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Because of their awesome sales. x.x Now, if only I had a proper pc to play them all. Haha. They were having some sales so I bought a few. I limited myself to five, but I wanted more. I believe the sales are up till July 4th?

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All you need to play even the biggest games today are an i5 and a GTX 1050 ti. Integrated graphics can get you by on lower settings. It's not like before when RAM was such a huge issue: most games still run on less than 4 GB of RAM, but almost every computer nowadays runs on 8 GB minimum. Even laptops!

The same price as a pricy gaming console can get you a decent laptop. $1,000 is the magic mark where you can get stunning gaming PCs and laptops, but it's not necessary.

Posted June 22nd by mariomguy
mariomguy

Yeah most gaming PCs are well above $1500, but I’m on a budget. I’d like to build my own one day though.

Posted June 23rd by Castrael
Castrael

You can build a high-end workstation for $1400. You definitely won't need all that for gaming, though. Few games really require a modern i7 (6-cores, 12 threads). Most perform very well on an i5 (6 cores) or an i3 (4 cores), and 8 GB of RAM.

The GPU is the biggest factor nowadays that determines what you can play, so that's the part you don't want to compromise on. A decent gaming PC might look something like this:

i3-8300 - $145
GTX 1050 ti - $210
8 GB RAM - $80
250 GB SSD - $80
Motherboard - $100
PSU - $50
Case - $50

Windows - $100

Total: $815

Assuming you're keeping your monitor, speakers, mouse, and keyboard, and just replacing the case, you can build a brand new PC that's great for gaming for around $800.

Posted June 23rd by mariomguy
mariomguy


The same price as a pricy gaming console can get you a decent laptop

point me in the direction of a decent 200 dollar laptop.

Posted June 23rd by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

$800 can still be a bit steep for most people.

An X1S is going for 1/4th that price right now on amazon.

Posted June 23rd by Q
Q
 

You can prob pick up an og used Xbox one for less than 200 dollars.

Posted June 24th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

But unlike consoles, you only upgrade the parts you need to. The only parts that must change together are the motherboard, CPU, and RAM. Once you start with your first PC, you can reuse and interchange parts for many years. I'm still running my old i7 from 2012. To make it run blazing fast, I upgraded the HDD to a 1TB SSD and the graphics card from a GT 640 to a GTX 960 FTW. Now I'm going to go back and change the CPU, Motherboard, and RAM, but keep the same graphics card and SSD for a while.

Nowadays, upgrades are taking longer to materialize, so consoles are more justified. An Xbox One X is practically a GTX 1060 or 1070. But you can use parts cheaper than what I listed: keep your case, save $50. If you purchased a copy of Windows for whatever reason, you can transfer the license and save $100. A GTX 1050 isn't bad: you can save $50 right there, or you can save the full $200 and just stick with the integrated graphics (not recommended, but doable if your favorite games are not graphics-intensive). You can reuse your old PSU as long as your GPU isn't going to hog it.

And, guys, this is not just a gaming-specific device. This is a computer you can use for work.

Posted June 24th by mariomguy
mariomguy

Out of curiosity what games do you play on PC?

Posted June 24th by Moonray
Moonray
 

@mariomguy: Thanks, I’ll keep those in mind. I’ve been looking around. For budget means, my price tag is somewhere around $1500. I was almost considering a Mac, but they’re so expensive. I’d have to save around $2,000.

@Moonray: I’ve picked up mostly Jrpg games. Tales of Berseria was finally on sale so I grabbed it and a few others. I don’t plan on picking up games like Call of Duty, etc.

Posted June 24th by Castrael
Castrael

For budget means, my price tag is somewhere around $1500.

Pfft. That's not a budget build, that's a top-of-the-line, state-of-the-art build. This should be superior for gaming, and you really shouldn't go any higher than this:

CPU: Intel i5-8400 - $170
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1060 - $230
PSU: 400-450 watt platinum, or 400 watt gold - $50 - $120
RAM: 16 GB 2666 Mhz DDR4 - $180
SSD: 1 TB Samsung Evo - $240
Motherboard: $100
Case: Pick one! $50 - $100
OS: Windows 10 - $100
Extras (Fans, cables, lighting, etc.) - $50

Total: $1,170 - $1,290

There's really no need to bloat the price beyond this. If you need more than 1 TB hard disk space, get a second HDD. You only need liquid cooling for overclocking: totally not necessary for gaming. Faster RAM is not going to help much when the CPU only runs 2400 Mhz (you will only see benefit when overclocking, why I suggested 2666 Mhz), and 16 GB is a REAL stretch: that's how much is recommended for professional workstations, not gaming! You can spend more on the GPU, but the price increases exponentially and you get far less bang-for-your-buck doing so. An i5 is already much for gaming, you won't have a CPU bottleneck with it.

There's no need to spend beyond $1,300 on components for a gaming PC. I configured something similar for a friend, and he said it's basically the greatest computer he ever used, and everyone who ever worked on it loved it. More expensive parts than this don't give you any real benefit for gaming and are just for show.

I'm struggling to find a good reason to break your budget. You can do anything with $1,500.

Posted June 24th by mariomguy
mariomguy

Still waiting for that 200 dollar laptop that is better for gaming than an entry level console.

Posted June 24th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Still waiting for that 200 dollar laptop that is better for gaming than an entry level console.


He said "pricey gaming console", not "entry level console".

The PlayStation 3 and Xbox One cost $500 at launch. I bought a HP Pavilion g7 for $500 in 2012. Despite only having integrated Intel graphics, it could play Crysis, Left 4 Dead 2, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and ArmA II/DayZ dependably.

Posted June 24th by Cruinn-Annuin
Cruinn-Annuin

That's cool but I'm sure he was comparing them to todays prices and twice as sure that he considers any of the current gen consoles "pricey gaming consoles"

And even so that "entry" level console can play all the games that an Xbox one X can play with relatively no issue. A 200 dollar laptop not so much.

Posted June 24th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

It doesn't make the most sense, but that might just be how he was thinking of it.

Posted June 24th by Cruinn-Annuin
Cruinn-Annuin

Integrated graphics are basically as powerful as a 1040, if such a product exists. You can game fairly well on modern CPUs without needing a graphics card, but if you want to game at an enthusiast level, or higher-than 1080p resolutions, you'll need to step up to the GTX series.

A low-end PC might look something like this:

CPU: i3-8300 - $145
RAM: 8 GB DDR4 - $80
250 GB SSD - $80
Motherboard - $100
PSU: 300-350 watt bronze - $50
Case - $40
OS: Windows 10 - $100

Total: $595

Or, you can just buy a laptop. Any laptop will do.

Posted June 24th by mariomguy
mariomguy

any laptop will do

I doubt that any entry to mid level laptop will be able to run a modern AAA game.

Posted June 24th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

I'll have to take a look a PC Part Picker again. Thanks @mariomguy. I got some ideas. I'm thinking of building mine. I'll probably look around on YouTube for How to tutorials. When I make it, I'll show a picture of it.

Posted June 24th by Castrael
Castrael

In other news, Resident Evil 4 is on sale for $5. All content from all console versions included. I'm going to be spending a lot of time in the dark with that game...maybe I'll even finally unlock the Handcannon.

Posted June 24th by Cruinn-Annuin
Cruinn-Annuin

I doubt that any entry to mid level laptop will be able to run a modern AAA game.

Nowadays, a brand-new low-level laptop has a more powerful CPU than an i5 a few years ago, and its graphics would be more powerful than a workstation 6 years ago. The interesting thing is computer displays aren't quick to update resolutions they way they did previously, so while the demands for more pixel rendering has balanced, graphics hardware and middleware/software processes and optimizations continue to improve. This results in lower-end modern CPUs becoming very capable of rendering higher quality graphics on modern games. On lower settings, virtually any computer can play nearly any game.

I'll have to take a look a PC Part Picker again. Thanks @mariomguy. I got some ideas. I'm thinking of building mine. I'll probably look around on YouTube for How to tutorials. When I make it, I'll show a picture of it.

I'd love to see that! For gaming I would prioritize the SSD and GPU over the RAM and CPU. Keep in mind to install the OS you need to have either a CD drive for the installation disk or you'll need Windows on a bootable USB thumbdrive. If you have any questions, please let me know!

Posted June 24th by mariomguy
mariomguy

Its great to know an entry level console will blow out an entry/ mid their lap top.




Posted June 24th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

@nul stream re4 pls. For I can make fun of you :^)

Posted June 24th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

In other news, Resident Evil 4 is on sale for $5. All content from all console versions included. I'm going to be spending a lot of time in the dark with that game...maybe I'll even finally unlock the Handcannon.
dang, that's a nice deal. Anyone who actually hasn't managed to play that game yet should consider that.

Keep in mind to install the OS you need to have either a CD drive for the installation disk or you'll need Windows on a bootable USB thumbdrive.
having flashbacks to when my main hard drive started failing a few months back and the ensuing ordeal (microsoft can suck a fat one tbh). Bootable USB is a hero.

Posted June 24th by Pirate_Ninja
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