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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/16/pittsburgh-cartoonist-firing-publisher-gazette-650389
Of course the people who run the paper in question are known right wing snowflakes who buddied up with Trump in 2016. Lol @ that John Block guy trying desperately (and failing miserably) to portray Rogers’ firing as anything other than purely political.

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To be fair, if I ran a newspaper that had a significant number of conservative readers I wouldn't want to keep on a cartoonist that was exclusively anti-conservative either.

Posted June 21st by Xhin
Xhin
 

I’m guessing this had more to do with the publishers’ own political views than those of their readers. To my knowledge, Rogers has been a cartoonist at the paper for years and they’ve always done fine business wise. My guess is they didn’t want his clever political commentary influencing potential crossover voters in what was a notorious swing state in 2016. Little bitches.

Posted June 21st by pacman
pacman
 

That would be an egregious violation of free speech and freedom of the press. Therefore, I call it fake news. Not Trump's fake fake news, but real fake news.

Unless, of course, he was actually fired for reasons other than what was stated in the OP.

Edited June 22nd by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

That would be an egregious violation of free speech and freedom of the press. Therefore, I call it fake news. Not Trump's fake fake news, but real fake news.

First Amendment doesn’t apply to business decisions. This firing technically doesn’t violate the First Amendment; only the spirit of free expression.

Also, you really need to learn how to track sources and verify instead of
blurting out FAKE NOOSE at a well respected publication with no actual case.


Posted June 22nd by pacman
pacman
 

I do hate suppression of freedom of speech, but his point seemed to be that the writer had developed a quasi-autistic fascination with Trump that prevented him from writing about anything else, which is not hard at all to believe, since it is so common with media outlets now.

And of course a business generally has the right to conduct itself with whichever biases it pleases. There is of course no shortage of companies where you will face heat for not being enough of a hardline SJW but private property rights are more important than the feelings of customers at the end of the day, so nothingv should be done about this (by the state.)

Edited June 22nd by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
 

If there is some unspoken rule against fixating on Trump, we might as well shut down all news. Im any case, he submitted several cartoons totally unrelated to Trump, so that is not a good rationale for his firing. Bunch of whiny conservatives were triggered is all. Dunno why this is so hard for people to believe. Are people seriously so brainwashed by morons like Sargon of Akkad that they believe the spirit of free expression is undermined EXCLUSIVELY by a vocal minority of liberal college kids with blue hair? Give me a break. The right has only recently adopted free speech as an issue they claim to care about, and even now they are a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to speech they dislike.

Posted June 22nd by pacman
pacman
 

I'm unfamiliar with the individual fired, but people who hate Trump have a tendency to allow their bitterness to seep into their day to day lives, and they will frivolousy seek opportunities to turn a conversation into an anti Trump wankfest. It's not so much of an unspoken rule about Trump, rather a rule thst you should become so fixated on one topic that you refuse to allow any other subject to be explored. Trumps election has essentially turned many leftists into those annoying "Muh Obama" people that had no friends either.

Edited June 22nd by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
 

they believe the spirit of free expression is undermined EXCLUSIVELY by a vocal minority of liberal college kids with blue hair

Well, the blue haired kids don't really invent their opinions, rather the establishments they participate in invent them. Academia, education, many levels of local, state and federal bureaucracies suffer from echo chamber mentality. The reverse can be true, except really in Academia and education, which is like 99 percent left leaning.

It is worrisome that these institutions have been weaponized because of a fervor caused by a tiny and powerless minority of neo Nazis, neo fascists and used to condition millions people into Marxist drones who believe in the use of violence or gkverbment force to suppress freedom of speech.

It's not to say it's not bad when the right does it but it is certainly not a powerless group of people on the left who abuse their power relationships to punish those who aren't like them. It is entirely worthy of critique and a very real threat to liberty.

Posted June 22nd by Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
 

My point is, it’s not exclusively (or even mostly) the “left” undermining the spirit of free speech, contrary to the alt-right narrative (alt righters hate free speech and seek to undermine it from within for their own purposes, as Richard Spencer admitted).

Posted June 22nd by pacman
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