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I'm just wondering if anyone here has manager experience or the ambition to become an manager in their career path? What brings me to ask this question is my recent frustrations from the company I work for. I've made my desire known, spoke with upper management, etc, but keep getting told 50/50 answers. Ideally, I'd want to step up in my current place of employment when the position opens, but I'm being told by half that it's pretty much impossible to step up from within while the other half says they've done it themselves.

I guess what has me so puzzled is the notion that internal candidates are frowned upon? I understand the concern of your currently coworkers potentially not approving or respecting you as a manager when you used to work "on their level" per say, but I feel that should not opt you out completely. I'm pretty much being told that when the time come I can interview for the experience, but that's it. That if I'm not willing to transfer, I'll probably never see the position. There is only two management positions open in the state I live in for the company I work for and they are both around two hours away. I'm just in no position to currently move two hours away, so that is unrealistic. I want to be a manager in my line of work so bad, I've even looked at other companies around my area to find that none are really nearby nor are the benefits, pay, etc, even worth it. I honestly don't know why I'm posting this here because just what kind of attention will it get, but I feel better venting.

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They aren't going to promote you because you are more valuable t to them in your current position than the management one. That's with the vast majority of jobs.

Keep seeking for a similiar position in other companies. Only advice I can give.

Posted January 16th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I'm pretty much being told that when the time come I can interview for the experience, but that's it.

Do the interview and really give it your best shot.

I know it seems pointless, but if you impress your interviewer and show you deserve to get into management, it will reflect well on you and your interviewer will probably want to try and help you in some way.

Posted January 16th by Agis
Agis
 

I doubt I have the kind of management experience you're talking about, but I am one of the managers at my current theater and had previously managed another one before this.

Can't really relate though. Both places preferred promoting internally. Makes sense to hire someone who already knows the ropes. For a more corporate place, I can understand (I suppose) the idea of wanting to bring in an outsider who might have fresher ideas or something. But I still think it's important to do the interview if you think you want to try getting into management. Persistence is noticeable.

Posted January 16th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

"There is only two management positions open in the state I live in for the company I work for and they are both around two hours away. "

If you want to be a manager for the company you work for that bad then you are going to have to consider moving if those are the only Manager positions available. A company isn't going to create a management position just to promote someone if they don't have a need for it. However, it's weird that your company isn't pushing to promote from within since that's how most companies usually operate, but then again if you aren't willing to move for the position then they con't really have a reason to consider you.

Posted January 17th by Q
Q
 

I'm glad to see the consensuses is pretty much agreed upon that the notion of not wishing to promote within is rather odd. Again, they like to promote internally, but one usually has to *transfer* which to me, I still find odd. I see your point, Q, and I agree. However, not everyone is in the right place just to pack up and move their whole live away. Two hours might not seem like much to some, but to me as it would just be myself, it's a big deal. I'd be completely starting over alone. So, it's not that I don't want the position badly enough, but I'm not going to choose work first before my own personal life. That's not to say I would never move, but it's not happening any time soon and again that decision does not reflect my desire of truly wanting the position, more so just personal reasons. There are other branches less than or just a little over and hour away. My hope is if I hold out long enough, I will either have the chance to remain in my current branch and get promote or transfer to somewhere closer than 2 hours away.

Edited January 17th by Cyrus
Cyrus
 

the consensuses is pretty much agreed upon that the notion of not wishing to promote within is rather odd

that is confusing.

Posted January 17th by Brandy
Brandy

i had to re-read that 4x to make sense of it, does anyone else find the sentence is weirdly structured? but feel free to ignore me, js

Posted January 17th by Brandy
Brandy

No.

Posted January 17th by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

Not really. It may be slightly wordy but I understand it.

Posted January 17th by Fox Forever

“i had to re-read that 4x to make sense of it, does anyone else find the sentence is weirdly structured? but feel free to ignore me, js”

Too many big words?

Posted January 17th by Q
Q
 

I concur. Do you concur Q?

Posted January 17th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I had a managerial role for a couple of years. Got promoted and ended up managing my former colleagues. It was horrible. I had no authority. You can't go from pissing about with your mates to telling them what to do. It just doesn't work. Not unless you're willing to jettison your friendships. Your performance also becomes tied up with other people's performance, which I hated. There's a total loss of control. Everything gets messy. If you're managing someone crap, and you can't improve them, then you suck as a manager. I think I did suck as a manager, and I don't miss it at all.

Posted January 19th by Smiling Apple
Smiling Apple

Maybe it's just the nature of my job - not being corporate and all - but I've found some benefits to being friends with my staff. Granted, I'm not super close to any of them, but we do go out for drinks and dancing and go to movies a fair amount. For me, I find that being friends bridges a gap between "staff" and "management," where it helps communication. No one is afraid to bring up concerns, so they don't feel dismissed or ignored by managers. At the same time, they understand where we're coming from and are maybe more receptive to our ideas by virtue of not viewing us as merely managers.

You need the right staff for that, and the right people to promote as well. It can work, but I do understand that it can easily get complicated and messy, and can understand why corporations would prefer to hire internally and move around.

Posted January 19th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

"I concur. Do you concur Q?"

i am inclined to acquiesce to your request.

Means Yes.

Posted January 20th by Q
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