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Game of Thrones S8 E1 Discussion (spoilers)
Posted: Posted April 15th, 2019
Edited April 15th, 2019 by Vandy
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Thought it would be interesting to see what you guys think about the show.

With only 6 episodes to work with I thought it started out pretty slow. It doesn't seem like much happened. The plot with Theon, Euron and Yara is the least interesting for me (which sucks because Theon chapters in the book are some of my favorites) and so to see it take up what felt like 1/3 of the episode was disappointing. I also understand that the north is wary of trusting a foreign Targaryen queen that they have never seen before, but also you have an undead army of 100,000 coming for you just a few days away soooo ... maybe just accept the army + dragons for help for the time being? If you trusted Jon a few months ago to elect him as your king then shouldn't you trust his decision to do what it takes to get the help you need to survive?

I'm of the group that prefers the books at this point but I always try to view the show from a point of optimism. To me it's an alternate universe. And though it has its faults, I think they do a lot of things really well. Great casting, great costume design, great sets. However it's hard not to notice the drop in writing quality since Season 4 and beyond. It seems to be more about the spectacle of dragons and big battles now rather than interesting characters. And they do those things really well. I will just keep waiting for the rest of the books for the finer details that the show is now lacking.

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I'd say the big issue the Northerners have is that Jon is declaring fealty for a Targaryan (their enemy during Robert's Rebellion, a family deemed mad), who heads an army of foreigners with a Lannister in a position of power. And considering the recent fracture of the north under the Boltons, I think it's fair game for them to be suspicious of Dany, and angry at Jon for surrendering his crown without council after leaving them for god knows how long.

Also, after the whole "teleporting across Westeros and back in one episode" pace of Season 7, I guess I appreciated that this episode, at least, felt like it was actually taking its time with its characters. Decent start so far.



Posted April 15th, 2019 by Orion Nebula
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Also, yeah, the Greyjoy story literally just feels like treading water. There's nothing substantial or interesting about it, especially after they regressed Theon's arc further last season by having him jump overboard.

Posted April 15th, 2019 by Orion Nebula
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It did seem like a little bit of a slow start, but I assume it's just getting the character moments out of the way so we can get to the fighting.





Posted April 15th, 2019 by Count Dooku
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I like the show a lot and I'm extremely excited for the remaining episodes, but it really is a shame that GRRM couldn't just fucking finish his books before the show got to this point. The first few seasons were excellent, absolutely top notch, and as soon as source material ran out the quality dropped like a rock.

Posted April 15th, 2019 by The Bandit
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I actually rather liked the slower start to the season, mainly because I was worried that the show wouldn't have time to give any of these long-awaited reunions time to breathe. And yeah, they probably really didn't have time, but I'm glad they at least tried to give us some of those solid character moments that have helped to set this show apart from the start. That said, I have no idea how they're supposed to wrap up the Night King storyline, the Cersei storyline, and the eventual ruler of Westeros storyline while also giving at least our major characters (Jon, Daenerys, the Lannisters, and the remaining Starks at an absolute minimum) satisfying conclusions to their arcs. I think that part of the show's decline in quality, in addition to running out of source material, is that they set this hard limit and realized they had to start culling their storylines. A lot of the exits/deaths in the past couple of seasons have felt much more like the showrunners clearing the table of storylines they realized they didn't have time to deal with rather than happening organically, and they still have so many more left over. I'm definitely of the opinion that the show got quite a bit worse after Season 4 (though it's still managed to churn out some top-tier episodes like "Hardhome" and "The Winds of Winter"), and I'm not really seeing how they're going to wrap this up in a satisfactory manner. Hopefully they can prove me wrong, though!



Edited April 16th, 2019 by white lancer
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Lancer:



Posted April 16th, 2019 by Count Dooku
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So yeah, I agree with you guys, episode 1 was way way too slow for a 6-episode conclusion. Though the armies are apparently all in one place now (including jaime's), so maybe we'll start to see actual stuff happening next episode.

A few things I liked:



A lot of things I didn't like:



Edited April 16th, 2019 by Xhin
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I think that part of the show's decline in quality, in addition to running out of source material, is that they set this hard limit and realized they had to start culling their storylines.


100%. I understand wanting to end your story so it doesn't turn out like the Meereenese knot, but after a point it really felt like D&D just wanted to be done with the show so they could focus on their next project. They started bending the rules of the world just so they could map out their endgame more easily; and by extension, much more conventionally.

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Posted April 16th, 2019 by Orion Nebula
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I missed last episode

Posted April 16th, 2019 by Henry paul
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Though the armies are apparently all in one place now (including jaime's)


I thought he came alone after turning on Cersei.

Posted April 16th, 2019 by Moonray
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