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Its sold relatively well. And the first year was more or less amazing with some 3rd party support. But as of right now though... this year has been a relatively dry year and the reemergence of the Nintendo curse is showing more now than ever. (the curse being weak console+ promises of third party support = limited 3rd party support because of said weak console)

There are some very promising titles on the horizon that will be system sellers and will have a strong attach rate. But if nintendo does not get their shit together and port over some much needed 3rd party titles or introduce a working virtual console than I dont think the Switch ship will survive another year or two in its current state.

It boggles my mind that the 3ds has a multitude of 1st and 3rd party titles but the Switch is barely getting by. They really need to change the focus from their aging handheld to their new one.


Any Who. I dont regret purchasing a Switch just yet but I was expecting them to continue their wave of success well into this year.

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The Switch overall is a very good console, that is only really being held back by some weird decisions on Nintendo's part.

"But as of right now though... this year has been a relatively dry year and the reemergence of the Nintendo curse is showing more now than ever. (the curse being weak console+ promises of third party support = limited 3rd party support because of said weak console) "

I have to disagree that this year has been relatively dry and with limited 3rd party support. Here is a list of games coming to the swtich in the next few months and most are from 3rd party devs:

May 2018:

Battle Chasers: Nightwar (THQ Nordic, £34.99, May 15th)
The Banner Saga (Stoic, May 17th)
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition (Nintendo, May 18th)
Die for Valhalla! (Monster Couch, £8.99, May 29th)
Little Nightmares: Complete Edition (Bandai Namco, May 18th)
Mega Man Legacy Collections 1 and 2 (Capcom, May 22nd)
Runner3 (Nicalis, May 22nd)
PixelJunk Monsters 2 (Q-Games, May 25th)
Yoku's Island Express (Team 17, May 29th)
Ikaruga (Nicalis, May 29th)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (Capcom, 'May')

June 2018:

Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn (Saber Interactive, June 5th)
Flashback (Microïds, June 7th)
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido (Nintendo, June 8th)
Mario Tennis Aces (Nintendo, June 22nd)
Lumines Remastered (Enhance Games, June 26th)
Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus (Bethesda, June 29th)
​Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy (Activision, June 29th)
Trailblazers (Supergonk, 'June')

July 2018:

​Octopath Traveler (Square Enix, July 13th)
​Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Nintendo, July 13th)
Lego The Incredibles (Warner Bros, July 13th)
Sonic Mania Plus (Sega, July 17th)

August 2018:

Dead Cells (Motion Twin, 'August')
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate (Capcom, August 28th)

Here are some games that are coming:

First-party Nintendo games with no release date:

Bayonetta 3
Metroid Prime 4
New Fire Emblem
New Yoshi game
​Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion
Super Smash Bros. Switch

Third-party games with no release date:

1001 Spikes (Nicalis, TBC)
7 Billion Humans (Tomorrow Corporation)
Arena of Valor (Tencent)
Ash of the Gods (Aurum Dust)
Ark: Survival Evolved (Wildcard, late 2018)
Away: Journey to the Unexpected (2017)
Balloon Fight (NES - Nintendo Switch Online subscription, 2018)
Battle Chef Brigade (Adult Swim Games, 2017)
Battle Chef Brigade (Trinket Games / Adult Swim)
Battle Princess Madelyn (Causal Bit Games, 2018)
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (Inti Creates, TBC)
Constructor (System 3, TBC)
Cube Life: Island Survival (Cypronia, TBC)
Dandara (Long Hat House, 2017)
Diablo 3 (Blizzard, according to Eurogamer sources)
Disgaea 1 Complete (NIS America, Autumn 2018)
Dr. Mario (NES - Nintendo Switch Online subscription, 2018)
Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix)
Dragon Quest Heroes I and II (Square Enix, TBC)
Dragon Quest X (Square Enix, TBC)
Dragon Quest XI (Square Enix, TBC)
Dragon: Marked for Death (IntiCreates)
Duck Game (Adult Swim Games, 2017)
Earth Atlantis (Pixel Perfex / Headup Games, autumn 2017)
Earth Atlantis (Pixel Perfex)
Enter the Gungeon (Devolver Digital, 2017)
Fallen Legion: Rise to Glory (NIS America)
Fear Effect Reinvented (Sushee / Square Enix)
Firewatch (Campo Santao)
Flipping Death (Zoink!, 2017)
Floor Kids (MERJ, winter 2017)
For The King (IronOak)
Graceful Explosion Machine (Vertex Pop, TBC)
Guardians of the Galaxy (Telltale Games)
Harvest Moon: Light of Hope (Nasume)
Hollow Knight (Team Cherry, 2018)
Hover: Revolt of Gamers (The Sidekicks, 2017)
Hyper Sentinel (Heuy Games)
Indivisible (Lab Zero, 2017)
Inside (Playdead)
Kentucky Route Zero: TV Edition (Cardboard Computer / Annapura Interactive, early 2018)
Kingdom, Two Crowns (Raw Fury Games, 2017)
Light Fingers (Numizmatic, early 2018)
Minecraft: Story Mode - The Compete Adventure (Telltale Games, TBC)
Moonlighter (Digital Sun)
Mom Hid My Game (Kemco, 2017)
Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom (FDG Entertainment, 2017)
Morphies Law (Cosmoscope Games, 2017)
Mulaka (Lienzo)
My Time at Portia (Team17)
NBA Playgrounds 2 (Saber Interactive, 2018)
Necrobarista (Route 59)
New 'Tales of' RPG (Namco Bandai, TBC)
New Shin Megami Tensei 5 (Atlas)
Next Up Hero (Digital Continue / Aspyr Media, early 2019)
Night Trap (Screaming Villains)
Nine Parchments (Frozenbyte, 2017)
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-05-11-nintendo-switch-games-list-2018-release-dates

Posted May 11th by Q
Q
 

the reemergence of the Nintendo curse is showing more now than ever. (the curse being weak console+ promises of third party support = limited 3rd party support because of said weak console)


I disagree. The console still appears to be attractive to 3rd party publishers. I knew, even before reading Q's list, that there are a lot of 3rd party games "on the way" and publishers who have expressed interest in releasing on the console.

I also don't think it being "weak" really matters. The Wii was "weak" but it sold extremely well. The Switch is "weaker" than the other two main consoles but it makes up for that by being portable.

There are some very promising titles on the horizon that will be system sellers and will have a strong attach rate. But if nintendo does not get their shit together and port over some much needed 3rd party titles or introduce a working virtual console than I dont think the Switch ship will survive another year or two in its current state.


We already know there are games on the way and Nintendo still has series that it hasn't announced for Switch yet (like Animal Crossing) that are sure to sell well.

Also specifically this:

But if nintendo does not get their shit together and port over some much needed 3rd party titles


That has nothing to do with Nintendo. That's why they are "3rd party titles". It's entirely on whether those developers or publishers want to spend the money porting their game over. There isn't a lot Nintendo can do here other than keep putting out their own games to keep the console sales going. (But as noted, there seems to be plenty of 3rd party support).

It boggles my mind that the 3ds has a multitude of 1st and 3rd party titles but the Switch is barely getting by. They really need to change the focus from their aging handheld to their new one.


It depends on whether Nintendo intends for the Switch to be their new handheld or whether they consider it a console that doubles as a handheld. There is advantage to having a smaller (more portable), weaker (cheaper), console on the market and Nintendo may end up just bringing out a new handheld to replace the 3DS eventually.

That said, some of the games coming out on 3DS were likely in development (in some form) prior to the Switch release and not everyone has a Switch. It's no different from how we still got 360 games for a while after Xbone came out, or xbox games for a while after 360 came out. There is a transitional phase and Switch is still young.

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As for my own personal opinions. I still love it. I already have more games for it than I had for my Xbone (which I sold a few months ago due to lack of use) and with things like Smash and Pokemon on the way I foresee plenty more usage of this console.

When I look at it's first year, I don't see a massive amount to get excited about. There was just a lot of hype around this cool new Nintendo console and a lot of cheer because they were doing well after the Wii U days but beyond that it was actually a fairly weak launch only propped up by Zelda jumping on the open world bandwagon. So I don't really see what's different about this year VS last year other than it's gained the attention of 3rd party publishers because of its successful first year on the market. So it's actually in a better position.

As noted, I love my Switch and I'll keep using it as long as they and other publishers keep putting out games I want to play, which is more than I can say for Xbox this generation.

Edited May 11th by Moonray
Moonray
 

The Switch has a very strong library. There's at least a dozen 1st and 3rd party games that I am remotely interested in already out, and half a dozen more by the end of summer, but I will only end up buying a handful because I don't have the time to play and beat them all.

In terms of AAA 3rd party support, its getting there slowly. We'll see the support it gets this fall. 3rd party developers are noticing profits and building back trust from the wii u era and supporting switch more by the month.

What I really dislike about the switch is how barebones it is, mainly in online functionality. I can get used to friend codes, but its still a step back, not to mention no messaging friends(wii u version was a pain to do so though), a voice chat app over the phone instead of a centralized voice chat, no miiverse, etc.. which is pretty ridiculous. Like how could they take two steps back from wii u?

Posted May 12th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

I have to disagree that this year has been relatively dry and with limited 3rd party support. Here is a list of games coming to the swtich in the next few months and most are from 3rd party devs:


I disagree with your disagreement. While the Switch has third party support in the form of indies/ smaller studios its lacking third party AAA support. There are some exceptions yes but these last 5 months alone have been embarassing imo.

They have had no heavy hitters released in the last few months. And strain is starting to show.

Third-party games with no release date:

This has been a reoccurring theme with nintendo. While I am certain that the first party games with no release date will eventually launch in the future I cant say the same for third party games with no release date. I am expecting half of those titles to never see the light of day.

and the lack of major third party AAA titles on that list is extremely disappointing.

I also don't think it being "weak" really matters. The Wii was "weak" but it sold extremely well. The Switch is "weaker" than the other two main consoles but it makes up for that by being portable.


It sold extremely well because of the gimmick of motion controls and it being one of the most family friendly systems of that time.

If you look at the sales by year they drop significantly 3 years after release and continued to fall. People got over the fad of motion controls and the crappy shovelware games that make up a good chunk of the library didnt help.

I do believe portability trumps motion controls but as it stands the Switch is extremely barebones. and the E-shop is a night mare to navigate through. I will also like to add that very soon the Nintendo Switch will go down the same path as the Wii when it comes to shovelware types of games. At launch Nintendo was really good when it came to quality control but I dont believe that will be the case as we continue forward on the Switchs lifecycle. (there are some questionable e shop titles already and these will continue to grow)


As noted, I love my Switch and I'll keep using it as long as they and other publishers keep putting out games I want to play, which is more than I can say for Xbox this generation.

Dont get me wrong I like my switch plenty. But as it stands it starting to look like a portable indie machine with the ability to play 1st party nintendo games. And while this isnt a bad thing per-say I dont need another indie machine in my life (hello aqua blue vita)

I guess I was expecting a little bit more from the Switch. But like you mentioned its still a relatively young console with a lot of room to grow so only time will tell how successful it will truely be. End of the day Im just salty that the dark souls release date was pushed back.

Posted May 12th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

To be fair, a lot of the multiplat third party games we've gotten have been +1 year old ports. A lot of them have sold fairly good.

The eshop has been too bad to navigate for me. I just enter the title on the search bar, but I can see what people mean.

Posted May 13th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

Disappointed with how long it's taking to release more Fire Emblem information!

Posted May 13th by Speed Bike Pro
Speed Bike Pro
 

disappointed with Fire Emblem

Posted May 13th by Pirate_Ninja
Pirate_Ninja

disappointed with Fire Emblem


Impossible. You must have just one of the overhyped games that most new people have played but are overhyped. (or one of the other not as great games).

This is a sin. Do nothing else until until you have played an FE game you are not disappointed with. I personally recommend the tellius games on GC and wii.

Being disappointed with FE wholly should be illegal.

Edited May 13th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

To be fair, I thought Fates was just a complete pile of dook. Could never finish any of the storylines because they were all so bland.

Posted May 13th by Speed Bike Pro
Speed Bike Pro
 

Oh ya it's definitely pretty weak there. But oddly enough that may not just be due to the incompetence of the new people working on it. I heard that a shitload of the intended story was actually cut from the game. Like, I've heard it was like around 70% of it. So that would explain why it felt like a whole lot of nothing at least.

Edited May 13th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

As far as the Switch being weak, I do not think this is true. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe proves the Switch is capable of physically based deferred rendering at 1080p 60f. The Switch is capable of running a lot of UE4's higher-end features. Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle is another stunning display of the Switch's technical prowess. And from Zelda: Breath of The Wild we already know the system can handle open world fairly well. It is at least twice as powerful as the Wii U.

The things the Switch cannot handle are certain luxuries in realtime gaming: volumetric fog, dynamic indirect lighting, etc. But it can handle precomputed indirect or straight dynamic lighting, reflection captures, PBR, etc.

The next two big leaps for gaming graphics in the near future are dynamic indirect lighting and raytracing. Raytracing can provide us pixel-perfect reflections, lighting, and shadows for the whole world in an organic way that perfectly captures the world in view. Dynamic indirect lighting will allow light to properly illuminate spaces with a changing sun or many dynamic objects. These are the biggest hurdles facing gaming graphics in the future. Thankfully, no gaming consoles are up to the task just yet, even though a few top-of-the-line PCs certainly are.

In any case, the Switch is decent enough for good graphics in terms of widespread support. To my knowledge, there is nothing crippling about it.

Posted May 14th by mariomguy
mariomguy

It is at least twice as powerful as the Wii U

this power is still relatively weak when compared to base versions of its competitors who in their own rights struggle to run 3rd Party AAA titles.

this lack of power will cripple any and all AAA 3rd party support.

Im hoping on wrong.

Posted May 14th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

The only time a third party will deny a console is if it's lacking enough power for fundamental features. If the current version of a game can easily be scaled down and ported to another platform, publishers would gladly do so to gain a bigger audience. If it becomes a hassle to replace features with other more compatible options (like, say, a mobile game), then it will become an overwhelming task to port it.

Since the Switch is capable of PBR deferred shading, the same basic pipeline used for the PC version of any modern game can also be ported to the Switch. At the very least a port IS possible without requiring a dramatic overhaul to the entire rendering system.

Considering games are now trying to target 4K... well, anything that can run 4K on a competitor console will definitely run 1080p on the Switch for sure.

Posted May 14th by mariomguy
mariomguy

There's 1080p titles that struggle to run on th switch at lower resolutions though. Doom for instance dips down to 15_20 fps in some crazier action sections from what ive been told.

Posted May 14th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I don't necessarily regret it, but I do wonder if it's just going to suffer the same fate as my Wii and Wii U and fall by the wayside in the middle of its life cycle. I already haven't touched it since January (after getting burnt out on BotW) and I probably won't again until something like Metroid comes along. I like how the Switch functions in general, and it's definitely been a step in the right direction (even if dropping the touch screen option was odd to say the least). But I'll always favour third-party titles for PC and PS4, and the stubborn pricetags Ninty stick on their games really do prevent me from wanting to branch out or buy something I'd otherwise play, like MK8 or Splatoon 2.

Posted Thursday by Orion Nebula
Orion Nebula
 

“I like how the Switch functions in general, and it's definitely been a step in the right direction (even if dropping the touch screen option was odd to say the least).”

Im confused, the Switch does have a touch screen. Do you mean how most games don’t use that feature?

Posted Thursday by Q
Q
 
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