posted November 1st by Moonray
Moonray
 

There's a Geno Min costume in smash 4 also

Posted November 1st by ShadowFox08

Hype is dead. Fuck Sakurai. Fuck Paranha Plant. Fuck Nintendo.

Posted November 1st by MSS
MSS
 

Tempted to dedicate a Reddit post to all the Gtinch leak truthers with just a rasping emoji but I'll rise above it.

I wonder how many people went from 'Spirits sucks' to 'Spirits is the BEST' by the end?

I'm glad they were able pull the rug from under everyone with Piranha Plant.

My inner teenager with his moderate edhelord tendencies is frying about Shadow (but won't let anyone see him do it).

GameXplain more or less nailed their prediction for that Ken/Incineroar trailer.

The Smash Ultimate theme is now my favourite in the serie.


Posted November 1st by Gigashadow

Would have preferred straight up Petey, but I'm excited for Pirhana.

Posted November 1st by Bubba
Bubba
 

I expected to be let down, but I still expected to get some sort of cool/surprise announcement...then we got piranha plant...

Posted November 1st by MSS
MSS
 

I can't help but agree with some people that it feels weird to get characters like Isaac, Spring Man, and Shadow deconfirmed but they put a Piranha Plant in. Lmao.

I wasn't getting my hype up for them but having them as assist trophies makes me feel worse a bit, not gonna lie. I'll trust Mashed Potato Samurai though.

Edited November 1st by Fox Forever

also: one new FE character is more than enough already nintendo don't even fucking think about it

Just you wait for DLC. They have a new game to push next year. The timing will be perfect.

Petey has been something an in-joke between me and my friends since we were teenagers playing Double Dash. I'm happy to see him in whatever form he takes, and Piranha more generally looks like he'll be interesting to try out. I am more than happy with the reveal.

Posted November 1st by Famov
Famov
 

if they're going to tell me that XC2 was too new of a game for Rex/Pyra to be an option, and then pull Corrin 2.0 out of their asses, I'm going to lose my mind

Posted November 1st by Pirate_Ninja

if they're going to tell me that XC2 was too new of a game for Rex/Pyra to be an option, and then pull Corrin 2.0 out of their asses, I'm going to lose my mind

I'd say as DLC maybe but then he included the costumes of at least Rex so I'm not as sure. Kinda silly that Greninja and Corrin came out before the games were released but they got in. Not sure who the other 5 characters will be but I hope it's promising.

I'm actually super hyped for that World of Light though. The spirits things taking place of Event Matches seems fine as well.

Posted November 1st by Fox Forever

a driver with no blades is just as insulting as a boxing pop idol with no extending ribbon arms

Posted November 1st by Pirate_Ninja

While going through the Smash Reddit I happened to run into our old Smash moderator soursurfer. How awesome!

Posted November 1st by Fox Forever

Someone from yoshi’s island joins the fray!

Edited November 1st by Weidman
Weidman
 

Okay, my DLC desire

- a new Sonic character, Tails or Dr. Eggman
- a new Square character, Sephiroth or Sora
- Crash Bandicoot
- Skull Kid
- Paper Mario

Posted November 1st by Gigashadow

I second Eggman, Crash, and Paper Mario

Posted November 1st by Jahoy Hoy

Sora is owned by Disney, so I’d say that’s more of a longshot than Banjo.

Posted November 1st by MSS
MSS
 

Not completely impossible, they did allow him in Worlds of Final Fantasy.

Would stool him as more likely than Banjo at least.

Posted November 1st by Gigashadow

eggman and maybe skull kid I can get behind, otherwise no thanks


watch eggman gets released as free DLC, as a Bowser Jr echo

Posted November 1st by Pirate_Ninja

Some have pointed out that they specified 'paid dlc' for new fighters. Think we might get echo fighters as free updates?

Posted November 1st by Gigashadow

Think we might get echo fighters as free updates?

I think I would've preferred the $6 packs as 1 original character, 1 echo fighter, 1 stage, and some music. I don't mind echo fighters, really.

Posted November 1st by Fox Forever

they created the "echo fighters" branding, but I feel like they haven't done all that much with it so they might well toss another couple our way. The direct specifically said that the paid DLC characters they're promising would not be echoes (which makes sense, as they wouldn't feel as worthy of the price tag as totally unique ones). So I think it's a solid possibility we could get some free DLC echo fighters, but certainly not a guarantee. Kind of a "would like it and would not be surprised if it happens, but won't feel super disappointed if it doesn't" deal.

Posted November 1st by Pirate_Ninja

It's pretty cool that we get a wrestling character at last.

However, this final roster reveal felt very underwhelming.

I get Piranha Plant being a character because Sakurai has had at least one troll character per Smash installment. (Pichu, R.O.B., etc.)

Still, disappointing. Here's hoping the DLC lives up to our hopes and dreams! And I still think this will be the greatest Super Smash Bros. to date. I'm betting on either Geno or Sora from Square Enix. (Square Enix owns the rights to Sora, not Disney, by the way.) I also want Banjo-Kazooie, but who knows.

Posted November 1st by Laxan
Laxan
 

LOOOL at the direct. Not what I was expecting at all. Not sure how to feel. Ken and Incinroar were leaked by somebody weeks ago, but nobody believed, including me.. We all wanted to believe in last week's snap chat leak. They look like solid characters.

Spirit mode sounds a bit convulted. Reminds me of brawl stickers. I'm gonna miss collecting trophies too. Adventure looks kind of interesting.

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with the roster, and no doubt I"ll download this game soon.

The DLC will be interesting, and crazy to believe if the last one we'll get is in feb 2020 maybe. I'll be 32. /: Rex and Pyra are definitely possible as dlc characters me thinks. Mii fighter costumes do not debunk the possibility of coming in as dlc characters at all. Remember, we got inklings, king k rool, chrom, isabelle as mii costumes in smash 4 on wii u. And inkling outfits are still wearable in this game too.

Posted November 2nd by ShadowFox08

I don't think these underwhelming feelings concerning the roster would be quite as prevalent if Nintendo would have staged the announcements better. Why would you end on a 7th gen pokemon and a echo fighter? A heavy hitter like Simon or King K Rool would have made for a more exciting announcement.

Posted November 2nd by Bubba
Bubba
 

Disney owns Sora.

Posted November 2nd by MSS
MSS
 

Not completely impossible, they did allow him in Worlds of Final Fantasy!

Is any one here good using Microsoft excell
?

Posted November 2nd by Brandy

I don't think these underwhelming feelings concerning the roster would be quite as prevalent if Nintendo would have staged the announcements better. Why would you end on a 7th gen pokemon and a echo fighter? A heavy hitter like Simon or King K Rool would have made for a more exciting announcement.
yeah, I said something to this effect right after it ended. I thought the people expecting ~7 characters at the last minute were asking way too much, and I personally thought 2-3 was more likely. But they ended on two of the least interesting choices when tons of people were looking forward to long-requested picks like Isaac (whose assist had been noticeably absent all this time) and Geno. Instead we got Extremely Predictable Echo and Yet Another Pokémon (plus hints toward several popular characters not being potential DLC).

liking Incineroar after he was leaked/announced is one thing, but how many people wanted him before that? They should've saved either K. Rool or Simon/Richter for an exciting finish, since those are actually fulfilling popular requests.

adding in a generic Mario enemy (poor waluigi) at the last second only made it worse. Honestly, I think Piranha Plant looks pretty neat in terms of design, but that was definitely not the time to reveal him.

Posted November 2nd by Pirate_Ninja

liking Incineroar after he was leaked/announced is one thing, but how many people wanted him before that?

Admittedly I am grossly ignorant of most Pokémon past gen 4. Pearl was the last one I played back in the day. I eventually want to play the others at some point but remembering 700 kinds of Pokémon just seems intimidating. People talked about Incineroar and I had no idea who it was. But after watching the treehouse footage he looks like an interesting character I'd like to try. At this point one of the most consistent things is to expect 1 new Pokémon every smash game. Potentially also a "past" one also.

They should've saved either K. Rool or Simon/Richter for an exciting finish, since those are actually fulfilling popular requests.

Agreed. K. Rool would've brought down the house, I think.

adding in a generic Mario enemy (poor waluigi) at the last second only made it worse. Honestly, I think Piranha Plant looks pretty neat in terms of design, but that was definitely not the time to reveal him.

Also agreed. It maybe should've been revealed in the beginning of the direct first. Saying stuff like "this character (Waluigi) wouldn't work so we didn't have him be a fighter" and "here's a fighter, it's Piranha Plant" just feels kinda like there's a disconnect. Clearly there was a disconnect here because just about anyone I ever listened to said "WHAT?" in disbelief while feeling somewhat sad that their preference didn't get included. Sure it looks fun but I wish they could've gone for more representation of other IP's compared to just doing a rep in one of the most populated series in the game.

Also now that I think about it, this game only got 2 new universes (and 2 returning ones). In the last game there was at least 5 added that I can think of (pre DLC). I thought this game would explode with 3rd party reps but they just added 1 (+1 echo).

I'm still grateful for what we got but it just doesn't feel as well handled to keep the hype train going. I am much less hyped this week compared to last week now. I would've much preferred the Brawl days where we got 1 new interesting thing per day so we get drip fed that way. I remember having a friend make a comparison that if you got a drug (smash bros) it's better to take a little per day to work off your hype rather than them throwing everything at you at once and then waiting just about 3 months to give another amount of information.

Posted November 2nd by Fox Forever

Incineroar is one of the most well known Pokémon of the recent generation especially in Japan. It's prominent in the anime and was even in the movie last year. The Pokémon Company like having recent generation Pokémon added to every game they always have. Melee added Pichu, Brawl was Lucario and 4 was Grehinja. They really aren't looking at pleasing old fans exclusively.

Posted November 2nd by Gigashadow

I’m disappointed that Sakurai brought back clones. He TOLD US that he wouldn’t. He used up six character slots which he could have easily done so to choose other characters that everyone wants or at least to alter their movesets (seriously why bring Dark PIt and Samus when there already is one character iteration of it, meaning one normal character for it)? I hope he brings downloadable content back to the game, if he gonna do this to help compensate for what he DIDN’T BRING into the game? Could have had more Mario and Zelda characters and possibly more star Fox ones like Krystal. And in all honesty I would have been impressed if they brought king boo into smash instead of piranha plant. And more importantly we needed more third party characters.

We’re getting downloadable content again this time too correct?

Posted November 2nd by weid man

Interesting details that weren't in the Direct:




Edited November 3rd by Gigashadow

piranha plant is way cooler than waluigi. it's a plant with teeth like on little shop of horrors. it looks fuckin sick. waluigi just looks like a pedophile

Posted November 3rd by poptart!

Til short fat men with mustaches look like pedophiles. RIP.

Posted November 3rd by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

no that's mario and wario

waluigi is skinny as shit and probably close to seven feet tall except he never stands up straight

Posted November 3rd by Pirate_Ninja



Edited November 3rd by Famov
Famov
 

til tall skinny men with mustaches look like pedophiles. RIP.

actually I agree

Posted November 3rd by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

I think Waluigi is going to be a shoe in for DLC, considering the high demand for the guy.



Check out that video^^^ Classic mode got a lot more interesting now. Every player fighting in classic mode has its own themes.. like playing as Ryu will make you fight in flat stages and in stamina mode.

I'm gonna miss trophies. RIP

Posted November 3rd by ShadowFox08

So I haven't really been keeping up with a single bit of Smash Ultimate information this entire time. I just looked up the roster.... what the fuck is happening

Posted November 4th by Speed Bike Pro

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Life. Therefore, I am in Need for Speed UNDERPANTS!

Vandy don’t you dare tag my response. Especially since a&m gave auburn a ten point **** yesterday with under five minutes left since auburn scored two touchdouches during that timeframe and lost. You realize that speed attended auburn and that they won the Bcs title game eight years ago right? He went to every one of their home games.

To make this in topic I am happy that the boss from world 3 in yoshi’s island made it into ultimate. BITE MY DINK OFF!

Edited November 4th by Weid man
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