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some one was saying that we should focus more on videogame discussion.


I tried to show my friend this site this morning and they asked me why there was so much racist dribble on newest replies... Needless to say she has no interest in posting here.

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And what race is she? Just out of curiosity.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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German/ thai.


If I may quote

"What a bunch of man children"

and I have to agree with her analysis.

Posted July 29th by Soh
Soh
 

Ah so I'm guessing she's super serious and has a stick up her ass about most things. :)

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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The only ways we could fix this:

1. Ban people for talking about racist issues, even if it's not overtly offensive. This will only happen over my cold, dead body.

2. Reduce the forums to only video-game-related forums and disallow any off-topic discussion. This will only happen over the cold, dead bodies of many of the site regulars. And even then, people will find a way to talk about race in video games - especially with SJW clickbait garmes jurnalizm articles from Kotaku or whatever the shithole of the week is.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin

Ah so I'm guessing she's super serious and has a stick up her ass about most things. :)


To be fair, a lot of the people here, yourself included, have a really shitty and insecure perception of race.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin

The world forum is cancerous for sure. I banned myself from the site a couple weeks ago and it unbanned me.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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I'm mildly racist, sure, but it's not like I can stop being racist - so why stop me from talking about it? I don't wish anyone harm or misfortune.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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I mean the amount of "MUH WHITE NATION" Posts is not going to attract members to this dying site. Its going to do the opposite.

Like I said man children.

Even I m starting to feel a little odd opening newest replies and seeing all this dribble on mobile. It is depressing to see how bad this site has gotten. At this point I'm not going to move to advertise this site if it means explaining why there are a handful of users who still cry over their racial background like it means anything in today's day and age. Good luck to the advertising team.

Guess its a sign from above for me muchachos. Keep fighting the good fight nul. I enjoy seeing your fair moderation efforts.

Edited July 29th by S.o.h
S.o.h
 

Null is still around?

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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I'm mildly racist, sure, but it's not like I can stop being racist


As I said in the other thread, I might be racist as well, but I use my fucking head.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin

It's not like I wouldn't save a black kid from being hit by a car or protest apartheid if it was a thing here. At least I'm honest that I'd prefer to be with my own kind. I don't need racial problems and stigma in my life.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Hey SOH, try advertising not-world:
http://gtx0.com/index.php?forum=newest&mode=rep¬=30
Problem is, that's where most of the activity is.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

I can imagine how one's first impression of a site being adults calling each other cuck nazi racist snowflakes could be a turn-off.

Posted July 29th by Vandy

Heh xhin racist dribble was all over newest replies. And no more advertising for me. I'm outtie.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Yeah this was like the absolute worst period of time to advertise. TWO posts about race. Wtf were you thinking?

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

I mean you could ban #85 and myself and delete the racist threads? I tried to ban myself but it unbanned me even though I said October.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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Imagine walking into an establishment and seeing a real-life 85, red leaf, knuckles and brandy arguing over racism.

Posted July 29th by Vandy

I would be the most reasonable person at that table.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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I hadn't been on here for weeks and the first post I entered was about Israel taking away right from Non-Jews and I made some anti-Jewish posts in context to that and got called a racist. So I made a thread saying being racist is ok as long as you dfon't hurt anyone.

I guess to appease poptart I should agree with the regime in Israel. It's not racist as long as it's pro-Jew.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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Wtf were you thinking?

don't blame me. It is your backwards site. Most boards dont allow such retarded dribble to be posted. Nor do they allow such radical idiots on their boards. And don't act like shit like that isn't posted all the time. Was I suppose to wait for the next full moon to show her the one or two times this sites newest replies isn't filled with racial, anti Semitic, holocaust denying garbage?

I've said it before but what's gonna happen when new users with a Jewish background start posting here. A handful of your regulars are going to scare them off biggly.


you need to decide what you want this site to be. I'm not going to bother bringing anybody I know onto this site. Its not worth the embarrassment or the raised eye brows.

Imagine walking into an establishment and seeing a real-life 85, red leaf, knuckles and brandy arguing over racism

id imagine it to be like an episode of Sienfeld. Add the British man to the equation and you got goooooold..

Edited July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Maybe we should get together and make a sitcom if you think we could make money off it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP2GMyQdw78

Edited July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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The problem is that this site is already dead it just isn't buried yet. Nothing can revive it. You ban your free radicals and you have no members left. What can Xhin do from his position?

Close the site. It's the only option.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

The only ways we could fix this:


Third Solution: remove "sensitive" or even go as far as all non-gaming forums from Newest Replies. (latter probably only works if there is enough activity to support multiple gaming forums).

Yeah this was like the absolute worst period of time to advertise. TWO posts about race. Wtf were you thinking?


This is the absolute worst opinion to have as the site owner. SOH should be able to advertise the site whenever he can/wants. If you think this is the "worst" time possible then perhaps you agree with him that there is a problem?

Edited July 29th by Moonray
Moonray
 

The only real free radical is 85.


And no. If anything it would make it a much more pleasant site to navigate and engage in. We have really nice users here but today S events just show how easily eclipsed the rest of the is when all this shit is brought to the forefront especially when its becoming a weekly if not daily thing.

I'm sure the users of this site are tired of trying to shut down this nonsense. Especially when it's obvious that no ones opinion is gonna change on the matter.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Communist S.O.H. wants to "ban radicals."

you know who else wanted to ban radicals? Hitler

On a more serious note, Knokkel Millenium 2000 isn't helping the situation by attacking every unrecognized user as a 'random name troll.'

Posted July 29th by Random Name Troll

I don't think getting rid of posts because you don't like their content is a good idea.

Posted July 29th by #85
#85

You spelt progressive republican wrong.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 


I don't think getting rid of posts because you don't like their content is a good idea.

this is rich coming from the guy who wants to ban leftist speech.

I don't care about the "content" you post but when it becomes increasingly obvious that its becoming detriminal to the advertising efforts and over all growth of this site something has to be done. It needs to be addressed.

we also need to establish what type of community we want. No offense to you and your racially insecure ilk but no one in the active user base wants this to become a stormfront 2.0 or a Antifa Anarchy board.




Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Keeping world off the newest replies is probably the most ideal quick fix. And limiting posts like mine and #85's to that board unless they are about gaming.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Posted July 29th by Pirate_Ninja

Also rename World Hell because it sounds cooler.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Imagine walking into an establishment and seeing a real-life 85, red leaf, knuckles and brandy arguing over racism.


I mean I don't get why I'm mentioned. Clearly the problem is just racism not "arguing over racism".

I would be the most reasonable person at that table.


Pft.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Being racist is like being gay it's not a choice. We can't choose what we like and don't like.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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I mean you could ban #85 and myself and delete the racist threads? mean you could ban #85 and myself and delete the racist threads?


Still prettttty sure that already happened. I assumed it would be for longer though since he seemed to be ban evading.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

I don't care about the "content" you post but when it becomes increasingly obvious that its becoming detriminal to the advertising efforts and over all growth of this site something has to be done. It needs to be addressed. 

Maybe you'd like twitter better. They do that kind of over policing based on feelings but this site has always supported free speech which itself is a draw.

Posted July 29th by #85
#85

Being racist is like being gay it's not a choice. We can't choose what we like and don't like.


Only if you choose to have no control over it forever. It's really not the same thing and even then, the reasons that people are gay or bi is a bit more complicated and various than some people like to believe. Also saying that just gave me deja vu for some reason.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

I assumed it would be for longer though since he seemed to be ban evading.

I love when people don't mind their own business and jump in not knowing what occured but still weigh in.

Posted July 29th by #85
#85

For reference, I am a straight guy and standing around listening to black people intentionally use improper grammar and do their weird secret handshakes and call everyone dawg is about as pleasant for me as cupping another guy's balls in my hand and smiling at him.

I can't help it, I am geared up to not like that shit. I would still give a black guy CPR if he collapsed. I am not heartless I'm just racist.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

On a more serious note, Knokkel Millenium 2000 isn't helping the situation by attacking every unrecognized user as a 'random name troll.'


At least your name is self-aware this time.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Blast from [the] Masse:

I will moderate this forum at discretion (my discretion), trying to do the best I can to keep it the way we all like it: a place where we can debate anything and everything, even vehemently if it so happens, but honestly (or was that earnestly?).


The key words being "anything and everything."

Posted July 29th by Random Name Troll

I love when people don't mind their own business and jump in not knowing what occured but still weigh in.


I know that there was every reason to believe you were banned even beyond this and I know that there were posts with variations of your name for no particular reason being deleted and mods didn't deny that you were banned in a thread where it was brought up.

So what if it wasn't you? It sure seemed likely it was. I also don't see why you need to deny that you're ban evading like, if you were clearly it didn't matter anyway since you're here.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

#85 is part of the family. I don't think he should be banned indefinitely.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Wtf were you thinking?


Sit down, lad. If whatever is on the site is such a problem that you feel like reprimanding someone trying to show the site off, then we need to work on the rules and moderation more.

Being racist is like being gay it's not a choice


Holy fuck.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin

Cruinn are you Null?

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Also why aren't posts like the posts from "Random Name Troll" and "Damn It Feels Good to be a Snowfl" just tagged? They add nothing of value anyway. Like how obvious does it need to be their first post in this thread is just trolling?

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

"Yeah this was like the absolute worst period of time to advertise. TWO posts about race. Wtf were you thinking?"

this is how the site is. "two" is better than the more common "four." this is why i dropped out of the ad team - i'm not going to work for free for something that I'm embarrassed to put on my resume

Posted July 29th by poptart!

Cruinn are you Null?


I am Cruinn-Annuin. I used to post as "nullfather", but I do not anymore.

Also why aren't posts like the posts from "Random Name Troll" and "Damn It Feels Good to be a Snowfl" just tagged? They add nothing of value anyway. Like how obvious does it need to be their first post in this thread is just trolling?


Using altnames is not actionable. Their first post in this thread is briefly joking but also appears to bring up a serious criticism of you. That is not actionable, either.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin


Maybe you'd like twitter better. They do that kind of over policing based on feelings but this site has always supported free speech which itself is a draw.


what good is free speech when there is no one here to use it? And no there are various restrictions on speech on this site. We banned a couple of lizards for sexual role-playing last I checked among other things.

like I said it needs to be addressed. We need to decide what's good for the site. And your constant yelling about "my whiteness!" Is going to do more harm than good.

it is down right embarrassing trying to advertise this site only for potential users to see that we harbor a bunch of man children who are fixated on race.

if we are going to move to keep such a population than lets tuck them away where the masses can't see it unless they look for it and understand what they want to get into.

the filtering option for this site is trash and only works well if you are logged in. Defeating the purpose of a drop in and drop out website with no registration.

how about we label all posts posted in world as NSFW and filter them out from newest replies with an option to view all NSFW posts if a user wants to? And a disclaimer that one needs to agree to when viewing the world forum as a general/random poster?

=I'm not entirely worried about users like 85 being removed. If they were to be removed it will be due to their own stupid actions just like TRE.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Their first post in this thread is briefly joking but also appears to bring up a serious criticism of you.


"A serious criticism". Are you fucking stupid?

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Regs: We need to get more people on the site. Let's advertise

Wilson Smith: Hey guys!

Knokkel: "OH LOOK ANOTHER RANDOM NAME. MODS?"

Posted July 29th by Random Name Troll

Knokkel: "OH LOOK ANOTHER RANDOM NAME. MODS?"


Ya because it makes sense for some random name to just show up ONLY to start trouble like you are right now or to act like a fucking weirdo for no reason. ON THIS SITE. That makes fucking sense. Only one I may have been wrong about is Irish_Mythologist and even then, it would have only been because of some bullshit some random name asshole was able to do with the people tab.

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Blast from [the] Masse:


one masse is dead and gone. Two we have two moderators who are fairly inactive by no real fault of their own. Three those rules mean jackshit when the rest of the site can view said questionable post. Said posts are gonna drive new users off.

also if you are at work and happen to check into the site during your break using a work computer the IT peeps can see what you are looking at right? Whats gonna happen when you load up newest replies and are greeted with a bunch of racist dribble.

sure an argument can be made that you shouodnt be viewing the website at work but come on. I would imagine said racist dribble can land you in HR for a small talk.

also thank you for putting xhin in check. I had a far less kind response I wanted to give him but I rather thr post not be tagged.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I tried to show my friend this site this morning and they asked me why there was so much racist dribble on newest replies... Needless to say she has no interest in posting here.


She didn't even get to see how we talk about women.

Posted July 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

Holy shit I don't even think I'm mod material at all but even I'm starting to think the only way this site could be turned around is if I was promoted to admin above the content team. It doesn't seem like something will ever be done about all of this shit unless it was actually me.

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

one masse is dead and gone.

Wow.

And the constitution is just a damn piece of paper?

also if you are at work and happen to check into the site during your break using a work computer the IT peeps can see what you are looking at right? Whats gonna happen when you load up newest replies and are greeted with a bunch of racist dribble.

The problem in your scenario is more with H.R. than anyone on the site. If they looked at it in any depth they'd see replies from antiracists (and so you could tell them). Why should you be responsible for other people's words?

Posted July 29th by Random Name Troll

I'm starting to think the only way this site could be turned around is if I was promoted to admin above the content team. It doesn't seem like something will ever be done about all of this shit unless it was actually me.


What would you do? Offer some ideas for us to consider.

Posted July 29th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

What would you do? Offer some ideas for us to consider.


Ban random name trolls, ban #85, warn I Killed Mufasa, warn Poptart. That's how we solve this situation right now that is developing as we speak even in the politics forum, that other joke thread aside.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

"Ban random name trolls, ban #85, warn I Killed Mufasa, warn Poptart."

is this the gtx0 version of kill-marry-fuck?

Posted July 29th by poptart!

Oh ya I'll have to warn myself too asking if someone is fucking stupid.

is this the gtx0 version of kill-marry-fuck?


Nope.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Ban random name trolls


I ban people that clearly troll. Being somewhat critical or joking isn't trolling, however.

ban #85


I've already done this once. Repeated offenses justify longer bans.

warn I Killed Mufasa, warn Poptart


I literally just did this.

Posted July 29th by Cruinn-Annuin

I ban people that clearly troll.


You're doing a bad job of it then.

Being somewhat critical or joking isn't trolling, however.


Chances are this is guy has already been banned before and there is absolutely no reason for him to care about my criticism unless he was one of the ones doing something wrong or weird which, the latter isn't an offense unless they're breaking the rules. But this guy is literally just here to cause trouble. I don't see how the fuck you can't see this.

I've already done this once. Repeated offenses justify longer bans.


Do it longer then if you really care about what people like SOH's friend thinks then.

I literally just did this.


Where?

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium


And the constitution is just a damn piece of paper

cute


The problem in your scenario is more with H.R. than anyone on the site. If they looked at it in any depth they'd see replies from antiracists (and so you could tell them). Why should you be responsible for other people's words?

those words don't need to be so readily accessible.

She didn't even get to see how we talk about women.

I should have emailed Famov .

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

We don't talk about women. Or men. We only talk about reptilian mole people.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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I don't recall being warned, Null. What am I being warned for?

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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This is the absolute worst opinion to have as the site owner. SOH should be able to advertise the site whenever he can/wants. If you think this is the "worst" time possible then perhaps you agree with him that there is a problem?

Good point.

don't blame me. It is your backwards site. Most boards dont allow such retarded dribble to be posted. Nor do they allow such radical idiots on their boards. And don't act like shit like that isn't posted all the time. Was I suppose to wait for the next full moon to show her the one or two times this sites newest replies isn't filled with racial, anti Semitic, holocaust denying garbage?

Also good point.


Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

Xhin why don't you just let this place die? Serious question.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Also okay probably the sanest idea at this point:

Nevermind, there's a better idea further down. Will probably be even better ideas after that.

Edited July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

Not world 2, Hell.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Since you probably won't let me mod the hell forum, at least let me name it.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Maybe I'm wrong but I think that would annoy the World forum as you're basically splitting them in two.

Posted July 29th by Moonray
Moonray
 

It's necessary though.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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Since you probably won't let me mod the hell forum, at least let me name it.


Unfortunately we already have a hell forum...
http://gtx0.com/index.php?forum=%20

Edited July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

The Actual Satan forum then.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Clean up world so that all the really controversial stuff gets moved there. 

What if we think things are fine? Who decides what is controversial. Why would we want to police "controversial" topics in a political forum?

Posted July 29th by #85
#85

Who decides what is controversial.

Society?

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
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What if we think things are fine?

"We" don't, or this thread wouldn't exist.

Who decides what is controversial.

The Content Team, ultimately. Concerned users in the short term.

Why would we want to police "controversial" topics in a political forum?

It's either that or hide the world forum entirely.

Honestly the idea needs some work. Having more forums isn't a great idea. Maybe we could just hide controversial posts unless you have something enabled -- that's probably a better idea.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

just biting the bullet and permabanning ~2 people (#85 and the name-changing troll) would, for the most part, solve the problem instantly. that would be enough to dramatically shift the site's culture in a more positive direction. IKM posts racist shit sometimes but not often enough to be a problem

Edited July 29th by poptart!

Censorship

Posted July 29th by #85
#85

^ more like removal of troublemakers.

there aren't very many people on this site who

1) aren't interested in good-faith debate, just provocation and propaganda
2) aren't interested in befriending anyone here, just creating a hostile environment

if you want this to be a friendly community that new people would like to be a part of... get rid of the nazis.

Edited July 29th by poptart!

I actually do like having #85 here. I'd be cool with having TRE here too if he ever came back. It's good to be exposed to different opinions that aren't just a circlejerk of those different opinions. Provided that it doesn't drag the site down, which is definitely a permanent problem that affects pretty much the entire internet.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

.

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

spiritually dangerous

Those are not words I see together often. What do you mean?

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

it is dragging the site down. no one wants to join an alt-right cesspit. we already have reasonable people on the right and left here (famov, SA, pacman, S.O.H., jet presto). by no means a circlejerk. we would survive having a couple of trolls removed. look at how hostile they make this place - why do you think people are leaving every few months? why don't you think we're getting new members? you should have done something about the tone of this community from the beginning (even though i wouldn't be here if that were the case).

this isn't a problem for the entire internet - the best communities have harsh moderation policies (r/askhistorians).

Edited July 29th by poptart!

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Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

"I actually do like having #85 here"

when is the last time #85 had an actual conversation here instead of taking an antagonistic stance? years ago when he was reading the game of thrones books? come the fuck on.

Posted July 29th by poptart!

why do you think people are leaving every few months?

That's been happening for years and will continue to happen regardless of the changes we make here (unless we actually get new people).

I'm not saying we should change nothing, just that people are going to continue to mature and spend less time here and any changes we make might push that along or might prevent it, but it'll still happen regardless of what we do.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

Honestly though if it came down to it, I'd rather have you on the advertising team than #85 on the site. You bring more value.

We're discussing this issue in the mod forum and content team closet at the moment too, so *something* will come out of it *somehow*.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

one of the top complaints: the world forum dominates the site and makes it toxic. remove the toxic element from the world forum.

Posted July 29th by poptart!

"We're discussing this issue in the mod forum and content team closet at the moment too, so *something* will come out of it *somehow*."

good - something really needs to change. the site stopped being fun awhile ago, and that needs to come back before anything can move forward.

Posted July 29th by poptart!

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Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

IKM posts racist shit sometimes but not often enough to be a problem

To be fair I've only been back for 2 days. You made personal attacks on me and said I should be physically damaged which is just as toxic as anything I post. Pretty sure we used to like each other so I dunno what happened there.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

test

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Damn SOH. Good on you for trying to bring in a new user, but showing Gtx0 to some chick you know in real life? Yeeesh.

Posted July 29th by Agis
Agis
 

but showing Gtx0 to some chick you know in real life? Yeeesh.




Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

She's a far bigger nerd/ gamer than I am figured she would enjoy some of th3 discussion. Way to fuck it up guys.

Its not the first friend I've tried to bring on here. It is definitely the last.

Posted July 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Way to fuck it up guys.


I mean if it's about the racism alone then it's pretty clear that's specific people and not us. Just saying since that sounds so general.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Its very much the admins/staffs fault ad well. All of this crap should have been addressed years ago. Better late than never I guess.

Posted July 29th by S.o h
S.o h
 

Oh well ya I agree with that. The inaction with quite a bit of things has been annoying.

Posted July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

I'm just here to get the 100th reply. Don't mind me.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

Its very much the admins/staffs fault ad well. All of this crap should have been addressed years ago

I take full blame for everything. The content team has done a lot of good work lately, as have the other mods over time.

Posted July 29th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

"Pretty sure we used to like each other so I dunno what happened there."

i was ok with you until you became racist. racists are only slightly better than pedophiles

Posted July 29th by poptart!

i was ok with you until you became racist. racists are only slightly better than pedophiles


Eh. Imo they're much better than racists, but only the kinds who have a weird attraction and stuff like that. If they're molesters or something similar though then ya I agree.

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

hahaha "racists are worse than non-acting pedos" is a pretty hot take - i'm sure that'd piss off the cernovich fans quite a bit so i can appreciate that. but imo all 3 deserve the same punishment so i guess it doesnt matter to rank them

Posted July 29th by poptart!

Haha hot take is thrown around quite a bit in a discord server I'm in. But I feel for them especially when they're going out their way to not hurt anyone. Double especially if they're doing everything in their power to overcome it. I'm not trying to normalize it either it's just like. I wish people would realize some people are actually going out their way to avoid harming anyone and stop acting like they're Satan incarnate. But ya again, the ones who do worse fuck them.

Edited July 29th by KnokkelMillennium

Okay, but if you put me on a scale of how racist I am with +10 being I wanna bang every minority I encounter regardless of gender and -10 being Himmler, I'm about a -0.5.

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-0.5 - I'm here. I passively avoid nonwhites and wish no ill will toward them. I will still talk with and help them if I have to.
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Edited July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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Are you predijace against italians

Posted July 29th by Brandy

I wouldn't even know if someone was Italian or not. I like Mario though.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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Like, to put this in perspective, people who nag me are at like a -3. They're 6 times more annoying to me than people of minority races.

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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Well i ASK because their white but a lot of white peoples are predijace against them

Posted July 29th by Brandy

Well, The Roman empire were a bunch of assholes but they never made it into Ireland so my people didn't give a shit. I love pizza and pasta so how could I fault Italy?

Posted July 29th by I killed Mufasa
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"But I feel for them especially when they're going out their way to not hurt anyone. Double especially if they're doing everything in their power to overcome it. I'm not trying to normalize it either it's just like. I wish people would realize some people are actually going out their way to avoid harming anyone and stop acting like they're Satan incarnate"

i don't necessarily believe these people.

"I'm here. I passively avoid nonwhites and wish no ill will toward them. I will still talk with and help them if I have to."

you don't get to decide for yourself how racist you are. i put you at -5 with your "jews run the world" delusions.

Posted July 29th by poptart!

look dude, here's my honest opinion of you, no hiding behind irony and sneers:

i get it, you were bullied and even injured by people of another race. that really fucking sucks, and acknowledging that this happened to you doesn't make you a racist (ian mackeye of minor threat wrote "guilty of being white" because he was bullied in his majority-black school - he's absolutely not a racist and intended for it to be an antiracist song). it's also totally understandable to have some anxiety and fear around black people now, but you should recognize that it's irrational, that the despicavle actions of a few shouldn't reflect on the whole.

what gets me is how you've completely bought into the rhetoric of white supremacists and neo-nazis. that's what's inexcusable.

Posted July 30th by poptart!

Disprove the sentiment then.

-5 is half as racist as Himmler according to my chart, so fuck you.

I live by a "It's not racist if it's true" mantra. And Jews DO have control over banks and media and are currently engaging in apartheid in Israel. The reason why this is a racial issue rather than a national crisis is because only Jews have rights in Israel. If you or me lived there we would be shit out of luck. How can I not condemn that?

I don't wish any ill will toward Jews. At most I'm maybe a -1 when it comes to Jews just because I am perhaps more racist against Jews than other races just because I know they're the ones ruining lives out there. But I am probably a -0.25 racist against hispanics and asians so it evens out to -0.5.

If I was a -5 it would mean I want to hurt minorities half as much as Himmler hurts them. But I just want to avoid them in most cases, and I want to verbally condemn the Jewish built apartheid in Israel.

That's the extent of how far my racism goes. If a Jewish man collapsed in front of me I would perform CPR.

So re-evaluate me more fairly.

Edited July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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i'm not sure why you conflate israel (which i am more than happy to criticize) with "jews" or why you would conflate "jewish bankers" with "jews." by the way, jewish people aren't the only bankers (the disproportionate representation is for cultural reasons not racial reasons). are you sure your problem isn't with the capitalists who are running the show? why turn a class issue into a racial issue when it doesn't need to be? there are poor jews, poor whites and poor blacks, and the capitalists fuck them all

Edited July 30th by poptart!

Maybe that is my error. But my only Jewish friend (and I actually like this guy) has stolen 500 bucks from me and 2200 from my other friend, and while he is likable and has endearing qualities - it paints a picture for me that even likable Jews can't really be trusted.

Every time I see this guy he wants to borrow money and I can just tell I'll never see it again. 500 bucks isn't enough to lose my friendship but I will never buy anything for him or lend him anything ever again.

I know there are probably good Jews out there, but I've never met one. I've met nice Blacks, Asians, Latinas, Whites, Natives. I've never met a Jew who wasn't trying to trick me out of my resources.

I have faith that they exist, Pop. But seeing is often believing. And Rothschilds, Zuckerbergs, Rockefellers, Zionists, The leadership of israel, jewish bankers... that's a lot of evil jews to make up for the hoards of friendly jews that apparently exist.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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I do hate capitalism, but if Jews control the banks then they control capitalism too. I would be happy to have a reasonable discussion about it. I am always open to change my mind. I don't want to be racist, I am ashamed of it, but I am what I am.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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I love how this thread was inspired by me posting a new york times article, as if i brought it up. I simply shared a mainstream source, in the political forum, and people are complaining in a partisan fashion.

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

Like when I say Jews control the banks, I acknowledge that not ALL the Jews control them. But Jews in some number do control them. Same with Israel's leadership. It's not every Jew, but it is Jews.

Edited July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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1) confirmation bias
2) if you think "i hate capitalists" and "lots of jewish people are bankers" should = "i hate jewish people" ... then i'm still putting you at -5

Posted July 30th by poptart!

-5 would be I want to beat up Jews with a rifle. Which is obviously false. You're really not grasping that the - end of the spectrum has a correlation to Himmler.

Secondly, do you want to have a reasonable discussion or not?

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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"I love how this thread was inspired by me posting a new york times article, as if i brought it up. I simply shared a mainstream source, in the political forum, and people are complaining in a partisan fashion"

lol you think your highly editorialized title didn't have anything to do with it you nazi fuck?

Posted July 30th by poptart!

lol you think your highly editorialized title didn't have anything to do with it you nazi fuck?

Was there a lie somewhere in the title?

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

"do you want to have a reasonable discussion or not?"

i did but you keep talking like jews are the only people who have ever oppressed people. why doesn't himmler represent all germans or all white people in your mind? why doesn't pinochet represent all chileans? the KKK all white people? the apartheid govt all white people? the rhodesian government all white people? christopher columbus all italians? the conquistadors all spaniards? donald trump all white people?

because you've either absolutely swallowed the white supremacist peopaganda (meaning you're too dumb to reason with - you only respond to emotional appeals) or you're not being entirely honest with me & the sympathetic back story about your head injuries is a front for your intent to spread WS/WN propaganda (in which case you're beyond help).

so no thanks, no serious discussion to be had here. just know that i've lost a lot of respect for you today

Posted July 30th by poptart!

I am not sure why you're saying confirmation bias when it's a proven fact that Jewish people have disproportionately high numbers in positions of power compared to their numbers in society as a whole.

I can buy into the idea of not hating Jews as a race since there are some innocent Jewish bystanders who don't deserve to be condemned. But how am I supposed to despise Jewish bankers, rothschilds, rockefellers, zuckerberg, and Israel's leadership collectively - acknowledging that all of them are Jews, but not say or think Jews?

All the presidents before Obama were white. Wouldn't it be safe to say that 2007 and back white power was unchallenged in America? You can say it, because they aren't Jewish. :P The moment the bad people are Jewish, it's racist to criticize them and that's why I hate the situation I am in. That's proof of how much power they have. They can't be criticized as a collective. Even though it's common for people to say "The Russians did this thing" when Putin does something. You can't say "The Jews did this thing" even though literally all the people I am referencing ARE Jewish.

Edited July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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"Was there a lie somewhere in the title?"

ugh, fuck off with this incel shit

Posted July 30th by poptart!

ugh, fuck off with this incel shit

Not an answer. Was there a lie or not?

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

gfys, IKM. plenty of people, myself included, criticize the rothschilds and the zuckerfucks without being racist degenerates about it

"Even though it's common for people to say "The Russians did this thing" when Putin does something. You can't say "The Jews did this thing" even though literally all the people I am referencing ARE Jewish"

this is fucking retarded. you're literally a retarded person

Posted July 30th by poptart!

"Not an answer. Was there a lie or not?"

yes you fucking incel now fuck off

Posted July 30th by poptart!

If I say Jewish power in Israel is unchallenged is that still racist to you?

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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no

Posted July 30th by poptart!

So what's the lie in the title poptart?

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

Okay well that's a good place to start. Sorry we had to run around a bit to get there.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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the lie is the "white replacement" part. and another lie is that "jewish owned" matters lolyou fuckkng incel

Posted July 30th by poptart!

I am guilty of overgeneralizing. But I am not blind to what's going on either. I don't see how that makes me a level -5 racist. And aside from stopping my overgeneralizations, which I intend to, going forward - I am not sure what to do.

" The Jews run the world" may be a false statement.

"A number of Jews run the world" is not false.

"A disproportionate number of Jews are in power" is not false.

So your issue with me is that I include innocent bystanders in my overgeneralizations. But my problem is that the bad people in question are still all Jewish and it's difficult to ignore that. They know something I don't.

Whites have power because of grandfathered reasons and we outnumber minorities. But Jews have power because they sneak their way into it and they control money. And they're by far the most successful minority at getting into power.

Edited July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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you absolute fuck.

"But my problem is that the bad people in question are still all Jewish and it's difficult to ignore that."

why
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fucking
matter

and "all?!" really? ALL?!

"But Jews have power because they sneak their way into it and they control money."

you're going to have to give me some hard fucking stats to back this racist shit up, you nazi fuck

Edited July 30th by poptart!

I sure hope SOH's friend gets curious and checks out Gtx0's newest replies now.

Edited July 30th by Agis
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poptart! has been banned for one week due to multiple violations of rule 2a.

Posted July 30th by Cruinn-Annuin

poptart! has been banned for one week due to multiple violations of rule 2a.


Great that'll totally solve the main problem here.

Posted July 30th by KnokkelMillennium

I wonder if the newgrounds forums are active.

Posted July 30th by S.o.h.
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Also can this thread be locked. One quick look at newest replies further reinforces my point. God help this site if any newbies were lurking while this shit show came to fruition.

Posted July 30th by .o.h.
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Also can this thread be locked


Or it can be used to further acknowledge that not everything that can be done about the issue is being done, and someone who is standing in opposition to it is being banned. Regardless of it was justified, that says something.

Edited July 30th by KnokkelMillennium

Anyway I don't care anymore poppy.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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Or it can be used to further acknowledge that not everything that can be done about the issue is being done


The Content Team has arrived at a decision regarding the fate of the World forum and we are waiting on Xhin to implement it.

Posted July 30th by Cruinn-Annuin

pop-tart! has been banned for one week due to multiple violations of rule 2a.

And problem solved! Now soh can show his friend the website

Edited July 30th by Brandy

May I ask why did my last thread get removed?

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

May I ask why did my last thread get removed?


Exactly the reason that the tag itself says. It is a damage control tag in order to put the situation on pause while some formal things are taken care of. After the change is made, you may resume your business. Hang tight for a little bit.

Posted July 30th by Cruinn-Annuin

Might as well tag this one too then Null, or at least my racist posts. At least one member thinks I'm half as evil as Himmler.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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Tag the drag queen story hour one to that’s offensive to the lgbtq community, and the definition of socialism one. Most people don’t want to heat about hitler

Edited July 30th by Brandy

No, no more of this "might as well do this and this and this". Just stop.

Posted July 30th by Cruinn-Annuin

We should have the option to delete our own messages.

Posted July 30th by I killed Mufasa
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Exactly the reason that the tag itself says. It is a damage control tag in order to put the situation on pause while some formal things are taken care of. After the change is made, you may resume your business. Hang tight for a little bit.

Ok, thanks for clarification.

Posted July 30th by #85
#85

The Content Team has arrived at a decision regarding the fate of the World forum and we are waiting on Xhin to implement it.


Hopefully it'll actually be good enough. I have my doubts though.

Posted July 30th by KnokkelMillennium

Honestly I don't think poptart should be banned here, a better idea is to lock this post, which I've done.

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