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I"m getting medicated for manic depression.
Posted: Posted September 15th by tnu
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FOr a long time I went in and out of tehrapy with no real chance b ut a friend recently pointed out one of y increasingly comon manic episodes which I didn't realize I was having so now that I know w hat the specific problem could be I"m seeking means to attack it.

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I hope you get the help you need.

Posted September 15th by Legendary Albino Yao Guai
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THanks every time I would go to therapy I would just get nowehre because I would proably be in a manic epiosde or just not know ow to engage witt e therapist.

Posted September 15th by tnu
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tnu

How's the treatment working? Have you gained any weight?

Posted October 15th by Post-Wall Olga
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Be cautious about that. Sometimes those can actually end up making it worse from what I recall. I assume by now you've already started taking it though, so just look out for that and tell your doctor if it gets worse or otherwise fucks you over.

Edited November 4th by Grey Echelon
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My mom brought up an interesting point recently about how depression is a hole you're stuck in. Even if you have a shovel you can't fill the hole in while you're in it. So instead of being a shovel, antidepressants are actually a ladder -- you can't use a ladder to fill in a hole but you can use it to get out of the hole so you can actually fill it in.

Posted November 5th by Xhin
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Ground's what's around

My girlfriend is on some anti-depressant medication and it makes her tits massive. Godspeed tnu.

Posted November 5th by MarvaIo
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That would be a red flag if she's on anti-depressants. Nonetheless, hope for the best.

Posted November 6th by Post-Wall Olga
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My mom brought up an interesting point recently about how depression is a hole you're stuck in. Even if you have a shovel you can't fill the hole in while you're in it. So instead of being a shovel, antidepressants are actually a ladder -- you can't use a ladder to fill in a hole but you can use it to get out of the hole so you can actually fill it in.

Hmm. I agree with the metaphor, but I don't really think anti-depressants work, at least not always. I took some like ten years ago and gained a lot of weight, which I was able to lose once I stopped taking them. Not only did they worsen my depression, but I also felt bad about myself due to getting so fat. I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror anymore without feeling awful.

Maybe they work for others, but medications have never worked for me.

Posted November 6th by Post-Wall Olga
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@tnu:
The main problem most pshrink’s have that makes manic patients difficult to treat, is that most manic patients like being manic.
If you don’t like mania, that will make you remarkably easy to treat, compared to the average patient with your particular disorder.

To me, it sounds like your biggest stumbling block, isn’t liking the mania, but rather, not being able to tell you’re having an episode.
I’m no pshrink, but I’d guess/bet their first task, in their opinion, would be to educate you how to do that.
If you join a self-help group for bipolar disorder (I used to be in one but they’ve changed their name and I can’t remember the new name), the other members can also give you tips and techniques; and if your family and friends and housemates and workmates and schoolmates are willing to get educated too, they can really, REALLY help!

All of us with psychiatric problems sabotage our treatment sometimes; whether they have a chemical basis or not.
For manics, and others who “like” their disorders, there’s a tendency for someone who honestly wants to abide by their prescribed regimen, to accidentally invent new habits that interfere with the treatment. For instance, one guy I knew, after going on lithium, suddenly began liking salty snacks, and drinks with a diuretic side-effect. He was effectively leaching the lithium out of his system prematurely and rapidly, thus drastically reducing the effectiveness and half-life of his dose. He didn’t realize he was doing that until someone pointed it out.

One problem with some drugs is that they’re not good for you unless they fight the condition they’re prescribed for. If you don’t have one of those conditions, you’d be healthier not taking the drug. So be sure you talk to your therapist about that.

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My problem is unipolar depression, not bipolar manic-depression. But I have a true story that might encourage anyone with a problem for which drugs might help.
The frontal lobes are connected by a “wire” that’s modest-sized in normal people, and in depressed people who’ve never made any progress in combatting their illness without drugs. But, in those of us who have had some success, or at least repeated good effort, in fighting the illness by non-medicinal means, this “wire” is more like a cable or a hauser.
It turns out that the patients who get the most benefit out of the modern (e.g. SSRI and SNRI) medications, tend to be the ones in whom this ‘wire” is thickest.

Your brain actually resembles a muscle or a bone in this respect; a part you exercise can be changed by the exercise, to be more capable of doing what you’ve been trying to do.
My way of looking at it is; there is no such thing as a failed effort. Every genuine effort produces a benefit; it’s just not always immediately visible.
There are some things some people probably can’t do by themselves; but most people can get better with help. However, nearly all help co-requires effort on the helpee’s part to be effective.

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I hope that wasn’t too long?


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