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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


Larry Nasser, a former gymnastics doctor for the USA Olympic team and a Mich. State sports medicine practitioner has just been sentenced to 40-175 years in prison after being found guilty on 7 counts of sexual abuse. Using his position of authority, he preyed on young girls over the span of decades.

I know there has been a huge influx of stories just like this where people have been coming forward with being victims of sexual abuse, often keeping these things hidden for years. Unfortunately, it's very often a common practice to try to discredit these claims almost immediately. However, this contributes to why people don't come forward sooner.

In society, there is a certain social stigma attached to not only sex, but the abused. Most cases of sexual abuse go unreported. For some who do come forward, they are not believed, and the alleged abuser has enablers.

What can we do as a society to do combat this problem as well as having a more productive discourse on sexual abuse as it pertains to victims coming forward?

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It makes you wonder if slimeballs like Nassar and Sandusky pick their profession due to the fact that they will be working so closely with young athletes. I'm sure that other pieces of human filth like them are still out there and I cannot wait until they get what's coming to them.

To start, when there is an accusation, it should be taken seriously instead of silenced. I respect the courage of affected people like Aly Raisman for defying US gymnastics and coming out against Nassar anyway. Hopefully the Nassar sentencing makes other victims more comfortable about coming out with their truths. (So long as they are actual truths of course, and not just people trying to make a quick buck. I'm sorry for being cynical, but we all know that it sometimes happens.) In cases where somebody does come forward and falsely accuses somebody, there should be ramifications for that as well, as the falsely accused's life will be severely impacted.

Posted January 26th by Jahoy Hoy
Jahoy Hoy

I'm not saying it never happens, but I haven't seen anything to indicate it happens at the sort of rate that should make everyone inherently wonder if that's the reason for accusations. Especially when you talk about celebrities, sports legends, or politicians wherein there is an automatic defense built in for the perpetrator in their fans. Like, some of the women who came forward about Roy Moore were Trump supporters who weren't asking for a settlement, and they still had an entire political party attack them for being manipulative, selfish she-devils. And I can't imagine that if you're looking for a quick buck, putting yourself through the harassment the young men who came forward about Jerry Sandusky and implicating Joe Paterno, who played football at Penn State and could have been pretty well connected, would figure that whatever money they could make on that was worth it all. I think the very fact that many people keep feeling the need to mention that it does happen sometimes that victims aren't actually victims contributes to an environment that only serves to discourage victims from coming forward. It inherently sows the seeds of doubt, and provides a convenient excuse for whoever in the court of public opinion who happens to really like the accused to attack the victims. Even though it's perfectly possible to, as a member of the public not directly involved in any of it, ya know, *not say anything at all and wait for more information.* It is possible to not immediately rush to someone's defense or attack someone accusing that person of wrongdoing.


Anyway, they're now asking for the entire US Gymnastics Board to resign by the end of February if they want to retain status as a governing sports body, but that hardly seems sufficient. Abuse in major organizations will never see proper corrective action so long as they always get away with it. It's crazy to me that anyone still can feel ok going to Church.

Posted January 26th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

Michigan State is definitely going to be examined for their lack of taking action, too.

Victims of sexual assault shuld never have to feel reluctant to come forward. It's sad but many do not, and the offenders are allowed to do it repeatedly.


Posted January 27th by Blazer72
Blazer72
 

It's crazy to me that anyone still can feel ok going to Church.

Larry Nassar taught religious classes at a Lancing Catholic Church.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/08/10/rise-fall-larry-nassar/104491508/
"Nassar also was a leader in the community, serving as the sports team doctor for Holt Public Schools and teaching Sunday school at St. Thomas Aquinas Church in East Lansing. The father of a daughter with autism, he started a foundation to introduce children with special needs to gymnastics."


Edited January 27th by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

Psy do you know/have you talked to shewmake before outside of gametalk, like on aim or Facebook nor email? He was a part of the brawl clan that I am a part of and he was an elite player who we all loved to battle online. I’m sure they he had smash bros 4 wiiu/3ds. Does he remember me? I’m the yoshi main (well there were a few yoshi mains but I ONLY used and still only use yoshi).

Posted January 27th by Weid man
Weid man
 

I thought the sentencing was actually mishandled. He deserves the punishment itself, but the judge remarked that she was pleased to sentence him to prison for the rest of his life and expressed hope that he would be sexually assaulted in her remarks. I think it really crossed the line between justice and vengeance. We should pushing for a society that is against violence and sexual assault in all forms, not inverting the violence against the supposed oppressors.

Posted January 27th by Agis
Agis
 

capital punishment usually means those without the capital get the punishment


Posted January 27th by Brandy
Brandy

Weid man I don't remember the name "shewmake".
Also I don't remember ever talking to anyone outside of Gametalk other than an email with Xhin when I had a password problem years ago.

Sorry I can't help you.

Posted January 28th by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

I thought the sentencing was actually mishandled. He deserves the punishment itself, but the judge remarked that she was pleased to sentence him to prison for the rest of his life and expressed hope that he would be sexually assaulted in her remarks.

So we are supposed to care for the feelings of a man that preyed on little girls with no concern for how he'd be destroying their lives?

I think it really crossed the line between justice and vengeance. We should pushing for a society that is against violence and sexual assault in all forms, not inverting the violence against the supposed oppressors.

The judge gave him sentencing. Whatever else happens to him is a result of his own transgressions.


Posted January 28th by Blazer72
Blazer72
 

Like, some of the women who came forward about Roy Moore were Trump supporters who weren't asking for a settlement, and they still had an entire political party attack them for being manipulative, selfish she-devils.

Except for every member of that party that called for Moore to drop out. But I suppose I could forgive you for not being aware of this since these were really low ranking members of the party that you've likely never heard of, like Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, John McCain, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Bob Corker, and Jeb Bush, among others. If you want an example of a party rallying behind a political figure in the face of sexual assault allegations, or, as we know it in the colloquial, "bimbo eruptions", you'll have to look somewhere else.

Posted January 28th by Famov
Famov

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Posted January 28th by Weid man
Weid man
 

Pay You told me that you have me added on Facebook as a friend. Please give me a buzz (as in message me there so I know who you are on my friends list).

It wasn't me, I haven't had internet in a year and when I did I'd only check my Facebook every few months.



Posted January 28th by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

Weid man, I just sent you a friend request from facebook.

There is an Sr at the end of my name.

Edited January 28th by Psygnosis
Psygnosis

Thank you very much m, I just accepted me. You’re two years older than my parents are. You should tell your children to come on gametalk. They could probably get into gaming well like the rest of us do. My mom got me into yoshi’s Island when I was seven (she found hmthe last four red coins in touch fuzzy get dizzy and not even my cousin who is an elite gamer could find them, such as obscure location being very well hidden), and my dad played super mario kart with me the year after that but the latter mario kart’s are difficult for him to handle due to all the drifting involved an the socialist blue shell taxing you every step of the way.

Posted January 28th by Weid man
Weid man
 

You don't have to care about his feelings, Blazer. But the point is to be better than the criminal and the crime.

It goes beyond any one person. We run prisons where sexual violence inside them is a problem and we shouldn't be tolerant of it. After all, we don't want to be a country where our prisons become sanctioned rape dungeons.

Posted January 28th by Agis
Agis
 

I hope the guy lives to be ninety and never sees a window without bars on it, but I don't hope he's raped.

If we're lucky, his lawyer sucks or he's broke from hiring this one and the appeal doesn't stick. I can't really blame the judge for being angry, but she should have been more careful.

Posted January 29th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

Agis,

The judge made a comment. Nassar sexually abused hundreds of girls. How are you even equating the two?

PPFB,

Considering the magnitude of the case and the emotions involved, I wouldn't blame any judge for saying it. Point blank: Nassar is not deserving of sympathy.


Posted January 29th by Blazer72
Blazer72
 

That sexual assault is an expected - and largely accepted - eventuality for many convicts is some kind of indictment on our prison system. It should never happen. You won't find any blood leaking from my heart but this is a simple matter of prisoners still having (some) rights and rape being a horrific crime that has no justification even as a karmic punishment.

Posted January 29th by Famov
Famov

The judge made a comment. Nassar sexually abused hundreds of girls. How are you even equating the two?

He's not.

Posted January 29th by Famov
Famov

I thought the judges comments were pretty absurd. Due to the nature of the case you won't see any main stream outlets call her out, only some fringe websites.

Posted January 29th by Bubba
Bubba
 

I basically regurgitated what I read on Huffington Post.

Posted January 30th by Agis
Agis
 

Like I said - I personally would have been thrilled to hand down that sentence myself. Nassar cannot be trusted to walk in civilized society - but unfortunately, he may be doing just that in a few months if his lawyer can spin this case as an impartial judge abusing her authority. I don't blame her for being enthusiastic, I DO blame her for jeopardizing the sentence by showboating. You and I can say that, off the court record, but she's a judge and she's supposed to know better.

Posted January 30th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
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