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How many have met an aunt- or uncle- -by-marriage’s sibling?
Posted: Posted May 19th, 2019 by chiarizio
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Who has met their father’s sister’s husband’s sister or their mother’s brother’s wife’s brother?
How? At what event or place? How often? Did you get to know them? Did you get to know any of their children?

I called someone’s father’s sister’s husband, that someone’s uncle. But I have no kinterm for that uncle’s sister, much less her children.
(As it happens my father had no sisters, only a brother. I met and got to know his wife my Aunt Polly, but I don’t even remember whether she had any siblings, though I do remember conversations with her mother, my Uncle Clovis’s mother-in-law.)

I called my mother’s brother’s wife Aunt Ramona. I don’t remember whether she had sisters or brothers, so I don’t remember whether the guy I met was her brother, or her brother-in-law. Either way I have no kinterm for him; I’d just call him Uncle Nick’s brother-in-law. (Wife’s brother, and wife’s sister’s husband, both get called brother-in-law.). I’m pretty sure I never met any of his children; even if I had and just forgot, I’d have had no kinterm for them.

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I think it’s common to meet a parent’s sibling’s spouse; and in USAmerican English, to call such people “aunt” or “uncle”.
But I don’t know how common it is to even meet, much less get to know, a parent’s sibling’s spouse’s sibling.
And if you don’t get to know your parent’s sibling’s spouse’s sibling, you probably won’t meet, much less get to know, any of their children.

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When I met such “relatives”(?), it was at extended-family events, which might be holidays or graduations or weddings. If the celebrations lasted more than one or two days, chances were some would be at the residences of my parent’s siblings and their spouses, with that couple controlling the guest list; so my aunt-or-uncle-by-marriage would have invited their siblings and siblings’ spouses, and possibly their children.
Except I don’t remember meeting any of the children. And among the couples I met, I can’t remember which one of them was my aunt-or-uncle-by-marriage’s sibling, and which their sibling-in-law.

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This question might be relevant to the builtworld I’m currently working on.



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At that point it's more simple to just call them by name tbh. Hell I call my own aunt Natalie rather than Aunt Nat.

Posted May 19th, 2019 by I killed Mufasa
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I agree that if you had a kinterm for them it might be simpler to just use their personal name as a term-of-address.
Thing is I don’t have a kinterm for them at all, not even one to abandon in favor of their personal name as soon as we’re closely enough acquainted for that.
How would you introduce them to somebody who doesn’t know them?

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Anyway; have you met any of them?

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I have three con-societies in my newest conworld in which people always marry someone who is classified as their mother’s brother’s wife’s brother’s child or their father’s sister’s husband’s sister’s child.
These relationships could well be classificatory, rather than what speakers of European languages would consider “properly so-called”, so one’s marital opportunities are not quite So hostage to various biological accidents.
And in my builtworld a young couple don’t necessarily have to meet each other’s aunts and uncles before they start courting.

But I still wondered how realistic or unrealistic it would be to suggest that someone might even know who their parents’ siblings’ spouses’ siblings are.


Posted May 19th, 2019 by chiarizio
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At family reunions I am sure I have. I think on first meeting I'd treat them like any other stranger.

Edited May 19th, 2019 by I killed Mufasa
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Neither my father’s family nor my mother’s family did reunions much.
My second wife’s mother’s family sure did, though.
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I’m sure when I met “that guy” I was told his name, and met his wife at the same time, and was told whether he was Aunt Ramona’s brother and his wife was her sister -in-law, or instead he was Ramona’s brother-in-law and his wife was her sister.
I was the only one of my parents’ children who lived in the town my grand mother and all my uncles and aunts and cousins on my mother’s side lived at that time. So I don’t think I ever needed to introduce him and my brother to each other.
But if I had, I think I’d have said something like :
“David, this is X, Aunt Ramona’s brother”
or
“David, this is X, Ramona’s brother-in-law”.


Posted May 19th, 2019 by chiarizio
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mother’s brother’s wife’s brother

all the time

one of my aunts has basically treated my brother and I like her kids since we were little (she has none) - we tend to see her at least once a week. She's still very close to her brother and sees him all the time, and sometimes our meetings intersect (holidays, birthdays, going to lunch together for no real reason, etc). He's a nice guy (often available for favors like "hey I need a ride please") with a good sense of humor and I enjoy seeing him.

we call him by his name, or refer to him as my aunt's brother

Posted May 19th, 2019 by Pirate_Ninja
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@Pirate_Ninja:
So your mother’s brother and his wife had no children together?
Did your aunt’s brother have any kids? And if so did you get to know any of them?


Posted May 19th, 2019 by chiarizio
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I've actually met my Uncle Joe's siblings, and more than that, I've met a few of their siblings. To explain, my Uncle Joe is my mother's sister's husband, and I've met all of his brothers and sisters; of these latter, I've met the brother and sister-in-law of one of my uncle's brothers. My uncle's brother's brother-in-law happens to be Wisconsin Secretary of Revenue Peter Barca, and I've had his wife as a college professor.

Posted May 19th, 2019 by Black Yoshi
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So your mother’s brother and his wife had no children together?

nope, so they spent a lot of time and energy on us instead, inviting us over and buying lots of Christmas gifts and stuff like that


Did your aunt’s brother have any kids? And if so did you get to know any of them?

he got married later in life and I don't think they're interested in having kids of their own - like his sister, they're just The Fun Relatives to their nieces and nephews and such

Posted May 19th, 2019 by Pirate_Ninja
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@Pirate_Ninja:
So your mother’s brother and his wife had no children together?
Did your aunt’s brother have any kids? And if so did you get to know any of them?


Posted March 19th by chiarizio
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.....
One evening I was sitting with her and two other young adults of “career” age.
She introduced one of them to me as her half-brother’s step-brother.
(To which I responded “so there’s no blood between you at all!” —— or words to that effect.)
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Do any of us have half-siblings’ half-siblings who aren’t our own step-siblings?
What would you call them?

Do any of us have half-siblings’ step-siblings, or step-siblings’ half-siblings?
Do you ever call them by some kinterm, or “kintermesque” term? Or only by their names or accepted nicknames?

Are there any further questions sorta similar to these, that I could ask?


Posted March 19th by chiarizio
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