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Okay so I was out with a group of people and we were eating ^"Mexican Chili" chips and I said "They're made of Mexicans" and now I'm worried I may have offended the dude who looked Mexican, who was probably from el salvador or something cuz i asked him if he was mexican and he said "no"

On a scale of 1 to 10 how offended would you be if you were Mexican? How racist was this comment?

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the mexican chilli comment is kinda funny but not maliciously racist

asking the dude if he was mexican is kinda awkward and maybe a little racist but not in a “oh fuck that guy forever” way

3/10

Posted November 4th by poptart!

I know what you mean. After making the comment I looked up and he was looking me in the eyes. I broke contact then looked up again and he was still looking me in the eyes. So I thought maybe there was a bit of tension. We're cool though

Posted November 4th by Kaot0

Would it be equally racist to ask a white guy if he's got English heritage? What if you're white too and you ask? Still racist? What's wrong with asking people about themselves? I think if he takes offense to the potential of being perceived as Mexican it says more about him than you.

Edited November 4th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

I love Mexicans I love their spirit

Edited November 4th by Brandy


asking the dude if he was mexican is kinda awkward and maybe a little racist but not in a “oh fuck that guy forever” way


Mexican here. That is not in any way shape or form racist. On Friday a counselor I was working with asked me if I was Mexican. I said yes and responded if she was. She said yes. Had a great talk about dia de los muertos.

it is better to ask and clarify what their back ground is than to assume. People of other Latin American countries will give you hell if you don't clarify with them their nationality.

Posted November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I watched a comedian yesterday talk about how offensive it is to ask people their ethnic background. I thought that part was kinda dumb. He objected to the question of "where are you from". Which I kinda get but like still. I wouldn't give a fuck if someone asked me. It means they take an interest in your culture or heritage. I think it would be more insulting for someone to never ask you and just act like they don't care.

I give it a 2/10.

Posted November 4th by Fox Forever

It depends on how that person took your comment. If it lead to an amicable discussion, then no racism would be implied. However, you did blatantly assume someone's nationality, and the other person can make a thousand assumptions based off of a comment like that. That's not racism, though, that's insensitive and stupid in a time of great intercultural grievance.

Posted November 4th by mariomguy

asking it like “are you mexican” vs “where are you from” makes it a little racist in a king of the hill “so are ya chinese or japanese” sort of way

Posted November 4th by poptart!

not really.

sincerely a Mexican.

Posted November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

He objected to the question of "where are you from".


When you're asking questions about people's race/country of origin, I think it's important to examine your intentions. I was able to attend a panel called "What are you, anyway?" led by a group of mixed-race speakers, and what all the panelists concurred in front of the audience is that, as soon as someone asks such questions about race/places of origin, they immediately wonder, "Why do you want to know? Are you genuinely interested in who I am as a person? Or, are you going to use my answer to inform your prejudices?" One of the ways they are able to "tell" what the answer is, they said, is how entitled the questioner is to an answer. If the questioner "needs" this information in order to figure out how to interact with the person, they are probably acting out of the latter intention.

sincerely a Mexican.

Oedipal levels of hubris right here. Attention everyone, SOH has the authority to speak for an entire race.
Frankly, the belief that one person or example can be representative of an entire race is the root of racism.

Posted November 4th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

While I don't have the authority to speak for an entire nationality. (Mexican isn't a race. To believe it is an insult our indenginous ancestors)

Nothing of which was asked is racist. You people are trying to find racism where it isn't.

Secondly if the only Mexican on this site who gets this question about once a week tells you its not racist and a complete non issue than maybe you should take it into consideration.

While I'm sure there are some that will take issue with it. (As they do with everything else) I can say from my experience that it won't be an issue the majority of the population.


But hey what do I know. I am sure that the people in this thread who have no connection with the Mexican people can correct me and tell me how we should feel when some one asks about our background.

Edited November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

(Mexican isn't a race. To believe it is an insult our indenginous ancestors)

I’m very sorry for the mislabel. Crap. Won’t happen again.

Nothing of which was asked is racist.

No, I agree. I just thought this thread was inviting a broader discussion.

Posted November 4th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

I’m very sorry for the mislabel. Crap. Won’t happen again


lol it is fine. I laughed when I saw it.


No, I agree. I just thought this thread was inviting a broader discussion.


ultimately it depends on the individual. I see nothing wrong with the question. It is a good question. People forget that several central American countries made up the Mexican empire. These nations all share a similar culture, people and language. It is better to ask and get an answer than for the individual to assume what nationality that person is.


I once made this mistake. I assumed one of my college friends was mexican. Ended up asking her what part of Mexico she was from. She was offended as she is Guatemalan and thought that I knew. Its a matter of pride for some people.

Now we look back and home about the experience as Guatemala was a part of the Mexican empire at some point in time. So my question and my belief that she was Mexican was acceptable to a degree. But lord knows I would not mention it if she didn't want me to or joke about it. Granted I wouldnt joke about it with other guatemalan. But my friend jokes about it too and we are both probably going to hell..

Edited November 4th by S.omh
S.omh
 

Replying to the edit in your previous reply:
You’re right; I’m sorry. I hope we’re good. Thanks for your patience with me.

I laughed when I saw it.

Yeah that was dumb of me. Kicking myself, lol.

About your anecdote, though, I think that’s what poptart was saying: it can be considered racist/offensive to jump right to an assumed nationality (when you phrase your question or otherwise).

Sorry if this is kind of a non-reply; hard to function on mobile.

Edited November 4th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

My point is that there is a difference between.

"Are you Mexican?"

And

"What part of Mexico are you from"

The former being an acceptable question as it allows the individual to clarify if they are not .

The latter, straight up suggests they are Mexican and nothing else. And from my experience can damage some ones pride. Additionally it suggests that out side of "Mexican" there are no other nationalities.

I am willing to admit that it has taken me a long time to stop assuming people who spoke my Language and shared my culture were Mexican. The area where I live is predominately Mexican. The schools I over see have Latino populations composed of Salvadorians, Nicaraguans, Panamanian s, and Guatemalans.


The question of

"Are you (insert aforementioned nationality here)" has come up multiple times between me and students. (Them asking me what my background was) it is an innocent question. If a Mexican student feels far more comfortable knowing that I am of Mexican descent who understands and experienced the same struggles they are facing than so be it.

Posted November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Thanks for expanding on your point. I do appreciate it. Obviously, my own perspective is like extremely limited. Can I ask about the circumstances where you would find questions about your background offensive?

Posted November 4th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

Good question. I would say when I am having a discussion about politics or a certain political issue. My parents country of origin should not play into the discussion period.

My views on abortion, immigration,, healthcare, education etc should be judged not by the color of my skin or my parents country of origin but by the evidence I use to defend my views.

It really angers me when people say "oh you only feel that way because you are Mexican" no Greg I only feel that way because it is what's best for my city/county/ state/ country.


don't mean to offend any one named Greg here. First name that came to mind.

I also think there is a thin line as too when it's appropriate to mention at work.

Oh there is an initiative to promote higher education to statistically underrepresented communities which are largely minority male students? Due to representation representation purposes I am the best person to send out as I myself am a part of that community and work for higher education. And have close to 7 years experience to boot. (Granted this might be a slippery slope. But that's the issue with representation initiatives. )


On the flip side a comment such as "you are well articulated for a Mexican" would not be acceptable

Edited November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I have to admit, I wouldn't ask a black guy if his people were from Nigeria because chances are if he's African American he doesn't know which country his people come from. But I might ask him if he's from Atlanta if there were other clues that he was. If he had an obvious Jamaican accent though I might talk about that. I had a friend from Jamaica before. Great food.

Edited November 4th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king

Not as a racist as #85 is tbh!

Posted November 4th by Weid man

It really angers me when people say "oh you only feel that way because you are Mexican"

Yeah, damn, that would annoy the hell out of me. Do you get this often?

Oh there is an initiative to promote higher education to statistically underrepresented communities which are largely minority male students? Due to representation representation purposes I am the best person to send out as I myself am a part of that community and work for higher education. And have close to 7 years experience to boot. (Granted this might be a slippery slope. But that's the issue with representation initiatives. )

Sorry, I got a little confused by your wording here. Can you maybe clarify your bottom line? (There's a good chance my reading comprehension is just shot because I never read anymore).

Posted November 4th by Cetasaurus
Cetasaurus
Formerly KM8

Secondly if the only Mexican on this site who gets this question about once a week tells you its not racist and a complete non issue than maybe you should take it into consideration.


i agree that it’s a nonissue but it’s definitely a race thing because i never get this quesion and i was born in this country just like you, the difference being that my skin is white so no one cares to find out where “i’m” “from”

Edited November 4th by poptart!

The problem with asking "where are you from" is that it could subtly imply that I think the person originates from outside Canada and he could respond like "bruh, I'm from Canada same as you. Do you think I came from somewhere else because I'm not white?" Which would be worse. I should have asked if he was Hispanic because he was. It would have been a slam-dunk.

Posted November 4th by Kaot0

I think it's fine to ask where he/his family is from. He might say Toronto but at least you got an answer.

Posted November 4th by I killed Mufasa
I killed Mufasa
long live the king


i agree that it’s a nonissue but it’s definitely a race thing because i never get this quesion and i was born in this country just like you, the difference being that my skin is white so no one cares to find out where “i’m” “from

where you from?



Posted November 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

colorado

Posted November 4th by poptart!

But you look so ohioan.

Posted November 4th by Xhin
Xhin
Fractal icious

A lot of people think my mom is Mexican. She's Greek, and very, very white. It was cute the first hundred times, but now it's getting annoying, especially when so much people are talking about it.

Posted November 4th by mariomguy

If someone asked me where I was from I'd just clarify: "where did I grow up or what is my ethnicity"?

Assuming context wasn't clear.

Posted November 4th by Fox Forever
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