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Is it just me and what other people have told me or are too many mental health/behavioral hospital terrible?
Posted: Posted December 7th, 2019 by Grey Echelon
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I had terrible experiences when I was in a behavioral hospital quite a bit of years ago now. Half of the staff seemed to belong in there, they'd get needlessly violent at times, make threats against someone who isn't doing anything but being quiet and laying down that they'll get shots, doctor flirts with girls at least one of which was too young for him to be acting flirty with and insults a guy for no reason calling him a pussy, you can get literally attacked and a staff can do literally nothing until it's over, get forced on medicine that may at times being addictive and may actually do the opposite of help but you're stuck with it for *at least* a week. If I recalled what I know is more than that I could on and on and on about my experiences or what I witnessed but I think my mind just tries to forget it after a while. I was put in there at the time actually for shit I didn't even do (all I know about that is in one case someone else did it so I guess someone confused me for them somehow when reporting me) from what I was told (though not entirely as I was acting in a way that could be interpreted as suicidal and I kind of was but I wasn't even told that as a reason for why I was there oddly enough) and I came out feeling even worse than I went in. And then I go look at reviews later for the place and they are all abysmal. Legit anything from full on rape by a staff to other severe abuse and much more on and on the reviews went and they were legitimately appalling every time I thought it couldn't get worse it did and to top it off, there was someone claiming to be a staff in the reviews sounding like a complete douchebag.

And then I hear from other people who have even worse experiences and they look up reviews and find pretty much what I find despite that it was a totally different hospital. Like I don't want to go digging through everything these people have said and found or dig through my memory and what I found again. But the point is everything I hear about these places is completely horrid. These places are supposed to help people and yet it sounds like it more often than not does the opposite and people unfortunate enough to end up in one are lucky if they don't end up traumatized or borderline traumatized from going in.

Do any of you find this is a real problem or know people who think it is? Because I think something seriously needs to change with these places based on what I know. Posting this in this forum because I wanted to express that I think whatever is causing these places to be allowed to get away with this should be dealt with even if through legal means especially since people often end up forced into these places and don't go by choice. Someone needs to be more regularly investigating these places or something at least.

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Jason was kinda ping-ponged between two institutions for a long time, and I guess one was awful and the other was kinda ok.

The history of psychology, mental health treatment, and these institutions is pretty rotten. (As I’m sure you know) the purpose of “insane asylums” was to hide the unsavory “insane” away from the rest of the population – just as a prison system does with “criminals.” The patients were even called inmates, too. And apparently for a while it was a fun date idea to go visit insane asylums like a zoo.

Fortunately, these days, mental illness as a grotesque entertainment device has been moved to the screens. 🙃

I’m really sorry to hear about your experiences, though. And the experiences of your friends. It’s super fucked up. You’re right, a place that is supposed to be for healing shouldn’t feel like a punishment/sentence to serve.

Edited December 7th, 2019 by Cetasaurus
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For the record, though, I do advocate that folks seek out treatments that work for them. These days a myriad of options are available, and more are being developed/discovered, and individuals in the field are often the most empathetic people (as separate from the system). It just sometimes takes a while to find a good "fit."

My first therapist messed me up.
Second one was pretty decent.
The one I have now is excellent!!!
In case you were wondering, I guess.

Edited December 7th, 2019 by Cetasaurus
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Boy... I'm realizing that institutions:bad, people:good pretty much sums up everything I've ever believed in.

(Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure Famov wrote exactly the opposite thing. EDIT: I'm not taking a dig at Famov! Just thought it was a funny coincidence).

Edited December 7th, 2019 by Cetasaurus
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Boy... I'm realizing that institutions:bad, people:good pretty much sums up everything I've ever believed in.


It goes both ways imo but ya institutions seem to be more awful more often. And ya I agree people should get help just ideally not in a way where they're essentially at the mercy of shitty people at some point or another.

Posted December 7th, 2019 by Grey Echelon
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Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure Famov wrote exactly the opposite thing.

In fact, I wrote something very similar to that in the PSL thread just moments ago! People are capable of incredible things, and I don't really think that my view of human nature is all that pessimistic, but it's worth keeping things in perspective. Most people are alright, and at the same time most people would condemn every last one of their countrymen to nuclear fire if it meant saving the lives of their loved ones.

Posted December 9th, 2019 by Famov
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You're not wrong, but the fact is there's just a limited supply of healthcare professionals, let alone good ones. These problems happen everywhere, but especially, I find places with generally large populations. #Thanosdidnothingwrong

Posted December 10th, 2019 by Recalescent Ghost
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I have had good experiences with mental hospitals; as a voluntary inpatient twice and as an outpatient three times.
So I’m not speaking from experience.

But my brother is a doctor, and our father was a doctor, and they were house-staff on several hospitals.

It seems that all hospitals that are understaffed or underfunded or overfilled, whether they’re mental hospitals or any other kind, are “bad”.

Hospitals that are well-staffed and well-resourced and not overcrowded, tend to be good, given how much it sucks to be hospitalized in the first place.

Any hospital stay can be markedly improved by visits from your friends and family. If you belong to a church it probably has a committe of volunteers who visit its hospitalized members; and another who visit its home bound members.

If you don’t belong to any worship group you may belong to some clubs; some of them have such committees too.

In an election year I bet you could get local candidates to come see you pretty frequently up til the election! If there’s a problem with the hospital they might at least promise to improve it. Entertaining fiction, in case the TV quits working!

Does any of that help any at all?

Posted January 1st by eldin raigmore
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Well I haven't been in one for a very long time so I don't personally need help with it, but when I think back or hear from other people who had really bad experiences it just really pisses me off you know? Especially with the ones who kind of don't have a choice in being there and they're at the mercy of the staff. I don't think it has to be generally terrible but I hear nothing but bad things if I was asked to ever go to one again I probably wouldn't personally. But I'm sure some people manage to have good experiences and it maybe helps them.

Posted January 2nd by Grey Echelon
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@Grey_Echelon:
I think even one bad one is one too many bad ones. I bet you agree. I meant to say it before, but forgot until I read your post.

But I’m not sure how bad one has to be, to no longer be better than nothing.

Even if it’s a good one, hospitalisation kinda sucks.
They can’t keep you until you’re “cured“; instead they kick you back to “care in the community” once you’re about 80% as well as you were before they had to take you in.
And a lot of things that would be good for you, their insurance companies won’t let them do; instead you have to wait to do them with your families after the hospital can no longer be blamed if you fuck up.



Posted January 2nd by eldin raigmore
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