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Some remarks:
Cloud saves confirmed! Only for subscribers.
Free NES games with added online play for subscribers.
The service will launch with 20 games, with new games added regularly. Launch titles include:
Soccer
Tennis
Donkey Kong™
Mario Bros.™
Super Mario Bros.™
Balloon Fight™
Ice Climber™
Dr. Mario™
The Legend of Zelda™
Super Mario Bros.™ 3

The previously announced price of $20 yearly is for individual users. Other accounts on your Switch won't be able to use online services.
if you want to share your subscription with other accounts (either on the same console or different ones) you can buy a family plan for $35 yearly.
Assuming there are no other restrictions, Nintendo Switch Online can be as low as $4.38 a year if you find 7 other people, form a Nintendo Account Family Group, and split the costs. (Thanks Wario64 for pointing this)
Voice chat will still require the mobile app.




https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-switch-online-new-info-cloud-saves-20-nes-games-family-plan.41010/

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official PR statement:

REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nintendo’s upcoming Nintendo Switch Online service is an affordable, multi-featured paid service that lets users enjoy online play for compatible Nintendo Switch games, access classic NES games with added online functionality, back up save data for most games and use additional features for the Nintendo Switch Online smartphone app that will enhance the online experience for compatible games.

Nintendo revealed more information about Nintendo Switch Online, including pricing, Save Data Cloud backup and additional details about the classic NES games subscribers will be able to play when it launches in September.

U.S. Pricing: Various price points offer a variety of affordable options for different players.
Individual memberships:
One month: $3.99
Three months: $7.99
12 months: $19.99
Family membership (12 months): $34.99
With a family membership, up to eight Nintendo Account holders will be able to use the Nintendo Switch Online service, even on different systems.
Nintendo Entertainment System – Nintendo Switch Online: Subscribers will have access to NES – Nintendo Switch Online, a compilation of classic NES games. The collection will initially include 20 games, with more added on a regular basis. At launch, previously announced games Balloon Fight, Dr. Mario and Super Mario Bros. 3 will be joined by Donkey Kong, Ice Climber, The Legend of Zelda, Mario Bros., Soccer, Super Mario Bros. and Tennis. An additional 10 launch games will be announced in the future.

For the first time ever, players will be able to enjoy these classic NES games online. Depending on the game, players can engage in online competitive or co-op multiplayer, or take turns controlling the action. Friends can even watch each other play single-player games online, and “pass the controller” at any time. Every classic NES game will support voice chat via the Nintendo Switch Online smartphone app*. It will also be possible to play these games offline.
Save Data Cloud Backup: By using Nintendo Switch Online, a backup of Nintendo Switch save data for most Nintendo Switch games will be stored online for easy access. This is great for people who want to retrieve their data if they lose, break or purchase an additional Nintendo Switch system.
Online Play: A Nintendo Switch Online membership will be needed to participate in co-op and competitive online features for many current and upcoming Nintendo Switch games, such as Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, ARMS, Mario Tennis Aces and Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido.
Nintendo Switch Online App*: The Nintendo Switch Online smartphone application can be used to enhance the online experience for compatible games through voice chat and other features.
*The Nintendo Switch Online app is for Nintendo Account holders 13 years old or older. Persistent internet access and compatible smartphone are required. Data charges may apply.

Posted May 8th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

Yay for cloud saves.
Dunno if we get to keep those nes games, but its nice to have online features for them.

Having to rely on a smart phone app for voice chat still is a big step back though. Makes sense for handheld mode, but not for docked. Really really stupid. ugh

Posted May 8th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

What seems really stupid is having to pay extra to play games online in the first place. I know other consoles do it but it's stupid. I'm glad that doesn't happen on PC.

Posted May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

What seems really stupid is having to pay extra to play games online in the first place. I know other consoles do it but it's stupid.




I'm glad that doesn't happen on PC.


It definitely doesn't happen to the extent that it does with consoles, but there are games like World of Warcraft that have monthly subscriptions and games like Team Fortress 2 that require passes to play in competitive mode.

In fact, I pay monthly for a Minecraft Realms server so my friends and I can play Minecraft online together.

Edited May 8th by nullfather
nullfather

The other consoles also give you a bunch of games every month to make up for it. Im pretty sure the value of those games after 6 months far surpasses the cost.

Im not really conflicted. this is the cheapest online option. And theres a possibility games of other generations may be included. Totally down for that.



Posted May 8th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

the real thing to be upset about is the voice chat. wtf nintendo.

Posted May 8th by S.O.H
S.O.H
 

Yeah, I don't get how they went a step back with voice chat and online in general. I can tolerate friend codes, but I can' even message friends and now have to deal with an app. Hopefully the friend messaging thing gets updated.

Anyway, in regards to the VC games. They're basically rentals. You can play them as much as you want as long as you have the subscription.

Posted May 8th by ShadowFox08
ShadowFox08

“What seems really stupid is having to pay extra to play games online in the first place. I know other consoles do it but it's stupid. I'm glad that doesn't happen on PC. ”

Not every game is free to play online on pc. And as soh pointed out, you get 4 games a month with Xbox live, and 6 with PSN (until next year where it drops to 2), so really you make your money back in the value of the games they give you.

Edited May 8th by Q
Q
 

Obviously, but that hardly seems relevant when ANY game you play on the console will require you to pay extra. At least you have choices on pc too. If nothing else you can find a very similar game to what you're looking for with less bullshit if it's popular enough. It may not be very good but playing on pc means you have these options in the first place. That can't be said for consoles that do this.

Plus there are a great many games on pc that can be played online for free.

so really you make your money back in the value of the games they give you.


Not really. That would still be money lost. I mean I could pay that but out of principle I guess I would refuse to because I find it ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as loot boxes and shit. And before anyone says otherwise, nintendo doesn't need to do this, they're doing this to make even more money.

Sure you can go all "it's their product so they can do what they want with it" but that doesn't mean I have to think it's a good idea or that I'm going to pay for it if I get a switch. I guess my main problem is that they're making it this way for all games on the console. There can be no free online games.

Edited May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

“It may not be good but playing on pc means you have these options in the first place. That can't be said for consoles that do this. ”

Pc always gives you more options, but it lacks a unified online structure for all games and services like consoles have.

“Not really. That would still be money lost”

True you will spend $60. However if you look at the cost of every game released for free on Xbox live in 2017 the value was $1,029:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/2/16717854/xbox-games-with-gold-free-games-2017-value-analysis
And the value of PSN free games was $1,287
https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/2/16727700/playstation-plus-free-games-2017-value-analysis
I’m not sure but shelling out $60 for over $1000 worth of games is a good return.



Posted May 8th by Q
Q
 

Pc always gives you more options, but it lacks a unified online structure for all games and services like consoles have.


Well that's okay because it's not like they need one.

I’m not sure but shelling out $60 for over $1000 worth of games is a good return.


Sure good deals and whatnot but I don't see that lasting forever anyway. Though I admit I haven't touched newer consoles so does it let you CHOOSE which games you get? Because imo that's the only way it's worth it. Otherwise you could easily end up with a lot of shitty games no one cares much about.

Another thing is, do you have a contract of any sort? Do you HAVE to pay for it or can you cancel out out at any time and keep the games? That also seems somewhat important.

Aside from that, the switch's plans don't seem to have anything that would make it appealing to me.

Edited May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

You can pay for a month , 3 months, 6 months or a year subscription.


I dont think you can cancel a year subscription as its prepaid but if you're paying monthly (which is stupid as its expensive as fuck) you can cancel

I can't speak for the Xbox one or Microsoft but you can't play the games once your subscription runs out for the ps4.

Also define shitty games. I feel such a term might be subjective based on tastes. Are they pumping out games like troll and I for you to download? No. They are pumping out quality stuff almost every month the most notable for me being mgs v and blood borne (theyve done other major AAA exclusives but these are the ones I can remember) while not shitty I know a few ppl who didn't like that specific selection because they were either not into tje souls series or had already played them.

Posted May 8th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I agree the switch plan isn't appealing. The only decent subscription is microsofts imo. 4 free games per month????.

Posted May 8th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I dont think you can cancel a year subscription as its prepaid


I assumed the 60 could be paid monthly but good to know.

Also define shitty games. I feel such a term might be subjective based on tastes


It is, but I mean there are a lot of games that come out that most don't even hear about, notice, or cares about. It's not to say they can't be good but chances are most people won't like them. If you end up a lot of those instead of games you choose then there's a problem. But really I'd rather just take the games individually and play free online in general.

Posted May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Then play on pc lol.

Posted May 8th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Sure good deals and whatnot but I don't see that lasting forever anyway. Though I admit I haven't touched newer consoles so does it let you CHOOSE which games you get? Because imo that's the only way it's worth it. Otherwise you could easily end up with a lot of shitty games no one cares much about.


No you don't get to choose. It's true that some of the games are not games you want. But it also can expose you to games that you would otherwise not buy that you may end up really liking (Sunset Overdrive for me). And I can't speak for PSN but there are a lot of quality games given on Xbox. Dead Space 2 and MGS V in the past two months. Dead Space 1 was given months ago. I believe almost every Assassin's Creed game has been given. Halo 3 was given a long time ago.

Not to mention that I don't pay for Xbox Live. I do daily bing searches that can be turned in for Xbox credit and a subscription. So cost is not really an issue if you are able to spare 5 minutes a day to search on bing.

Posted May 8th by Vandy
Vandy

If you'd really care to scan Knuckles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games

That's every game from the beginning. I own practically all of them (minus the first 6 or 7 for XB1 because I didn't own it at the time). Plus I do bing rewards so often I actually haven't paid for XBL in like 4 or 5 years. So I get all those technically free.

Just since this year:

360:
Tomb Raider: Underworld
Army of Two
Split/Second
Crazy Taxi
Brave: The Video Game
Quantum Conundrum
Cars 2: The Video Game
Dead Space 2
Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage

XB1:
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing III
Zombi
Shadow Warrior
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: India
Superhot
The Witness
Assassin's Creed: Syndicate
Super Mega Baseball 2

Coming in a week: MGSV & Vanquish

EDIT: Forgot to say this but I know not all of those games are "choice games" (Cars 2, Brave, Zombi). That's just what has been released. Imo 48 possible games per year being $1.25 each if you don't play online feel worth it. Plus the price hasn't changed much since XBL began. I think it was $50 per year back in like 2002 when it started and now it's $60 or so. Plus mostly you can still find XBL deals where they'll sell you a year subscription at discounted rates (sometimes even half).

Another thing is, do you have a contract of any sort? Do you HAVE to pay for it or can you cancel out out at any time and keep the games? That also seems somewhat important.

Well it depends how long you buy. I don't think you can buy a year and cancel after a month to get your money back for example. If you cancel it you get to keep all the games (because once you "buy" them for free they're YOUR games). You can still have a silver account (basically can access the store and buy stuff) where you can redownload any and all games, even if they have been delisted on the marketplace (assuming they never disconnect servers, etc. like they've done for the wii).

Edited May 8th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

I believe almost every Assassin's Creed game has been given.

Assassin's Creed II
Assassin's Creed III
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (both Xb360 and XB1)
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: India
Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

That's a good chunk of them. They're really just missing 1 and Brotherhood for all main games from 2007-2013.

Not to mention that I don't pay for Xbox Live. I do daily bing searches that can be turned in for Xbox credit and a subscription. So cost is not really an issue if you are able to spare 5 minutes a day to search on bing.

Exactly. And if you wait for them to go on sale for bing rewards you can buy about 2 years worth with little effort.

Posted May 8th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

Then play on pc lol.


They still have exclusive titles.

No you don't get to choose.


And that is instantly a problem for me.

If you'd really care to scan Knuckles


Okay so they aren't just throwing every game that exists on the console in there even though some of those games fall into the "shitty" games I was describing before. That's better but still the lack of choice doesn't really appeal to me.

Imo 48 possible games per year being $1.25 each if you don't play online feel worth it.


Doesn't for me but you do you I guess. I'd rather just get the ones I want.

Posted May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Well I mean would it really make sense that you get to choose from any game? Or would say 4 different choices of games to choose from per month work better (or like 1 choice out of 4)?

Doesn't for me but you do you I guess. I'd rather just get the ones I want.

Well like I said I haven't actually paid for XBL in like years but I still get the benefits.


Posted May 8th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

Well I mean would it really make sense that you get to choose from any game?


No considering it's a gimmick to get people to be fine with paying for it but eh. I'd rather just buy the games I actually like and play online free as I said.

Edited May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

I'd rather just buy the games I actually and play online free as I said.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you're a person who is more selective and just likes a few games I'd say that's the better choice for you. As for me, I like too many games, so I get lots of value out of the program.

Posted May 8th by Fox Forever
Fox Forever

“The only decent subscription is microsofts imo. 4 free games per month????.”

2 X1 games and 2 X360 games. And since all X360 games released on GWG since BC was introduced back in 2015 are playable on X1 that gives you 4 free games a month for 1 system.

Edited May 8th by Q
Q
 

Pc always gives you more options, but it lacks a unified online structure for all games and services like consoles have.

Well that's okay because it's not like they need one.


A lot of games tend to use Steam for online these days unless and Valve seems willing to work with others to make services have cross-play for games not bought in Steam (they have some sort of arrangement with GoG for example).

It's only the big AAA companies who are trying to shove their crap online services on us... Seriously, two Battlefronts in and we still can't host our own matches just because EA wants us on their servers... I miss GameSpy!

Posted May 8th by Moonray
Moonray
 

A lot of games also aren't steam exclusive but eh. So long as it's free.

Posted May 8th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium
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