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Otimistic Nihilism and why Cloud Strife had it right at the start of FF7
Posted: Posted June 30th
Edited June 30th by I killed Mufasa
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Basically, worrying about global problems is a complete waste of mental energy for the common citizen. The common citizen is 1. Not responsible for the global problem. 2. Not capable of fixing the global problem. and 3: Will likely be dead before the global problem is ever resolved. Cloud is more worried about the roboguards and security, and completing his mission so he can get paid so he can move on to more important things like teasing Tifa and Aerith.



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I have to ask this: Did you ever finish Final Fantasy VII? Just curious!

While I can get behind "Think local not global", I can also get behind FF7's other message of taking down a corporate empire. I actually believe corporations are the new religion of our world, always trying to brainwash us into believing that wearing a suit and putting on a fake smile while we the many slave away for the few will lead to true happiness as we take that big corporate cock in our asses over and over until the day we die.

So yeah, I completely fall in line with Barret's plight to take down a mega corporation known as Shinra by even "terrorist" means. Fuck 'em. Fuck all of them for treating human lives like a resource rather than actual human beings. Ever wonder what the real meaning behind a Human Resources department is? The name is pretty self explanatory--a deceitful facet that would be called HUMANE Resources if it really meant what corporate cocksuckers around the world claim it means.

Corporations are one of if not THE root of many problems in this world. After nearly ten years serving our corporate overlords, I'm going to spend the remainder of my life fighting their obsolete capitalist models and all the excessive greed that has plunged humanity into the unjust system we're forced to adhere to. I hope that these fucking protests snowball into an attack on corporations before it's all over. Fuck every one of them whom never lifted a finger to be of valuable use to society, which is clearly the majority of them.

Posted June 30th by Laxan
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I hope that these fucking protests snowball into an attack on corporations before it's all over.


Yeah, it has been made far too much into white vs. black, with protestors doing stupid shit like marching through suburbs when they should be burning office buildings.

Project Mayhem, mother fuckers.

Posted June 30th by Party Smasher
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I think going after corporations and other global problems is a waste of your mental energy. You're gonna be here for like 60-80 more years if you're lucky and you're never gonna see the planet heal. In fact the planet probably won't heal until humans go extinct. Feeling guilt about such things is a waste of mental energy too. You didn't consent to your life starting, you probably won't consent to your death, and it's not your fault that our species are parasites.

Edited June 30th by I killed Mufasa
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You didn't answer my first question asking whether or not you finished FF7. I'm inclined to think that you haven't, though. :)

I don't feel guilt over the state of our planet or society nor do I particularly care if my existence was of my own volition. All that matters is I'm here now and I'm in control of my life until the day I die. And some things are worth my mental energy because some things are worth fighting for. Injustice. Corruption. These are things worth fighting against on all fronts. To lie down and let such evil continue without at least some effort on my part to oppose it would make me no better than a coward. I have to believe such things are worth fighting against because I believe in the goodness of most people. People need something to believe in, be it religion (even though I don't believe in that myself) or the good will of mankind. That's what makes life worth living. And I also believe in pushing forward no matter how hard things get. I believe in never losing myself in the face of despair. That's my dearest advice to you and everyone elsel: Never give up, especially on who you are. Never--

"Bah! You sound like chapters in a self-help booklet!"

-Kefka

Ah, yes! The musings of a nihilistic madman! Forgive me for being forward, but I'll refrain from taking the rantings of a villainous fool seriously. As should you.

Be strong. Never give up on who you are. That's all I have to say on this matter.

Posted July 1st by Laxan
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+1 Like to Laxan's reply.

Edited July 1st by Moonray
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I think going after corporations and other global problems is a waste of your mental energy. You're gonna be here for like 60-80 more years if you're lucky and you're never gonna see the planet heal. In fact the planet probably won't heal until humans go extinct. Feeling guilt about such things is a waste of mental energy too. You didn't consent to your life starting, you probably won't consent to your death, and it's not your fault that our species are parasites.


I am going to continue to talk shit about soulless corporations and try to stymie abusive sociopolitical practices for as long as I live, thank you.

Cloud had it partially right at the beginning of FFVII in that he was a mercenary who did what his job took. He just had very little direction, though it is cool that he stayed with and helped out his childhood friend.

Barret was ENTIRELY right, however. Bomb Shinra resources. Kill Shinra mercs. Assassinate Shinra heads. Barret took the most direct route to fighting an enemy. Even if Shinra never fell, it would still be worth his time to waste Shinra resources and make them fear the people they were enslaving.

Because the other option is being a fucking CUCK.

Posted July 1st by Party Smasher
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I am going to continue to talk shit about soulless corporations and try to stymie abusive sociopolitical practices for as long as I live, thank you.

That's your right, and all the power to you. But other people don't have to join a mob mentality affiliated with your line of thinking. You get your several decades on this planet and you're free to dedicate them to whatever you want. Don't steal that choice from other people though.

Even if Shinra never fell, it would still be worth his time to waste Shinra resources and make them fear the people they were enslaving.

Because the other option is being a fucking CUCK.

Nah, being a cuck is succumbing to people who call you names because you won't embrace their ideology. Cloud has the right to look after himself and his own problems.

You didn't answer my first question asking whether or not you finished FF7.

I've not. But also, Cloud isn't a common citizen. And the plot of FF7 would be pretty boring if Cloud embraced Nihilism, became a farmer, and was still the main character.

Barret was ENTIRELY right, however. Bomb Shinra resources. Kill Shinra mercs. Assassinate Shinra heads. Barret took the most direct route to fighting an enemy. Even if Shinra never fell, it would still be worth his time to waste Shinra resources and make them fear the people they were enslaving.

If you waste your whole life resisting something that won't be successfully resisted during your life time, then you're still a slave. You're a slave to the resistance. Your entire life was spent in...wait for it....strife... when it could have been spent up in the clouds thinking about your own ideas, imagination working on art or writing. I think someone who ignores the resistance has a happier life than someone who dives head first into it.



Edited July 1st by I killed Mufasa
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But other people don't have to join a mob mentality affiliated with your line of thinking.


They don't have to, but they should.

Cloud has the right to look after himself and his own problems.


Which he only manages to separate from the political issues of Midgar and the wider threat to the planet through cognitive dissonance and cynicism.

Shinra literally created both a monster and a technology that were going to destroy the world. The survival of literally every living thing on the planet depended on stopping Shinra and undoing their works.

Posted July 1st by Party Smasher
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They don't have to, but they should (join a mob mentality)

Groupthink/hivemind just results in a bunch of zombies following an equally corrupt charismatic resistance leader who will fill the power vacuum and leave all the people who fought besides him poor and powerless again. The people in the current movement only know how to destroy, they aren't creating a better world. So unless you're willing to immediately guillotine the resistance leader after you win and move back into proper democracy it's pointless.

If you disagree then you'll be out with the mob throwing molotovs and toppling statues you don't know the history of, instead of debating with me online.

Edited July 1st by I killed Mufasa
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Groupthink/hivemind just results in a bunch of zombies following an equally corrupt charismatic resistance leader


I didn't advocate for a hierarchical revolution, so this is all irrelevant. Thanks for the response, though.

The people in the current movement only know how to destroy, they aren't creating a better world.


A blade for the throat of tyrants creates a better world.

Posted July 1st by Party Smasher
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