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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


So, I've been watching a ton of Star Trek, and it makes me think, what the fuck happened? What happened to that spirit of hope and optimism we used to have? The desire to continue existing, and exploring? It seems like all I see these days is pessimism. "HURR DE DURR HUMAN EXTINCTION BY 2100." Like, come on. Are you telling me you're just going to give up? Roll over and die? Frankly, I feel like the whole "WE'RE NOT GONNA BE AROUND IN X YEARS!" is a pretty selfish attitude. Burden future generations with debt to get what YOU want now, because fuck them, right?
That attitude is often accompanied by people with this played out, Agent Smith attitude about humans being a virus or some shit. In my experience, people who espouse this attitude are usually pretty shitty, neurotic people who can't seem to get their life together.


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Posted April 1st by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

It isn't cool. Decades of pop-culture indoctrination - with things like Star Trek being the outliers - has taught us that optimism about the human condition generally and the future specifically just isn't cool, and that smart, canny people are cynical, depressed, or mean. And frequently, though not always, the people espousing these attitudes are attempting to conceal that their own lives are falling apart.

Anyway, you're not wrong. But Star Trek was an outlier *because* Gene Roddenberry was a raging socialist (albeit one with a generally pro-Western outlook) and believed that a better future was possible.

Posted April 1st by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

Burden future generations with debt to get what YOU want now, because fuck them, right?

Yes, this what we are doing and why we are doing it.

Star Trek gave us an idealized humanity that had transcended the worst aspects of its nature. That will never actually happen, but we could still do worse than to emulate the spirit of Roddenberry's creation. When it's good, and it isn't always, Star Trek can be the best that television has to offer.

Edited April 2nd by Famov
Famov

Because Futurism is dead, it's no longer the 1960s, and the fall of the Wall ushered in not the End of History but a new age of cynicism.

As Pink says, irony (or, to put it more accurately, its generous application) is seductive, and sincerity requires a bit of vulnerable exposure on the part of the proponent, and, you know, work.

Posted April 2nd by Arch
Arch
 

Also worth pointing out that in Star Trek they literally had to survive various things that were described as the worst moments in human history to get where they were (mass poverty, a nuclear war, etc)... So maybe we're right on course after all :)

Posted April 3rd by Moonray
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