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Movies Watched: 2019
Posted: Posted February 3rd by Jet Presto
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Figured it was about time to update this thread, so here it is: the thread to talk a little about all of the movies you've watched in 2019! Doesn't have to be just films that released in 2019. Could also be older films you've never seen before, or just ones you re-watched.

I haven't been able to get out to a theater this month, which sucks. (I saw 29 movies in theaters last year, and I really wanted to hit 30 this year, but there just isn't a ton out right now that I really want to see.)

I did, however, watch both of the documentaries about Fyre Festival. I thought they were both good companion pieces. I dunno that I'd say one is clearly better than the others. The Hulu one occasionally has the filmmaker shouting questions from off camera, and I kind of hate that in documentaries. But the Netflix one has fuckjerry as one of its producers - fuckjerry is one of the companies that promoted Fyre Festival and has a history of stealing other people's content for ads. So there's a little bit of an inherent legitimacy question to it. (Of course fuckjerry is going to want to play up that "they're victims too." They helped the fiasco happen, even when it was clear it was all a scam.)

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Saw Into the Spiderverse. It was good. I was slightly annoyed by the handwaved plot devices (which they even lampshaded), but the intricate and powerful visual style was a sight to behold.

Posted February 3rd by nullfather
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I've been rewatching MCU movies.

  • I Rewatched Guardians of the Galaxy. It was very good, in fact a lot better than I remember vol 2 being (which I also rewatched recently).

  • Rewatched Age of Ultron because we had a thread about that earlier. As I remembered, this is definitely the weakest avenger's movie. It's actually pretty weak for a marvel movie in general (though not as bad as hulk), though as with all avengers movies, the villain was great.

  • Rewatched Ant-Man. Still my top #1 or #2 MCU movie -- has the best humor imo, an interesting mythology, characters that are flawed without being heavy-handed about it (okay, characterization isn't usually the MCU's strong suit).



  • Posted February 4th by Xhin
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    Sky's the limit

    supposed to go see Into the SPidererse tomorrow

    Posted February 4th by tnu
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    Just got back from The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part. And I think I might have liked it even more!

    Posted February 10th by Jet Presto
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    Dr. Strange is easily my favorite part of infinity war. As a result I decided to research his origin film. I enjoyed it more the second time around. I still don't think Benedict cumberbatch was the fit for the role but I enjoyed his performance. Outside of the visuals and ending the film doesnt do anything new or impressive. It is an okay / decent marvel film but nothing to write home about. It did peak my interest in Doctor Strange though. If any one could recommend a comic or graphic novel I'm game to read it.

    So far favorite MCU heroes are Captain America>ant man= doctor strange

    Posted February 13th by S.o.h.
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    Started this year strong with Hirokazu Kore-eda's Shoplifters (we're not counting When Harry Met Sally... overrunning at NYE). Won the Palme d'Or, deservedly. Mesmerising and affecting, I'd certainly watch it again. My usual cinema has a Kurosawa season on at the minute, so definitely following up with some more Japanese cinema as and when.

    Watched The Killing of a Sacred Deer a few weeks ago. Idiosyncratic doesn't really begin to describe it, and it nails a sense of palpable tension through delivery alone. I'm beginning to appreciate Yorgos Lanthimos's canon, despite having not seen The Favourite yet.

    Watched Annihilation for a second time. It suffered upon repeat watching. Whilst I love the concept, and some of the ideas are somewhat executed (the end sequence is great), it takes a very long time to fulfil any vision it might have had. "Painting by numbers", as my gf said.

    Dragon Ball Super: Broly was ten-outta-ten deebeezee material, easily the finest animated Dragon Ball production we've seen (and rivals a lot of other feature anime), and one of the most gleeful nostalgic cinema experiences I've ever had.

    Bros: After the Screaming Stops is probably next on the list.

    Edited February 14th by Arch
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    So far this year I've seen (for the first time):

    Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
    Roma
    Mamma Mia 2
    Searching
    A Simple Favor
    Jacob's Ladder
    Dismissed
    Handsome (that Netflix movie)
    The Meyerowitz Stories
    The Polka King
    BASEketball
    The Man Who Knew Too Little
    The Farm

    Watched a second time or more:
    Black Dynamite

    Movies I stopped watching part way:
    Brick

    Watching tonight: Velvet Buzzsaw

    I'm sure I watched more movies on Prime but I can't find a way to access the history on there.

    Edited February 14th by Fox Forever
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    Was lucky enough to see a screening of They Shall Not Grow Old. The mountain of effort put into restoring such old film was incredible; it's an absolutely mesmerizing documentary that left me quite emotional. I'd just been in Wellington a couple months beforehand, and had visited Peter Jackson's Great War Exhibition (which, sadly, has now closed). The man's passion for that time in history is undeniable, and I hope this documentary fills the hole that his museum left behind.

    Posted February 15th by Orion Nebula
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    Jacob's Ladder


    Good movie, man. I knew someone who raved about it for years before I finally broke down and watched it. Not what I was expecting at all.

    Movies I stopped watching part way:

    Brick


    I liked brick, but it's definitely in the drama genre, not action / psychological thriller / whatever it's billed as.

    I rewatched some more MCU movies. Thor: Ragnorak was great, Gotg2 is definitely worse than Gotg, Ant-man and the wasp is horrible (oh my god that movie is the most contrived pile of plot garbage -- the villains are more omniscient than the purple guy with 5 infinity stones), infinity war remains great on multiple rewatchings.

    Posted February 15th by Xhin
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    Good movie, man. I knew someone who raved about it for years before I finally broke down and watched it. Not what I was expecting at all.

    Yeah I wasn't expecting what was happening at all. While watching it I was thinking how much it felt like "The Evil Within" (game) and I checked it up later only to find out that the director of the game was inspired by the movie. I call them "head thrillers".

    I liked brick, but it's definitely in the drama genre, not action / psychological thriller / whatever it's billed as.

    I didn't dislike it and yeah it felt like a 40s gumshoe movie stuck in the 00s which is somewhat odd. Kids do not act this way. I had to do something else and I never went back to it. If I do I may restart it all the way over.

    Posted February 15th by Fox Forever
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    I managed to watch Mary Poppins Returns. Figured I should given how much I love Emily Blunt and Lin Manuel Miranda. I gotta say, it was actually pretty fun! Not as memorable musically, and obviously unnecessary a follow up to the original Mary Poppins. But, I thought it was fun. Don't have a lot to say about it, just that it was a good time.

    Posted February 15th by Jet Presto
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    Ant-man and the wasp is horrible

    I will fight you. Easily one of the better MCU films.

    Posted February 15th by S.O.H.
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    I don't think it's horrible. But I don't think it's better than a lot of the MCU films. It's better than the 2 Thor movies and the Hulk movie and maybe Iron Man 2 but I don't think it's better than it's first one or any Captain America film.

    Posted February 15th by Fox Forever
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    Eh its better than cap 1, doctor strange, and bp imo.

    Posted February 16th by S.O.H.
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    I didn't dislike it and yeah it felt like a 40s gumshoe movie stuck in the 00s which is somewhat odd. Kids do not act this way. I had to do something else and I never went back to it. If I do I may restart it all the way over.


    Oops, I was thinking of Blue Ruin. Brick is a way different movie.

    Overall I liked Brick, but then I do like Neo-Noir movies in general. If you're not a fan of those you're going to get bored quick. Having it be set in modern times with kids is somewhat genius as well.

    I will fight you. Easily one of the better MCU films.


    Dude, Ant-Man is probably my favorite MCU movie of all time. I love the characters and concepts in Ant Man & The Wasp. The characters and concepts are *NOT* the problem, the problem is the contrived way the plot fits together, how the villains somehow always know exactly where to be at all times, the unnecessary tension when they go to rescue Janet.

    Also Ghost was a paper-thin character. Freaking Sonny was a better character with more convincing motivations.

    Posted February 16th by Xhin
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    Eh its better than cap 1, doctor strange, and bp imo.

    I actually like all of those better than Ant man and the wasp. Cap 1 is probably one of my top 3 MCU films.

    Posted February 16th by Fox Forever
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    Also Ghost was a paper-thin character. Freaking Sonny was a better character with more convincing motivations.


    Her trying to find a cure for herself is not convincing enough? what the fuck.

    Posted February 16th by S.O.H.
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    I just finished watching Ant Man & the Wasp on Netflix!

    Posted February 16th by Cetasaurus
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    Formerly KM8

    Watched Velvet Buzzsaw on Netflix. Was odd. I didn't think it was great, personally. From the director of Nightcrawler, I think. To me kind of read as a not-so-subtle-not-so-interesting-one-note commentary on the art community plus camp-but-not-quite-camp-enough-to-be-camp half-satire-but-not-particularly-witty-or-funny horror-y movie. Interesting idea, though. I didn't think it was awful.

    Also saw Entertainment with Neil Hamburger/Gregg Turkington. I don't think it's a very new movie. Was also odd, mostly just sad after sad after sad. I guess it's supposed to be art house. I get the impression that the patheticness of the main character is supposed to be palpable, as is the darkness, the emptiness, juxtaposed to in-poor-taste jokes. But it just didn't seem to give anything for me to walk away with, as far as realizations or musings or anything.

    Want to add that it's very possible I'm missing something. Haven't seen a lot of films in general.

    Patch of Fog (also not a new movie) is great if anyone's seen it.

    Edited February 16th by Ophelia
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    Her trying to find a cure for herself is not convincing enough? what the fuck.

    If you're trying to find a cure for yourself why the fuck would you antagonize the people most capable of helping you?

    Posted February 16th by Xhin
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    Sky's the limit

    If you're trying to find a cure for yourself why the fuck would you antagonize the people most capable of helping you?


    Because they *weren't* helping her. That was sort of the point. Bill Foster was Hank Pym's partner and Bill was literally the only one willing to help.

    I loved Ant-Man and Wasp for various reasons. I do think they ruined a lot of the good visual gags in the previews, though. I dunno that any Marvel movie has suffered poor trailers quite like both Ant-Man movies. Kinda ruin the best jokes.

    Posted February 16th by Jet Presto
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    Jet said iy best.


    I didn't watch any of the trailers. I know for the first ant man I had a specific throw down ruined for me in one of those TV Spot ad things. I would have lost my shit if I jad scene that throw down in the movie forst. Fuck you ESPN.

    Posted February 16th by S.o.h.
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    I also hate a lot of trailers and previews. Especially the ones on Netfkix (that automatically play when you're reading the description and thinking about it).

    Previews for comedies like Ant Man are probably the worst, since they want to put the funniest jokes and gags in. But it makes you miss out on seeing them fresh and in the context of the movie.

    Posted February 16th by Agis
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    I caught Glass on Friday.

    1st two acts were great. The third act fizzles out a bit. It was a good time I was shocked that the theater was so packed though.

    Posted February 18th by S.O.H.
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    Whoa. I managed to make time for TWO movies this week!

    Saw CAPTAIN MARVEL. Really liked it! Not the best movie ever. Could *possibly* be a top 5, on the edge there, for a few reasons. But would depend on the day. Definitely a top half of Marvel movies for me. Was a good time, I thought. Fun, sci-fi adventure flick that had a few cinematic components I quite liked, a solid sense of humor, and made some actually really rad changes from the source material that made it better (in my opinion). Was a good example of how to change from the comics to make for a better film.


    But the one I want to rave about is APOLLO 11. It's a sort of documentary about the Apollo 11 mission to the moon. It's all told through archival video and audio footage. No narration. No information. It's just a sort of condensed way to experience the whole trip, and I really cannot say enough about it. It was such a gripping film to watch. The soundtrack was incredible. And ugh. It was just great.

    Posted March 13th by Jet Presto
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    Captain marvel is on the lower mid tier range for me.

    I enjoyed it more than black panther and doctor strange.

    When it comes to the more recent stuff

    Infinity war> ant man 2> Spiderman > CM =DS>BP

    One day I'll create a list of my rankings for the mcu. But not this day or any time soon. Kudos to you for rewatching them.



    Posted March 13th by S.o.h.
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    I watched THE FAVOURITE.

    I dunno what I expected, having seen the Lobster. Really well acted, interestingly shot, but definitely intense.

    Posted March 17th by Jet Presto
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    I caught US last weekend. What an unsettling film. I liked it more than Get Out.

    Posted April 4th by S.o.h.
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    Yes, Us was better than Get Out. It moved faster as a movie. The only thing I'm tired of is people saying it's a "horror film" when it's more like a thriller film with humorous elements.

    Posted April 4th by Fox Forever
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    "if you want to get crazy" "we can go crazy"

    family proceeds to rush him

    GOLD

    I had to suspend my disbelief for a good chunk of the movie but Ill be damned if I did not enjoy every second of it.

    It is my favorite "Horror" movie right after "IT"



    Edited April 4th by S.O.H.
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    "Alexa, call the police"

    "Playing 'Fuck tha Police'"

    Posted April 4th by Fox Forever
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    I caught Shazam last night. I really enjoyed it. Of all the 15+ comic book movies that have been released since the MCU Hulk movie this one has the most heart out of any of them. It is not the perfect comic book movie. But it is a fun ride.

    Pretty crazy how WW aquaman and Shazam are turning the DCCU around. I come from a very minor camp that loved Man of Steel.

    But If I had to rank the comic book movies in general for my top five it would prob be:

    Winter Soldier
    Man of Steel
    Dark Knight Rises (TDK is the superior movie but man I like this one more. Something about the opening sequence, Bane, and batman coming back after being in Hiatus really make the movie for me)
    Spider Man (Tobey Mcguire gang gang)
    Infinity War

    DD Season 3 and Punisher Season 1 as an honorable mention

    Edited April 21st by s.o.h.
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    Also saw Shazam. I liked it, and thought it was less of a mess of a film as Aquaman, but I enjoyed the visual spectacle of Aquaman more. I had...some problems with Shazam. But overall, it was a fun time, and Zachary Levi was great. (And I always love me some Mark Strong.) The visual gag in the air above the city was one of the funniest bits. In some ways, Shazam kind of was Deadpool for children. Was neat to see them make a superhero movie wherein it just sort of assumes the audience knows the tropes and can play with that.

    Posted April 22nd by Jet Presto
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    Into the SPider-Verse and I thinkt hat's it.

    Posted April 22nd by tnu
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    Just watched John Wick. Good movie. Hyped for 2 and 3.

    Posted April 22nd by Cruinn-Annuin
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    I forgot 3 is coming out. Happy you liked the movie! Ome of the best action m movies.

    Posted April 22nd by S.oh.
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    I have seen trailers of movies I want to see. I have seen no evidence of funds with which to see them.

    Posted April 24th by chiarizio
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    Avengers: Endgame

    It’s definitely up there on my top favorite. 10/10

    Captain Marvel’s cool. Going to see her movie next. I also want to see Tolkien and Dark Phoenix.

    Edited May 4th by Castrael
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    I saw Happy Death Day 2 U - Excellent. It wasn't as great as the first, but it was still an awesome movie.

    I also watched a lot of giallo movies and I saw most of Soledad Miranda's movies. Her presence is so compelling, but my favorite performance was in She Kiled in Ecstasy. Vampyros Lesbos was good too, but not as gory as She Killed in Ecstasy. She has done quite a number of movies, but she shines with Jess Franco who could either make really interesting or really bad movies.

    Edited May 4th by Jubei
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    I saw Happy Death Day 2 U - Excellent. It wasn't as great as the first, but it was still an awesome movie.


    I’d like to read more.


    I also watched a lot of giallo movies and I saw most of Soledad Miranda's movies. Her presence is so compelling, but my favorite performance was in She Killed in Ecstasy. Vampyros Lesbos was good too, but not as gory as She Killed in Ecstasy. She has done quite a number of movies, but she shines with Jess Franco who could either make really interesting or really bad movies.


    More about this, too.
    You do realize both the actress Soledad Miranda and the filmmaker Jesús Franco passed away a while ago? He went in 2018; she died in 1970.





    Edited May 6th by eldin raigmore
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    I think it was Jesus Franco.

    Posted May 6th by chiarizio
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    I rewatched End Game yesterday. It was great seeing it on the big screen but I still think Infinity war is the better movie.

    Posted May 6th by S.O.H.
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    Just saw Detective Pikachu today. It was a lot of fun! I mean, I'm not the biggest Ryan Reynolds fan, so your mileage might vary depending on that aspect (I like him just fine, but him perpetually playing characters that never shut up is...not the best, in my opinion).

    I think, and I know it means nothing, really, it is hands down the best video game movie.

    Posted May 22nd by Jet Presto
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    I think, and I know it means nothing, really, it is hands down the best video game movie.


    I am happy to hear that. I still think resident evil aftermath is the best video game movie.

    Renolds

    I find the guy to be annoying

    Posted May 22nd by S.O.H.
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    See, that's the thing. I don't think he's annoying in the proper doses. But it's like since Deadpool blew up, he's only gonna be the guy who won't shut up. In an ensemble piece or as a secondary character, he's totally fine.

    Posted May 22nd by Jet Presto
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    Black materia

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    John Wick 3 was perfectly adequate. I loved the first hour, but the story really meandered once he left New York, and some of the fights were drawn out waaaay too long (the final fight being the biggest culprit, compounded by the fact it was the least interesting fight in the entire film). Gotta hand it to everyone involved in the choreography though, because no other other action movie quite reaches this series' sheer creativity and flawless execution in that regard. There's a knife brawl early on which had everyone flipping out in my cinema, including myself.

    While I do find the lore super interesting - and I like how they're gradually expanding on different sections of it with each instalment - the narrative really does take a back seat to it now, and I'm finding myself kinda missing the simplicity of the first John Wick. Even the character himself is starting to feel less of a character, and more of a vessel for that world.

    Posted May 23rd by Orion Nebula
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    Why is Endgame not on everyone's list?

    Posted May 23rd by Q
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    Why is Endgame not on everyone's list?

    Well I only watched it the other day.



    Posted May 23rd by Fox Forever
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    Why is Endgame not on everyone's list?

    Because I unwatched it by clearing my mind of that filth.

    Posted May 23rd by I killed Mufasa
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    long live the king

    Probably because there was a whole other thread about it that got a lot of posts. I dunno how other people use this thread, but I try to dedicate my posts here to the movies that probably won't generate a whole lot of discussion.

    Posted May 23rd by Jet Presto
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    Also, apparently the director of John Wick 3 is from my town. So weird.

    Posted May 23rd by Jet Presto
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    I’d like to read more.

    About Happy Death Day 2U - The horror genre is full of disappointments. Most of the time, the movies are defined by the desire to profit off the success of the first, much better movie, a masked slasher, and not a lot else. Sometimes there are good sequels, but for the most part you go in expecting the plot to be a repeat of the original. In Happy Death Day 2U, that's exactly what happens - a girl named Tree is being pursed by a masked killer, she's stuck in a time warp, and keeps waking up after he kills her.

    Even with high expectations I wasn't let down.It was entertaining, inventive, and it makes you care about the main character. The only difference between this and the first is that Tree is transported to another day but she's still reliving the same day till she can unmask the killer (again) or find a way out of the dimension.

    More about this, too.

    Hmm. Jesse Franco is one of the most prolific filmmakers of lesbian movies.

    He's also one of the most prolific filmmakers of all time with around 160 films he's produced. When his movies are good, they're a perfect example of surreal Euro-exploitation cinema. When his movies don't work, they're unwatchable and it's the reason why he's got a reputation as a lousy filmmaker. Since he's produced so many films, it's not surprising that he's made a lot of awful movies, but he's also produced some gems and Vampyros Lesbos and She Killed In Ecstasy are among them.
    Soledad Miranda gave a dazzling performance in both of these films. Vampyros Lesbos is basically a lesbian retelling of Dracula. That's the best way I can describe it. Both of the films have some WLW elements, but in She Killed in Ecstasy it's just a few scenes but the tension is palpable, and it's a revenge movie about a woman making it her mission to get revenge on the doctors who prevented her husband from furthering his stem cell research, thus driving him mad, culminating with his suicide.

    Soledad then goes on a murdering spree, using a knife to stab them. It's not too graphic. The kills would be lame, but Soledad is nude during all those scenes. In fact she's nude for like all of the film hehehe.


    Posted May 23rd by Jubei
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    Thanks 🙏, @Jubei:!

    Posted May 24th by chiarizio
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    You're welcome. The first time I saw Vampyros Lesbos was back in 2013 and it was also the first Jess Franco movie I ever watched. I didn't become a Jess Franco junkie immediately after viewing it, but it was like a gateway into his movies that lead me to more of his films later on. He really shines when he's working with Soledad Miranda and I'm glad Vampyros Lesbos was his first film that I watched since it encapsulates everything I like about him. Vampyros Lesbos or Lorna the exorcist would be the best movie of Jess Franco to start with since they show highlight his essence perfectly.

    Of the two, I'd pick Vampyros lesbos since it has one of the best sounds ever made. Furthermore, the fact that Soledad Miranda's wearing such hot outfits throughout the film helps.

    Btw, in Happy Death Day 2U Tree's transported to another dimension where has to live the same day over and over. The killer isn't the same person in this one. It was a gutsy move to make the sequel based on the plot being the same as the first but it pays off in this one.


    Posted May 25th by Jubei
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    Saw Booksmart. I really liked it! I thought it was very touching and funny. Was a really good time. Everyone in it was so great.

    Posted June 11th by Jet Presto
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    Since I have a temporary HBO subscription I watched "Isle of Dogs" yesterday with my wife. We both really enjoyed it. It's unlike anything I have ever seen before. Highly entertaining.

    Posted June 11th by Fox Forever
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    Just watched Blade Runner: Final Cut and Blade Runner 2049 back to back. The original remains a masterpiece. Need to watch 2049 again, but I'm generally very positive on it.

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    Gave it a couple of days and then watched 2049 again. It's a great movie. I've seen a lot of people talking shit about it. Those people are retarded.

    Not for casuals. Extremely dark, extremely provoking.

    I've seen people complaining that there are no Asian leads in the movie. These people are being completely tone-deaf and ignorant of the overt racial commentary that's already happening and which shoehorning in Asian leads would have muddied.

    Edited June 15th by Cruinn-Annuin
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    I've been working my way through the X-Men films, all of which I passed on when they originally came out. Initially, it was in preparation for Dark Phoenix since the premise seemed interesting (as well as to familiarize myself with the characters in case of an eventual MCU adaptation), though I've since learned that a) the film isn't considered very good and b) this isn't even the film series' first take on the exact same storyline. My exploration has been limited to the ones that I have easy access to, so thus far I've only seen The Wolverine and Days of Future Passed as well as the two Deadpool movies. Days of Future Passed was a great movie, and I enjoyed both Deadpools, while The Wolverine was forgettable. I'll be watching Logan tonight, and eventually Apocalypse, though I've been told the latter isn't so good.

    As far as theater films this year, the only non-MCU film I've seen is How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. This is one of my favorite film series, and the third film was an unexpected gift. I don't know that it was strictly necessary, nor was it as good as the first films in the series, but it was a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy.

    I also rewatched the first two Raimi Spider-Man films. Macguire is definitely an inferior actor to Holland (and Garfield, though I don't think Garfield was particularly suited to the role), and these films are definitely more cheesy than the superhero films we get nowadays. Sometimes intentionally so, sometimes not. But they were still a good time, and the Octavius storyline in Spider-Man 2 remains fantastic. Those films are still a fun watch, though I'm not particularly eager to revisit 3.

    Edited June 25th by white lancer
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    did you watch The Wolverine or X men Origins Wolverine?

    I really liked the one that took place in Japan. The Third act falls apart though

    Posted June 25th by S.O.H.
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    I need to rewatch The Wolverine, but I remember liking it quite a bit! It falls apart in the final act, but all the X-Men films do (and, really, most superhero films do, too). It's not as good as Logan, nor as consistent, but I tend to rank the X-Men movies like this:

    1. Logan
    2. First Class
    3. X2: United
    4. The Wolverine
    5. Deadpool
    6. X-Men
    7. Days of Future Past
    8. X-Men: The Last Stand
    9. Deadpool 2
    10. Apocalypse
    11. X-Men Origins: Wolverine

    (Haven't seen Dark Phoenix yet, though. I'm sure it will be near the bottom.)

    There really are a lot more of them than I remember. And boy, the quality is mostly not great. I think generally, the problem with the franchise has less to do with it's shit-show of a "time line" (it's only ever really a problem when they want to care about it for its story, which is why I had many issues with Days of Future Past - but otherwise, the lack of a coherent or sensical timeline is totally fine), but rather, with the fact that they are still sort of building around Bryan Singer's vision. Apart from what a piece of human shit he is as a human, his vision for the franchise has always been boooooring.

    Like, ok, maybe that first X-Men movie needs to be a little muted. It feels very late '90s, and influenced a bit by Blade. Maybe it had to be, because at the time, audiences hadn't clearly embraced the weirdness of comics. So, replace the fun, visually recognizable costumes and characterizations with generic leather uniforms and toned down characters. Fine. But, that doesn't explain why every step of the way, he has resisted the comic book-i-ness of the franchise. Where I think Zack Snyder gets too caught up in wanting comics to be "edgy" and "gritty" to the detriment of his films, at least he comes from a place wherein he respects the medium as an artform (even if he doesn't quite get it). Singer, on the other hand, has always felt like someone reluctantly making superhero movies who is embarrassed about it. It's not enough to just not include the colorful, fan-favorite costumes; he also has to literally turn it into a joke to make fun of the idea. That's sort of always been the feeling I get from Singer-led or inspired X-Men films. And I don't think it's a coincidence that some of the best received X-Men movies are the ones that get away from Singer's style (like Deadpool, Logan, or First Class, which still tones it down but is at least more inspired by Joss Whedon's run of Astonishing X-Men).



    I need to rewatch the Raimi Spider-flicks. I rewatched Spider-Man 3 recently, and I was struck by how I didn't think it was bad for any of the reasons it's popular to consider it bad for. Like emo Spider-Man isn't the problem with the film, nor is that dancing sequence, as comical as it is. (Like, I *really* think the intention is for it to be awkward, campy, and sort of funny. And I think it makes sense that that is what a nerdy dude like Peter Parker, when corrupted by the symbiote, would think of as "cool" or something. To be sure, it's a bad scene, but I don't think it's as bad or detrimental as everyone else does, apparently.) But man, the film still is bad. Has some good stuff in it, though.

    As it pertains to the actors, I think so much has to do with the directors and their visions. I'm not the biggest Tobey Maguire fan, but I think he fits the Sam Raimi films way better than Andrew Garfield or Tom Holland would have. Similarly, I don't think Maguire or Holland would have fit into Marc Webb's Spider-Man films as well as Garfield did. And I don't think Maguire or Garfield would fit in with the current Marvel-led Spider-Man films, either.

    Basically, I think each Peter Parker has been flawed and imperfect, but each has really fit their respective series really well, though. I prefer the Holland version (I mean, to be honest, I prefer Into the Spider-Verse over all live action Spider-Men), but they're all doing kind of different takes on the character. None have fully captured the essence of the comic version, but they've all done a good job getting enough and working it into their respective films.

    Posted June 25th by Jet Presto
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    Eh, maybe I'm being uncharitable to The Wolverine, or perhaps I was too distracted while watching it. I didn't really find that anything stood out from it to make it more than your typical action film, although I did think Yukio and Logan himself were interesting. No major problems with the film either, though. I'm surprised to see Days of Future Past (getting the spelling right this time--I'm too used to the Moody Blues album I guess!) so low on your list, Jet, as it's my favorite of the ones I've seen thus far. Though I really have no idea about any of the timeline stuff you alluded to since I sorta jumped in halfway through the series. I just really enjoyed McAvoy and Fassbender and their dynamic as Xavier and Magneto, as well as Quicksilver's brief appearance (much cooler than his MCU incarnation, btw). I didn't know who half of the mutants were, particularly in the future scenes, but I thought the film worked very well just as a standalone movie. I started Logan too late last night, so I didn't wind up finishing it. Soon enough.

    As far as the Raimi films go, they're interesting in that they're so hit-and-miss. I think that's partially a product of the tone they were aiming to hit--they're clearly deliberately cheesy, which is tricky to do. When they hit the balance just right, the films are enormously charming because of their cheesiness, but when they don't, they're just cringeworthy. J. Jonah Jameson is pure gold, and both the Green Goblin and Octavius work really well (let's not talk about the villains of the third film, though). I think it hits on the responsibility angle a lot better than Homecoming does, too, and there are some truly epic sequences. But, man...when something happens in an MCU film that I don't like, I can at least acknowledge that the film is competently done even though I don't like the choices made, but the bad parts of the Raimi films are really bad. Mary Jane is just dreadful--I feel bad for Kirsten Dunst because she doesn't get to do much other than be the melodramatic damsel in distress (one area in which the Amazing films are far superior--Gwen Stacy in those films is a far more competent and likable female lead). I know she gets a lot of flak for how she treats Peter, but really she's way worse to the other guys she dated over the course of the films (as a side note, it was nice playing through Spider-Man PS4 and getting to see an actually likable/useful incarnation of the character). She's also a complete moron, since she had more than enough information to connect Peter with Spider-Man (he very clearly demonstrates impossible reflexes and strength in front of her in the first film). Harry had potential but ranges from being underused to poorly written--it's a little frustrating because there's clearly room for a good dynamic/conflict between him and Peter, but it never gets the development it needed.

    I don't entirely agree with the take that the various actors wouldn't be good in their counterparts' films. Like, on looks alone Maguire is the best at the "awkward loner" angle of the character, but outside of playing that one particular aspect his acting is on a spectrum from "passable" to "bad" IMO. I just think Holland has a much bigger range as an actor--for instance, Maguire's Parker has a lot of moments where he (unconvincingly) breaks down, and I think Holland would have nailed those parts because he's been excellent at hitting the emotional beats. I would have rather seen Holland's take on Parker's reaction to Uncle Ben's death than either Maguire or Garfield because he's so damn good at those moments, which is part of why I think it's unfortunate that he came around after that particular origin story was already beaten into the public consciousness. Hopefully Far From Home is good, because Holland deserves a great script to play Spider-Man--he's been able to display his talents in some of the MCU's best moments already, particularly in crossover films, but Homecoming was decent mostly because he elevated an otherwise pedestrian story IMO. As far as Garfield goes, I've seen him be good in other films, but he never really worked with Peter Parker as written in his films. He kinda left me with the impression that he was aware that awkward people exist, but had never actually encountered one in the wild. I think maybe if they had toned down the awkward angle of the character like they kinda did with Holland's Spidey, or if they had had him play a more experienced/confident Spidey a la Chris Pine's version in Spider-Verse, it would have worked a lot better. I think playing the awkward loner is just not in his wheelhouse as an actor.

    I've been hearing a lot of talk recently about a live-action Spider-Verse featuring all three actors, which is...interesting. I mean, Maguire and Garfield would be in their 40s or 50s by the time that project came about, a far cry from where they were when they originally played the role. I'm far more excited about future animated versions, since I agree that Into the Spider-Verse is the best Spider-Man film I've seen and it's not particularly close.I think a lot of people would say that Infinity War was the best superhero movie of last year, but for me it's very clearly a two-horse race between Spider-Verse and Black Panther.

    Posted June 26th by white lancer
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    I've been hearing a lot of talk recently about a live-action Spider-Verse featuring all three actors, which is...interesting. I mean, Maguire and Garfield would be in their 40s or 50s by the time that project came about, a far cry from where they were when they originally played the role.

    This shouldnt be an issue. De aging characters with CGI has been used (successfuly) in a couple of MCU films already. By then I am sure they would have it perfected.

    I would love a live action spider verse type of thing. For me it goes Tobey> Andrew>> Holland.

    I loved the original spider man films and enjoyed Amazing SPiderman 2.

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    I really need to watch The Wolverine again, as literally all I remember is that I generally liked it. Some of it will certainly not work the same way now in a post-Logan world, because one of the things I really appreciated about it was the way that they managed to de-power him. That sounds kinda silly now, but at the time, we'd never truly seen Wolverine as anything other than an immortal, unstoppable force. And I felt, overall, the reason for his de-powering was compelling and a relevant to his character. (I think it's telling that the two movies that I felt like actually humanized Logan by removing his powers to various degrees were the two movies made by James Mangold.) But it's been a while.

    As for DoFP, well, I *haaaate* time travel movies pretty generally. It's not super often that those work for me. And it definitely doesn't work here. I think a big part of what didn't work for me was that they - for whatever reason - decided to have Bryan Singer retcon the previous Bryan Singer movies. (I know it was specifically created to retcon X-Men: The Last Stand, but there is a lack of clarity on what events of the original trilogy en masse were actually effected.)

    There's a lot in the movie that doesn't get explained or doesn't make sense. The explanation of Kitty Pryde's power is a huge stretch, and I'm not sure why they wouldn't have just used any of the many X-Men psychic characters instead. Then there's the complete disregard of the ending of First Class, which made it kind of confusing as to where exactly it fits in the time line (it starts in the future from the first X-Men, but then they go to the past that is just a few years after First Class, but apparently little really mattered because Sentinels weren't a thing in X-Men, even though it takes place after the events depicted after First Class, which was why the world was all shit in in the future-future...and just that explanation alone is exactly why the hyper-convoluted plot is stupid. At least Endgame primarily used time travel primarily for character beats, rather than plot explanations of previous films and the current film.) But like, First Class ended in this great way where Magneto had just wooed Mystique into his camp, while Xavier was paralyzed and decided to build the school. But then in DoFP, Magneto is in prison and Mystique is on her own, while Xavier is taking a drug to become un-paralyzed, except he is suddenly really too distraught with his failure to save Sebastian Shaw in First Class that he gives up on the school.

    And then there's the weird thing where Magneto goes from feeling like it was super important to empower mutants to feel superior to humans, suddenly deciding that yeah, actually, he does need to kill Mystique so she doesn't kill a human that will try to start a war with mutants. (It would have been more in character for him to try and recruit her to help *him* kill Trask, since the bigger issue was Mystique's DNA - which, even THAT was pretty contrived, just like Kitty's new, random, out of thin air powers. Like, I get that mutant powers never make sense, but Mystique can shape-shift. She can't perform the powers of other mutants. So why is it her DNA is all it takes for the Sentinels to suddenly be able to use all the powers of every mutant, exactly?)

    And also, about that: the entire reason they give for the future apocalypse was that humans were so afraid of mutants after Mystique killed Trask that they sanctioned all these anti-mutant policies: the Sentinels, the camps, the exterminations. And the future is clearly saved because they stopped Mystique from killing Trask. Except...in the process, Magneto literally LIFTED AND DRAGGED AN ENTIRE STADIUM TO DC AND DROPPED IT AROUND IN A LITERALLY INSANE SHOW OF POWER AND WAS A CLEAR THREAT TO HUMANKIND, and somehow, that *didn't* set off the anti-mutant events? Like, we've literally seen the X-Men stop Magneto to save humankind in the previous Bryan Singer films, and that didn't stop anyone from their anti-mutant policy support.

    On top of that, there's the basic structure. The problem with a time travel movie like DoFP is that once Wolverine is sent to the past, all the stuff that happens in the future is set. Sending him to the past is fine, and it was even kinda fun sometimes. But then they kept cutting back to the future. So we had two separate "presents," except one was actually the past, and one was actually the future. The film should have done all it wanted with the future first, THEN sent Wolverine to the past, and then stayed there for the remainder until it was all set. Because the moment Wolverine is sent to the past, the future changes. From the future's perspective, the past isn't happening in real-time. It's still the past. It makes sense to present it as "currently happening" when it follows Wolverine, but it also feels they have to follow the random assortment of unnamed X-Men in the future. But also, because we know Wolverine's mission was to literally retcon everything, when we see characters die in the future, we know that that is *immediately* about to be undone! At least Endgame waited until the end of of their three hours to undo everything that happened in a previous movie. DoFP retcons the entire movie at the end of the movie, just as they had retconned the first fifteen minutes of the movie within fifteen minutes of the movie!


    So the structure doesn't work for me at all. They never should have inter-cut the action of the "past" with the action of the "future." It doesn't make sense. Additionally, Wolverine literally gets knocked out in the final battle and becomes literally irrelevant by the end. This isn't really a plot hole as much as a "what are they doing?" thing. Why make Logan your primary protagonist of the film and then literally knock him out of the major action just at the beginning of the final action? He has literally no impact on the action. Sure, that doesn't mean he has no impact at all. He does manage to bring Magneto and Xavier into the fold to save Trask and all that, but it still would have been nice to have the guy who was sent back to save the day actually be more overtly involved in saving the day.

    There's cool stuff in there. I like the Quicksilver stuff. I liked the "closeted Beast" stuff. I liked the Fassbender/MacAvoy stuff, as always (the real strength of that series). But just soooo much of the film makes no sense. I'm also not even remotely interested in Singer's aesthetics. He makes the most visually boring and bland films around some of the most colorful characters and comics. It's really lacking in focus. It does the X-Men 3 thing of introducing pointless characters that serve no narrative purpose, and must only be disappointing to fans of the characters, really. And really, I just don't care about a film that exists exclusively to retcon other films in a vain effort to fix a timeline that - while itself broken beforehand - never really mattered in the first place.


    Much of the broken timeline now occurs after DoFP, but those are just a few reasons why the film - I find - to be quite a slog that, while having some good stuff in it, makes little to no sense. It'd be one thing if they weren't taking themselves so seriously, but Singer's X-Men flicks really don't do that. (The time travel in Endgame also annoys me and makes no real sense, but at *least* they were mostly fun and mattered for character moments. I'm far less annoyed by Endgame than DoFP.)

    Here's a good video explaining how the time line makes no sense, although less specific to DoFP, which was an attempt to fix the time line, only to do so it requires ignoring a bunch of things from the first trilogy, the reboot, and the Wolverine spin-offs.



    Posted June 26th by Jet Presto
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    This shouldnt be an issue. De aging characters with CGI has been used (successfuly) in a couple of MCU films already. By then I am sure they would have it perfected.


    Fair point. It worked excellently with Samuel Jackson in Captain Marvel, and I imagine it'd be far less of a stretch for Maguire and Garfield.

    Re: DOFP, it does seem like most of your issues are ones I wouldn't really have picked up on, given that I haven't watched the prior films in the series. It does seem like a strange choice to have a movie designed to retcon previous films out of existence--makes it essentially a reboot in all but name. And I did find the intercutting between the past and "future" to be a strange choice--when I started the movie, I had kinda assumed that those initial future appearances were pretty much cameos that we wouldn't see them again, and moving back to them felt pointless (aside from the Xavier-to-Xavier conversation). It came across as more, "these actors are popular in their roles and people will want to see them" rather than making any sense, and I didn't really feel any tension when they were being killed at the end. Wolverine being knocked out of the final fight didn't really bother me, though, since by that point the film really felt more centered on Xavier/Magneto/Mystique to me. And that was a dynamic that felt very much worth watching to me, far outweighing the other issues I saw in the film.

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    Unrelated, I watched Jim Jarmusch's indie zombie comedy/satire, THE DEAD DON'T DIE. It was all right. Don't regret seeing it, but it's not really great. It has such a great cast, but most are only in the movie for one scene, which is disappointing. Really, it just made me want to watch Shaun of the Dead again.

    Posted June 27th by Jet Presto
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    I saw Captain Marvel and Going Postal on DVDs.
    I saw MIB International in a cinema theater with two friends of mine.


    Posted June 30th by chiarizio
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    I just finished Far From Home. Easily my favorite phase 3 film. I loved Jake.

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    I'm going to see it at the Drive-In next weekend. Double bill with the new Men In Black. I wasn't crazy about Homecoming (I thought it was fine.) But I kinda do feel like this might be a nice pallet cleanser after all the "epic" stuff with Avengers.

    Posted July 3rd by Jet Presto
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    It was definetely a pallet cleanser and I did have some issues with it. But ov3r all it is my favorite Spiderman film. (Not th3 b3st but my favorite)

    To me it goes Spider Man FFH>Spiderman 2> Amazing Spiderman 2>Spiderman 1>everything else

    Posted July 3rd by S.o.h
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    It was definetely a pallet cleanser and I did have some issues with it. But ov3r all it is my favorite Spiderman film. (Not th3 b3st but my favorite)


    “Palate”, not “pallet”.




    Posted July 3rd by chiarizio
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    As far as Spider-Man films go, my list would be:

    1. Into the Spider-Verse
    2. Spider-Man 2
    3. Homecoming
    4. Spider-Man
    5. Amazing Spider-Man
    6. Amazing Spider-Man 2
    7. Spider-Man 3

    I'm thinking Far From Home will slot in at 2, 3, or 4 on that list. I feel pretty confident in saying I didn't like it more than Spider-Verse, but it being the best live-action one isn't out of the question IMO.

    It is kinda nice that the MCU has shown a recent tendency to follow up their big crossover films with smaller, more fun films (Ant-Man after Age of Ultron, Doctor Strange/Guardians 2 after Civil War, Ant-Man and the Wasp after Infinity War, and now this). I'm glad they've so far been committed to keeping that variety instead of going all-out all the time.

    Posted July 3rd by white lancer
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    You have to forgive him spelling is not his strong suit. He keeps misspelling the word guacamole

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    I like how he corrects "pallet" but not: ov3r, th3, b3st.




    Posted July 3rd by S.O.H.
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    "3" for "e" is valid in the leetspeak dialect. "Pallet" for "palate" is not valid in any known dialect.

    Posted July 3rd by Cruinn-Annuin
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    Well, he was following my lead, which I typed too quickly and just made a dumb typo. Some leniency can surely be granted as I made the typo first and he was responding. (Also, it doesn't matter.)

    Posted July 3rd by Jet Presto
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    I didnt even realize it was wrong until it was pointed out lol

    Posted July 3rd by S.O.H.
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    I started Into The Spiderverse a couple of day back. I am an hour and 15 minutes in... It is okay. I like the idea of it and would love to see a version of this which includes Holland, Garfield, and Mcguire. But I am finding the film itself to be very underwhelming.

    The animation style is a bit of a turn off for me . I will probably finish it tonight or sometime this weekend. As of right now I am not entirely sure why it was so popular.

    I will say this: Spider Robo Girl is best spiderman.

    Posted July 5th by S.O.H.
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    Most people liked the animation style, and the premise of it which wouldn't have happened in a live action, and the soundtrack, and the story.

    If you find the animation a turn-off, obviously that's a pretty major hindrance to your enjoyment of it. But that was one of the big reasons people loved it. But also in large part because they like Miles Morales and the Peter Parker of the film, and the story that focuses primarily on them and their development - something we haven't seen a lot of in the live action stories. (Which do focus on Peter, but don't often have him really develop, or tell stories overly focused on canon rather than meaning.)

    Posted July 5th by Jet Presto
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    I ujust went to see Toy Story 4.

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    and the premise of it which wouldn't have happened in a live action

    Like I said I like the idea. And would love to see a live action version with those 3 in particular. But the actual animated movie falls short for me.


    as far as Miles goes. He is okay. I would act the same way if I got super powers as 14 year old kid. I did like the older peter parker who has a failed marriage.

    Posted July 5th by S.O.H.
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    I binged watch the hulu show "ramy" it is very similiar to masters of none which isnt a bad thing. Some episodes are okay but others are really good.

    Episodes: 4,6,7,9 and 10 are really well done.



    Posted July 16th by S.O.H.
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    Heard bad things about The Lion King, so naturally, I went to see it. (I'm pretty into terrible studio movies.) And YUP. It's bad. There are good elements in it, but it's the first movie I think I've ever seen where I felt like it would have been better if the screen had gone black the whole time. As a radio play with that cast, it was great! The visuals were boring and tedious, even if a technological achievement.


    As a palette cleanser, I watched Stuber, which I quite enjoyed!

    Posted July 24th by Jet Presto
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    I am watching Money Heist/ Casa de Papel season 3 on netflix. A good season so far but there are some things that they could have done better. I am enjoying it.

    Posted July 25th by S.O.H.
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    I rewatched the original Spider man 1 and Spider Man 2 films. I loved them. Been a long time since Ive seen either one. I always put the 1st over the 2nd movie (fight me) but this time aorund I enjoyed the 2nd one a little bit more. I do feel that it drags on a tiny bit but overall it is a dam good film.

    I plan to watch Spiderman 3 sometime this weekend.

    I can say that Far From Home is on Par with the original 2 movies. I didnt think it was too much of an issue when I was a kid but these actors are too dam old to be playing teenagers. When I first saw the original I thought anyone older than me an adult so I didnt really notice it as much.

    I do plan to rewatch Amazing Spider man 2 a little bit later on. (I enjoyed it)

    Posted July 29th by S.O.H.
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    I have a hard time fathoming anyone not liking Into the Spider-Verse. Film is close to perfection IMO--it's not just the best Spider-Man film by leaps and bounds, it's a contender to be my favorite superhero film of all time. Right up there with The Dark Knight, Black Panther, The Winter Soldier, and Logan for me.

    Speaking of, I did wind up watching Logan and X-Men: Apocalypse. Logan was as great as advertised, but holy hell is it a depressing film. Definitely the best of the franchise that I've seen, but I also think it would make it hard for me to care about films set before it in the franchise, particularly films like Days of Future Past that are mainly focused on preventing the exact sort of mutant apocalypse that Logan depicts as having happened anyway. As such, it seems like an incredible standalone film, but one that somehow simultaneously renders most of the rest of the franchise meaningless. As for Apocalypse, I found it surprisingly watchable. I mean, it definitely has problems, but based off of what I'd heard I was expecting an utter trainwreck. There was some legitimate cool things in there--Quicksilver, for instance, is hilariously OP, but he's used sparingly enough and his scenes are entertaining enough that it hasn't bothered me. Nightcrawler was a cool character as well, and I even enjoyed these versions of Jean Grey and Cyclops to an extent. An underwhelming bad guy and final showdown (after a promising start, no less) mean it's still definitely at the bottom of the list out of the films I've seen, though.

    Posted July 30th by white lancer
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    I have a hard time fathoming anyone not liking Into the Spider-Verse. Film is close to perfection IMO--it's not just the best Spider-Man film by leaps and bounds, it's a contender to be my favorite superhero film of all time.

    it wasnt for me mate. And Ive been digging spiderman for a while now. I was not that fond of the new game either.


    Right up there with The Dark Knight, Black Panther, The Winter Soldier, and Logan for me.

    I personally would not put Black Panther up there with the other 3. Its an Okay movie. Its only redeeming qualities are Killmonger and Shuri.

    I am happy you enjoyed Logan. What a great film.

    Posted July 30th by S.O.H.
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    Heh, we're just not going to agree on much of this, I suppose. I think Black Panther pretty clearly a top tier MCU/superhero film with far more redeeming qualities than Killmonger and Shuri (though I agree that both are awesome), and I also think the Spider-Man PS4 film has a better storyline (and treats the Peter Parker character better) than any of the live-action films.

    Posted July 30th by white lancer
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    (And the comics, to be honest...)



    I watched a flick called SWORD OF TRUST. Surprisingly funny and sneakily depressing. It's Marc Maron as a pawn shop owner who encounters these women trying to sell a civil war sword they inherited from their grandfather. He claimed it was a sword that General Sheridan surrendered, and that there was a vast conspiracy to cover up the fact that the South won the war. They try to sell it to a big online conspiracy nut, and a few other conspiracy theory nuts try to steal it on the way. But at it's core, it's a really personal drama, looking into Marc Maron's character.

    Not the best movie ever, but I quite liked it.

    Posted July 31st by Jet Presto
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    I completed a Deadwood rewatch recently as a refresher before I watched the new movie. Man, what a great show...and I have to say, I enjoyed it more this time through, largely because I watched it with subtitles. Milch's dialogue is creative, unique, and often beautiful...but it's also so convoluted that it can be difficult to understand without seeing it. As for the movie itself, it was pretty good. There was no way around it being rushed--there are way too many characters for it to have been otherwise--but all of the characters felt true to themselves and there were some truly beautiful and satisfying moments. It's no substitute for what a fourth season would have been initially, but I feel a lot better about having it as the end of the series as the show always felt incomplete where it initially ended. And it's truly impressive that they managed to bring back almost every single major actor, with the biggest exception being Powers Boothe (while Cy Tolliver was never my favorite character, Boothe was a magnificent actor and is sorely missed).

    Posted August 2nd by white lancer
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    Reminds me I need to actually sit down and watch Deadwood.


    Saw THE FAREWELL, which is touching, funny, and boy did it hit close to home and I cried like a baby at the end.

    Posted August 3rd by Jet Presto
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    Finished Spider Man 3. While it is not as good as 1 or 2 it is a pretty decent time. I really enjoyed watching Peter's descent into madness. (Goofy dancing and all) while it was a bit messy at times I feel that Raimi did his best in the parameters that he was given. He managed to give us the beautiful Sandman transformation scene, Peters descent into madness, and Harry's redemption all in one movie. Sprinkle in some interesting action scenes and we have a pretty solid ending to the spiderman trilogy.

    In Spiderman 1 Green Goblin says: "Join me and together we can rule this city"

    In Spiderman 3 Hob Goblin and Spiderman come together to save the city. Beautiful.

    Posted August 12th by s.o.h.
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    I had the opposite response to Spider-Man 3 when I rewatched it about a month ago. If anything, it was worse than I remembered it--the Raimi trilogy as a whole hasn't aged well IMO, though the first two are still decent films with great villains. Not much I like about 3--some cool Sandman stuff, though it's weird that it seems to act like his tragedy justifies his horrible actions, and that's pretty much it. Always wanted to like Harry's arc, but he was so underdeveloped across the whole series it never had the impact it needed, at least for me (and the whole "my butler waited several years to tell me how my father died" thing was ridiculous). Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

    I noticed that the Rocky movies turned up on Amazon Prime recently. Since I'd never seen them before, and since I had a pretty quiet weekend lined up, I marathoned them. They were way better than I was expecting, especially the first one--I was expecting a generic sports film, and there are definitely some elements of that here (though maybe some of those were established with these films?), but the first film in particular is barely about the fight. They kinda got worse as they went along (though I did really enjoy Rocky Balboa), but the series as a whole was a fun ride. I'll have to find a place to watch or rent the Creed films sometime soon, since they weren't included--I've been a big Michael B. Jordan fan ever since I saw him in Friday Night Lights, and of course Ryan Coogler directed my favorite MCU film.

    Posted August 13th by white lancer
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    Ive been downloading a lot of movies. I am now taking recommendations for movies and shows.

    While not a movie I watched Season 3 of Stranger Things. While not as good as Season 1 it was better than Season 2.... But a burning bag of poo is better than season 2. I am not as vested in Stranger Things as I was when it first came out. At this point what drew me to Season 3 was all the hilarious memes I kept seeing.

    What is up with these netflix originals getting relatively worse over time? Stranger things, Orange is the New Black, Punisher, Luke Cage, etc. (The only exception being Daredevil a relatively weak Season 2, but Season 3 was great)



    Posted Monday by S.O.H.
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    What is up with these netflix originals getting relatively worse over time? Stranger things, Orange is the New Black, Punisher, Luke Cage, etc.

    Out of those I've really only watched Stranger Things and Orange.

    I just finished Orange yesterday and the ending...doesn't exactly feel complete but it's good enough I suppose. I never felt like it changed too much and it was just as regular as always. I just think we were enthralled with the unique characters in season 1 but after that it levels off.

    One thing that kinda annoys me about Orange is that it feels like they always try to big up a major real world issue every single season. This show is supposed to take place over the course of like maybe 2 years but they tried to shove 7 years worth of political problems into it. This last season they tried to cram both the MeToo movement and the current ICE situation but ended up really only doing the ICE storyline somewhat well while the MeToo one kinda faltered. It might've been just better if they made it in "real time" but admittedly they didn't know when it would end I guess. When making every character go through some crazy situation it ends up feeling like the show is devolving into Degrassi to me.

    With Stranger Things (currently about 1/3 of the way through the newest season) I think the show is just ruined by the over-obsessing fans. Season 1 was great because you didn't have anyone with preconceived notions of what this show was going to be. I didn't have much of an issue with Season 2 or anything though. It kind of ruins the show when people latch onto just the catchphrases or actions of character and apply that into the real world (imagine a person who likes waffles eating them and one real life person says something like "Wow you are LITERALLY Eleven now!"). I just try to watch it for what it is and ignore the people ruining it.

    Posted Monday by Fox Forever
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    I just finished Orange yesterday and the ending...doesn't exactly feel complete but it's good enough I suppose. I never felt like it changed too much and it was just as regular as always. I just think we were enthralled with the unique characters in season 1 but after that it levels off.


    Heh I stopped watching after Season 3. I found Season 1 and 2 to be the best seasons. After that it fell apart.

    (imagine a person who likes waffles eating them and one real life person says something like "Wow you are LITERALLY Eleven now!"). I just try to watch it for what it is and ignore the people ruining it.

    Yeah that is annoying. I really like the 80's vibes of the show. From the Fashion to the absurd hairstyles. The best part of this season was Steve's reaction to Dustin coming back from camp. (Well I have another favorite part but I will let you finish the season first)

    Posted Monday by S.O.H.
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    It's just the way TV can be sometimes. I've seen plenty of TV shows that had great first seasons and then it's like they don't really know what to do next. Probably because they only plan them out one season at a time for fear of getting cancelled in the middle of something. You probably feel it's more the case with Netflix originals because Netflix are just flooding us with Netflix originals

    As for the original Spiderman trilogy. I never particularly liked them to begin with. I didn't dislike them either. For me they were just there, watched them once or twice and then never again.


    I recently watched "I Am Mother" on Netflix. That was a pretty good netflix movie. Don't want to talk too much about it to avoid spoiling it for anyone that plans to watch it but I really liked the different take on a potential apocalypse scenario.

    Last movie I watched in a cinema was Lion King. I had time off work and my parents & sister invited me so it was more about spending time with them than the movie. It was generally meh, certain moments I felt some emotional attachment but only because of the original animated movie I suspect (I remember feeling a bit sad before Mufasa died because I knew it was coming!). Turning those animated animals into realistic CGI ones just doesn't do it for me. It really took me out of the whole thing because it's harder to ignore the fact that you're seeing predators & prey calming hanging around with each other half the time :P With the animated one it's a lot easier to suspend ones disbelief.

    Posted Monday by Moonray
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    It's just the way TV can be sometimes. I've seen plenty of TV shows that had great first seasons and then it's like they don't really know what to do next. Probably because they only plan them out one season at a time for fear of getting cancelled in the middle of something. You probably feel it's more the case with Netflix originals because Netflix are just flooding us with Netflix originals


    I was expecting a little bit more from netflix I guess.

    And yeah I am not feeling any of the Disney stuff outside of the MCU.

    Posted Monday by S.O.H.
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    The best part of this season was Steve's reaction to Dustin coming back from camp

    Hah yeah that was pretty heartwarming and cool. I think those two actually make a real great pair in the show.

    I really like the 80's vibes of the show. From the Fashion to the absurd hairstyles.

    Its use of music can really put you in a nostalgic move. I missed being born in the 80s by about 8 months but I feel like I know its period. My wife sees the hairstyles (including in real 80s films) and acts like "what were they thinking?" but I point out what was worn in the early 2000s with hip-hop looks was also real terrible. I bet come 2030 everyone will point out stretched ears and maybe some other fashion trend as a bad fad.

    After that it fell apart.

    Eh I think 4 was pretty good but I felt that 5 and 6 went off the rails just a little bit. Especially the end of 5. Starting with 6 it awakens one of my most hated characters in the show. Starting with Season 6 they cull like half of the recurring cast so it feels less crowded. I also wasn't always a fan of them having to put a "flashback" character in nearly every episode. That got a little tiring.

    Posted Monday by Fox Forever
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    I was expecting a little bit more from netflix I guess.

    I think maybe we are still in that time back in 2013 and 2014 where like every show that was coming from Netflix was a great show. Back then it was Orange, House of Cards, and Bojack leading the charge before Orange burnt out, House of Cards was buried in controversy, and Bojack got a little too dark for its own good (but I'll still watch it). Check the wiki page and starting about 2016 there is a BIG blowup of all these "original shows" which kind of saturated the name.

    Posted Monday by Fox Forever
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    I watched Invader Zim, Rocko's Modern Life, and Her all very recently on Netflix. All good stuff.

    Currently watching X-Men: The Animated Series with my girlfriend to gear up for the X-Men movies we're going to watch, sort of as a prelude to watching every MCU film (the only MCU films I've seen are The Incredible Hulk and both Spider-Man films). I'm looking forward to rewatching Days of Future Past, which was my favorite X-Men film (yes, more than Logan...by a lot).

    I currently own Phase 1 and Phase 2 of the MCU films. I own Spider-Man: Far From Home and Avengers: Endgame from Phase 3. Next film I'm going to pick up is Captain America: Civil War, and so on and so forth until I have all of them. When I own all 23 films, I'll sit down and watch each one in release order.

    I hope most of them don't suck!

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    I see a list of X-Men films from best to worst, so I'll toss my two cents in!

    1. Days of Future Past

    2. First Class

    3. Logan

    4. Deadpool

    5. Apocolypse

    6. The Wolverine

    7. Deadpool 2

    8. X2: United

    9. X-Men

    10. X-Men: The Last Stand

    11. X-Men Origins: Wolverine

    Posted Tuesday by Laxan
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    I hope most of them don't suck!


    they range from okay to great. (Specifically the Cap trilogy) I think the weakest stand alone film in the MCU is Thor 2.

    Granted I wonder if you already had Infinity War and or End Game Spoiled for you.

    When it comes to the MCU my top three are The Winter Soldier, Infinity War, and Spiderman Far From Home.

    I agree with your X men list. A part of me would like to swap Apocalypse and The Wolverine. But the Former has the Magneto Scene in the woods. And the Latter is pretty solid for the first 2/3rds of the movie until it makes a bit of a jarring sharp turn.





    Posted Tuesday by S.O.H.
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    I would put the latest one (Dark Phoenix) somewhere right near the bottom. I would definitely put it below Last Stand, whilst I think it did the Dark phoenix story better (and that's not a compliment because I think they bother handled it terribly), it was just a far less likeable movie overall when compared to Last Stand.

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    My order, in terms of how much I enjoyed them:

    1. Days of Future Past

    2. Logan

    3. Deadpool 2

    4. Deadpool

    5. First Class

    6. The Wolverine

    7. X-Men

    8. X-Men: The Last Stand

    9. Apocolypse

    10. X2: United

    11. Dark Phoenix

    12. X-Men Origins: Wolverine

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    I wouldn't take this as 100% accurate as I haven't watched some of them in a little while, but my initial feelings when thinking about the films ranks them like that.

    So of the original three I actually find X2 my least favourite. It has some really cool moments; Magento usually but the Nightcrawler scene at the very start will always be one of my favourites from any movie. Otherwise I find it a pretty boring film that drags on for me.

    Dark Phoenix and Origins were both pretty dull for me. Again they have some cool moments but they're otherwise meh and I never plan rewatch them.

    Apocalypse I thought overall was a pretty weak movie. It didn't do anything particularly interesting. Magneto just repeated the same story arc he's been on for the entire "First Class" era... Works with good guys, betrays good guys, everyone is surprised. At least Dark Phoenix didn't repeat that! I dunno it just didn't do anything new for the series and they shoehorned in the Phoenix stuff, which then later made no sense when they retconned how the Phoenix came to be in Dark Phoenix anyway...

    Posted Tuesday by Moonray
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    I watched Invader Zim, Rocko's Modern Life, and Her all very recently on Netflix. All good stuff.

    I watched Zim yesterday and Rocko on Friday. I thought I would like Rocko more but I ended up loving Zim a lot. I don't feel like the magic is lost in Zim and I kind of hope for more.

    I saw Her earlier this year and thought it was pretty nice.

    Posted Tuesday by Fox Forever
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    This last season they tried to cram both the MeToo movement and the current ICE situation but ended up really only doing the ICE storyline somewhat well while the MeToo one kinda faltered.


    To be a little fair, ICE has been an agency and conducting raids and arresting people for almost two decades. It's not really a "new" political issue as much as the way that the current administration has used it extremely loosely to target even American-born citizens is newer. And the "MeToo" movement, thought of as a movement, might be a few years old as well, but it is a response to an issue that women have faced for literally generations.

    Many current political issues have existed for some time, even if the way they exist in our collective consciousness hasn't always been the same. Plus, does Orange ever specify anything in terms of what year it actually is? I don't know if I remember if they do. It's perfectly reasonable to have multiple political issues exist at the same time within the show, including newer ones, if they don't specify. Unless they said (which I don't remember), we don't have to assume that the year it is in the show is the year it was when its first season aired. That's kinda the nice thing about fiction. It can be flexible with things like time (sort of like how in Marvel comics, it's not the 1960s or '70s, even though most of those characters debuted in that era - in universe, it's only ever really been a few years, at most).



    I haven't watched any movies recently, but if we're including television, I did watch One Mississippi again, which I really love. Although I'm not crazy about the Scrubs-like daydream sequences, it was still one of my favorites. And Glow is up next.

    Oh wait, I did just watch Lincoln again, too. I liked it more than I remembered, but probably not a Top 10 Spielberg film for me.

    Posted Wednesday by Jet Presto
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    Plus, does Orange ever specify anything in terms of what year it actually is?

    Not exactly but Piper's sentence in prison is supposed to be about 16-18 months (don't remember the exact amout) and she ended up getting early release last season anyway. Then another 6 or so months went by because she was on probation this season.

    I have no problem if shows want to tackle these issues BUT I prefer it to be done realistically in terms of timeline. They mention Obama as sitting president in the first one or two seasons and then in this last season they reference Trump being the sitting president.

    And the "MeToo" movement, thought of as a movement, might be a few years old as well, but it is a response to an issue that women have faced for literally generations.

    Again, I don't have a problem if they make these issues known within the show but one of the characters (Caputo) literally said "I've been MeToo'd" (and more characters mentioned it) so he's directly referencing the movement. To me this breaks immersion within the show since it's supposed to be within the maximum span of about 2 years. To me it would be like if in the last season of Breaking Bad that they had 2013 smartphones (the entire show was in the span of a year). I feel like the ICE storyline could have been done at any time (even a decade ago) but it was obviously brought up now because it's a hot topic. I still like Orange, but those things brought it down just a little for me.

    I did watch One Mississippi again, which I really love

    I liked how dry that show could be at times and I'm kind of upset it got cancelled.

    And Glow is up next

    Glow is probably next for me after I go through Stranger Things. I could watch all of Glow in about 2 days but I probably will space it out.

    Posted Wednesday by Fox Forever
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    Tig Notaro's humor is just so amazing to watch. She has such a dry delivery; it's just great. (Had the pleasure of seeing her perform a few weeks ago, and it was as brilliant as ever.) So bummed it got canceled. It happened like, a day or two after Lady Dynamite got canceled from Netflix, too. Ugh.

    Posted Wednesday by Jet Presto
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    Re: X-Men, I actually caught Last Stand on TV just last night. Eesh...pretty sure that one was my least favorite that I've seen, which includes Apocalypse. So bizarre how they introduce this whole Phoenix plotline and treat it like it's so important early on (and it obviously has some lethal consequences), but then she just kinda...fades into the background for a huge chunk of the movie so we can focus on Magneto's storyline instead. Also, the X-Men films in general, but this one and Apocalypse in particular, seem to struggle with the power imbalance between the mutants. Their solution to these grossly overpowered characters seems to be a combination of having them stand around and watch for some vague reason (or no reason at all) and of them choosing not to employ some obvious application of their abilities. Seems to me that if Magneto can lift the Golden Gate Bridge, he should have been able to crush Alcatraz and destroy the "cure" without any need for putting himself or his mutant army at risk at all. Was nice to see Storm actually get to do something, though, since she's barely there in the later films.

    Also watched Mad Max last night. Solid action flick, though it didn't really live up to the hype for me. And I've been working my way through most of the Tarantino movies the past few weeks, since I noticed they were on Netflix. Some of them I had seen before (Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill), but most of the others were new to me.

    Posted Thursday by white lancer
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    I'm not really sure why Fox was hellbent on trying to make a Dark Phoenix story happen in the X-Men movies. I don't know how they did it in the new one, but so much of what made that story work in comics (which, to be honest, I will always maintain that the Dark Phoenix saga is the most overrated "event" comic perhaps of all-time) was the weirdness intrinsic to the medium of serialized superhero comics. What's hard, too, is that a big reason why they wrote the Dark Phoenix saga was that they couldn't really figure out what to do with Jean Grey. She wasn't really a popular character until the '90s cartoon. In the movies, she's barely a character. On the most part, she either serves to humanized Wolverine, as the object of affection in an unnecessary love triangle, or literally the thing for the sides to fight over. And in the newer ones, she's just a minor side character, really.

    Plus, the whole cosmic entity embodying Jean Grey is an innately strange storyline that - for a film franchise that has largely been afraid of the weirder elements of the property - just inherently doesn't work for the Fox films. They probably should just stop trying to make the Dark Phoenix story at this point. Start treating it like the Clone saga for Spider-Man.


    You say Mad Max...as in Fury Road? Or the original?

    Posted Thursday by Jet Presto
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    I find it pretty bizarre that they would revisit the exact same storyline in the same universe, as nebulously defined as that universe is. I mean, Spider-Man got plenty of flak for redoing the origin story in short proximity to the other one, but that's more understandable given that they were different continuities. Maybe they figured it was okay given that they were different actresses? I dunno. The idea of the Phoenix arc seems pretty intriguing to me, but it sure wasn't handled well in Last Stand...or in Dark Phoenix, if the reviews are any indication. I'm actually surprised to hear she wasn't all that popular initially, though--I kinda figured she was one of the most popular X-Men, given how much name recognition she has.

    And it was Fury Road. Forgot there were multiple installments.

    Posted Very Early Yesterday by white lancer
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    Generally speaking, they have historically been afraid to make any such major changes to beloved characters or ones that sell. More often than not, if they make any drastic changes to the status quo, you can be reasonably sure the book sales have been dipping. (See: the Death of Superman, for example, which they primarily did because sales were dropping and he was becoming less popular.)

    Interesting to hear your thoughts about Fury Road. Personally, I think it far surpassed the hype I had heard going into it. The pacing is nearly perfect. The action was great, and visually some of the most interesting stuff we've seen in ages. Good, judicial use of CGI, and a lot of the same weirdness of the Mad Max franchise that I love.



    I just saw PARASITE, the new Bong Joon-ho film (directed Snowpiercer, Mother, The Host Okja). First Korean film to win the Palme D'Or. Not sure if it's my favorite of his work, or his best, but it's very, very good.

    Posted Yesterday Evening by Jet Presto
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    I mean, I enjoyed Fury Road, and I'd recommend it to people, but there's just a pretty low ceiling for me for pure action flicks--they really need something more than just good action to capture my attention. The action was great, for sure, with some pretty cool visuals, but there were definitely times where I felt like it was dragging on too much. I didn't find the actual story or most of the characters to be particularly compelling. I did really like Furiosa and Nux, though.

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