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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller


every time i see a video of a cop kicking a handcuffed man in the head, or see screencaps of U.S. military members laughing at the kent state massacre, i get so angry. love hearing about pigs gettimg shot on the news tho

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Ya I've been noticing a lot of particularly brutal incidents involving the police lately. I'm not going to pretend they're all like this but the sooner the shithead ones are dealt with the better for literally everyone. I've heard less about the military though.

Posted May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

I love hearing about pigs getting shot on the news tho

holy fuck the degeneracy



Posted May 6th by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

Being glad to hear about folks getting shot? A little tasteless, perhaps. A nation of freedom lovers consistently licking cop boot? THAT'S fucking degenerate.

Posted May 6th by Pink Peruvian Flying Bear
Pink Peruvian Flying Bear

Edgy post

Posted May 6th by #85
#85

@poptart I have edited your thread.


Rule 3a: Note that obscenity is not allowed in post titles

Posted May 6th by chiefsonny
chiefsonny
 

Having rejected conventional morality, the far left can find no alternative but to derive one from a mostly imagined narrative of power disparity. Cops, the United States, Israel, men, and white people are immoral by virtue of being what they are, whereas perceived victims, either where none exist or where the situation cannot be explained away as a simple dichotomy, are always given moral authority. David Hogg is given absolute moral authority because he is a "kid" (with the right opinions) despite the fact that he offers nothing but character attacks and caveman demagoguery. Black Lives Matter can march down the street chanting "Fry 'em like bacon!" and we still have people trying to insist that they are having an important conversation.

This is intellectual degeneracy. Cops should be held responsible for everything they do, and to a higher standard than the general population by virtue of the authority granted to them. No one disputes this. The real problem is that anti-police sentiment usually boils down what we are witnessing here. It is, in a word, bigotry, and it taints the entire argument. You don't want responsible cops. You want emotional validation, at it should be to your own horror that you find it at the expense of the well being of police officers.

Edited May 6th by Famov
Famov

lol sorry guys, drunk post. i don't actually think that cops should be shot

Posted May 6th by poptart!
poptart!
 

“f*** the military”

Fuck you and your wanna be hard ass. Go up to any military person and say that shit to thier face... if you have balls.

Posted May 6th by Q
Q
 

Brocken jr was in the navy. Are you saying that he should fuck homdelf, poptart?

Edited May 6th by Weid military
Weid military
 

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN : the thread

Posted May 6th by #85
#85

Nice everyone is mad!

Oh and Famov is ranting about some dumb shit probably irrelevant to what anyone here actually thinks over there. But he's also probably mad. Famov all I did was acknowledge that police brutality is a big problem, which it is. Even #85 admitted that once. Didn't say shit about "all cops" or some shit about the victim being given absolute "moral authority" or any of that. Many times there really is no excuse for their actions.

And if you are seeing particularly nasty reactions to police, it is only because of the particularly nasty actions of police. An eye for an eye so to speak. I'm not saying that's right but it's hard to say it's much worse than what police are already doing.

Edited May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Fuck you and your wanna be hard ass. Go up to any military person and say that shit to thier face... if you have balls.


additionally

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

/end meme

For the record I am by no means a "worship the ground you walk on for serving in the service" type of person. But you should really refrain from being a dickwad.

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN : the thread


THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL


Its one thing to want police reform, and accountability. Its another thing to derive happiness from an officer being shot.

The law enforcement profession has been skewed by a few bad officers and a few corrupt departments, administrators.

Im all for purging these individuals and for various law reforms. (which are desperately needed) But you have to be a complete degenerate to think all cops are bad and corrupt. (I do think a lot of the cases involving officer involved shootings need to be reopened and reexamined. theres been a lot of shady shit thats been swept under the rug)




Edited May 6th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

The law enforcement profession has been skewed by a few bad officers and a few corrupt departments, administrators.


See I don't know if it can even be called a few anymore from how much I've been seeing it happen. Maybe I've only been recently noticing this because of the places I've been hanging around but it's been happening a bit much to just call it a few. It seems like a fairly big problem and these officers that often GET AWAY WITH IT need to be dealt with.

But you have to be a complete degenerate


I'm glad we all decided to start talking like /pol/ . Why not just find a different word because I don't think degenerate works very well in a technical sense, and it never works very well in a buzzword sense.

Edited May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

The problem is probably the nature of being a cop and the power that comes with it tends to attract shitheads who want to lord over people and get away with all the shitty things they can do. Like seriously quite a bit of the stuff they get away with is really fucked up and sometimes goes beyond even murder.

Like this
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/georgia-police-dog-head/
Or that recently time they shot someone's dog and then arrested someone for filming it. Why is absolutely nothing being done about these types though?

Edited May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

But he's also probably mad.

No anger today, or most days. But my comments were in reference mostly to the premise of this thread and the sentiment being represented.

Sometimes alcohol inspires people to reveal their darkest emotions... and sometimes it inspires them to reveal gross exaggerations of their darkest emotions. On a personal level I am always willing to accept the second answer if that's what the formerly intoxicated person insists is true. With that said, what pop said while under the influence is what many have admitted while entirely sober, and it is worth reminding people that this caricature is what much of the debate over police comes down to.

Posted May 6th by Famov
Famov

See I don't know if it can even be called a few anymore from how much I've been seeing it happen. Maybe I've only been recently noticing this because of the places I've been hanging around but it's been happening a bit much to just call it a few. It seems like a fairly big problem and these officers that often GET AWAY WITH IT need to be dealt with.


I believe it is a few. Unfortunately the media makes it seem worse than it really is.

Case in point a lot of people tell me the world is going to shit. But statistically this is one of the most peace ful times in human history.

By all means find me a list of words. But until then I will keep using the word degenerate. (I just want to be noticed by senpai 85)

The problem is probably the nature of being a cop and the power that comes with it tends to attract shitheads who want to lord over people and get away with all the shitty things they can do. Like seriously quite a bit of the stuff they get away with is really fucked up and sometimes goes beyond even murder.


I know. Ive long advocated for tougher hiring standards to weed out those who are looking for a power trip.

Unfortunately these standards vary not just by state but at the county level as well.

Or that recently time they shot someone's dog and then arrested someone for filming it. Why is absolutely nothing being done about these types though?


Like I said an overhaul of the criminal justice system is long needed.

Gotta vote in the right people for that to happen though.

Posted May 6th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

I believe it is a few. Unfortunately the media makes it seem worse than it really is.


I don't think so given it seems like it's at least every other day I hear about it now.

Case in point a lot of people tell me the world is going to shit. But statistically this is one of the most peace ful times in human history.


Technically peaceful doesn't really mean things are good though by itself.

Posted May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Technically peaceful doesn't really mean things are good though by itself.


compared to any other point of human history things are fantastic. especially if you live in a 1st world country.

I don't think so given it seems like it's at least every other day I hear about it now.


Than I need to start following your news sources. Like I said I really dont think its as bad as the media makes it seem to be.



Posted May 6th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

Why was my comment tagged? It includes the song “FUCK THE POLICE” by rage against the machine.

Poptart you fucking TOOL, You Tom morello/Zach de la racha. Republicans shall be hung, tried, and shot!

Now you do what they told ya!




Posted May 6th by Weid machine
Weid machine
 

It's mostly the places I hang around that post the news sources. If anything I think a lot of mainstream media doesn't talk about it when it happens enough. But you know how it goes.

compared to any other point of human history things are fantastic. especially if you live in a 1st world country.


Eh. It's subjective.

Edited May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

I disagree but to each his own :^)

Posted May 6th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

"Sometimes alcohol inspires people to reveal their darkest emotions... and sometimes it inspires them to reveal gross exaggerations of their darkest emotions"

anger, too. i had just seen the video of the handcuffed guy getting kicked in the head.

"Fuck you and your wanna be hard ass. Go up to any military person and say that shit to thier face... if you have balls"

not sure if you're a baby killer or a bootlicker, but this is why i don't like you people

Edited May 6th by poptart!
poptart!
 

Because they will deck you ? Lol

Posted May 6th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

because i think the tough guy attitude is obnoxious

Posted May 6th by poptart!
poptart!
 

Seems like the appropriate reaction when someone is being a jackass.

Posted May 6th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Can someone please dance to rage against the mschune’s song csllef “FUCK THE POLICE”?

Posted May 6th by weid military
weid military
 

Ain't it great that we're all nice to each other and get along and don't insult each other and never get mad at each other?

Posted May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Damn straight we do, now you do what they told ya (now you’re under conTROLL).

Posted May 6th by Weid man
Weid man
 

now you do what they told ya


I'm more of a FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME kind of guy

Posted May 6th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

Do you guys like the song killing in the name of?

Posted May 7th by Weid man
Weid man
 

I do. My favorite RATM song is Down Rodeo, though.

Posted May 7th by nullfather
nullfather

and they dont want to even protect people. the police waited 6 hours to go to the hotel room in vegas

Edited May 10th by Brandy
Brandy

the police waited 6 hours to go to the hotel room in vegas


Wrong. Paddock started shooting at 10:05. The police breached his room at 11:20.

Posted May 10th by nullfather
nullfather

Oi! Poptart! When your house gets invaded and you and your family are held at gunpoint, what are you gonna do, call a crackhead?

Posted May 15th by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

Say “don’t taze me bro”.

Posted May 15th by Weid man
Weid man
 

Oi! Poptart! When your house gets invaded and you and your family are held at gunpoint, what are you gonna do, call a crackhead?


He'd probably either be shot or not be able to call anyone in time anyway tbh.

Edited May 15th by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

shoot the home invaders myself? or die like i would anyway since the cops wouldn't be able to get there in time? real life isn't a tv show where they always show up and save the day at the most dramatic moment possible.

also, how am i going to call 911 or a crackhead if i'm being held at gunpoint, STUPID???????? lol haha XD

Posted May 15th by poptart!
poptart!
 

or die like i would anyway since the cops wouldn't be able to get there in time?

this is what would happen most likely. the cops want people to die. it makes thier job easier less calls to respond too.

Posted Saturday by Brandy
Brandy

... what

Posted Saturday by poptart!
poptart!
 

Gads, trolls and their sophistry, changing the subject. Say you managed to GET the chance to call somebody. Cops or crackhead? Your life is on the line, and you'd actually swipe left on the cops in your desperate calculus because of an assumption about response times? Seriously?!? How fast does an average crackhead respond to a home invasion? Where are the published statistics you're arguing from?

Posted Monday by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

I don't know why you think this is just trolling. I mean maybe it wasn't worded the best way possible, but I mean it's true. The very slim chance that you'd ever have the chance to call the police in those situations also assumes that the cops would even get there in time. Usually, the good thing about cops remains that they eventually find and arrest the murder, robber or whatever else.

You really are better off just having a gun or something to defend yourself with, and that is coming from someone who has become a bit more neutral on the issue of gun control myself. You just are better off having a weapon to defend yourself than not.

Where are the published statistics you're arguing from?


If we're going to start delving into statistics, you came in here implying that there is a decent chance that cops would be able to do anything or that people get a chance to call much in those circumstances so maybe you can show some statistics backing your implied claims?

Plus, the example you gave is really poor, like in a circumstance where you are being held at gunpoint you will NOT be able to call. It's just not going to happen. But yes, even if you're not in that specific situation it's not likely you will even get the chance to call.

Edited Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

And I'm just saying, you're completely discounting calling the cops because of an uneducated guess that they're not going to respond quickly? In desperation, that's going to be the furthest thing from your mind. You're just going to want your life to be saved. Depend instead upon the response time and tactical training of a crackhead, and you're either insane, soon dead, or both.

Also, you're assuming that you can run down the hall, open the cubbyhole to your gun safe, input the code correctly the first time, grab it, load it, and rack it, ALL before they intercept you. Are you THAT confident in YOUR response time? Confidently saying yes is really naive.

Edited Monday by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

And I'm just saying, you're completely discounting calling the cops because of an uneducated guess that they're not going to respond quickly?


No, I'm saying in most cases it wouldn't save you which it wouldn't.

In desperation, that's going to be the furthest thing from your mind. You're just going to want your life to be saved.


Exactly, that is what having a means to self-defense is for.

Depend instead upon the response time and tactical training of a crackhead, and you're either insane, soon dead, or both.


I don't know where you're getting that bit as if I said I ever wanted to call a crackhead instead but.

Also, you're assuming that you can run down the hall, open the cubbyhole to your gun safe


The chance of having a gun be useful is higher than police being useful aside from what I already mentioned before which is finding and arresting the criminal afterwards. Also I don't even own a gun personally but who the fuck would bother putting their gun in a safe?

Are you THAT confident in YOUR response time? Confidently saying yes is really naive.


I think it's really naive to think that you somehow can't get a gun that can be in arm's reach before the police would arrive if you can even get the chance to call them. They don't have magic teleportation.

Edited Monday by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

I don't know where you're getting that bit as if I said I ever wanted to call a crackhead instead but.

My overall question is, if you refuse to call the police in your desperation, what and/or whom is your alternative? If it is a person, what gives you such confidence their response time is better than the police's?

Exactly, that is what having a means to self-defense is for.

And you're 100% confident all variables are accounted for, and you will survive? Again, you naively underestimate how you will act in an actual invasion. You cannot entirely depend upon yourself. Call the police. This is their life and livelihood. Your bias is unwarranted and has been handed to you by other unwarrantedly biased people.

The chance of having a gun be useful is higher than police being useful

Oh, is that what this is? An odds game? Heard of the gambler's fallacy? Never rely on luck. Also, you can't just leave a gun lying around. You WILL have children visiting you at some point, and you WILL want to prevent tragic accidents. Also, criminals who have done their homework on you will use your weapons against you if they're not locked up. Never underestimate the ingenuity of criminals.

Posted Very Early Yesterday by GC/MS
GC/MS
 

GC/MS no matter how I look at this, you are overthinking this and you seem to have that black and white sort of mentality about this. I'm not saying to not call the cops if you have a chance. I'm saying you won't always have a chance especially in that scenario you provided and anyone you call who is fairly far away won't get there before you could reach for a gun and that includes the police. IF you get the chance to call the cops and you're entirely sure you will be able to safely call and not be heard sure, go ahead. But the fact of the matter is they still CAN NOT get there in time regardless of this imaginary "bias" you think I and others have. When you drive to the grocery store are you going to get there within a few seconds or even minutes? No, probably not unless you happen to live really close. The same logic applies here. That is why more often a gun would have a higher chance of saving you if it comes down to it. So uh IF the option is available do both I guess. But you're actually naive if you rely on the police in entirety in a situation like that if you have other options.

Also, criminals who have done their homework on you will use your weapons against you if they're not locked up. Never underestimate the ingenuity of criminals.


Or you could just keep it closer to where you are or in your room or somewhere they likely won't get to it first. Sure it's not foolproof but what's the point of having a gun for self-defense if you can't reach it in time for anything I mean holy shit this is still much better than having it in a safe.

Edited Yesterday Morning by KnokkelMillennium
KnokkelMillennium

GC/MS no matter how I look at this, you are overthinking this and you seem to have that black and white sort of mentality about this.

The trustworthiness of police IS a black and white matter. Whether this view of yours is based upon personal bias learned from other biased people, or one police officer did something that made you unwarrantedly generalize about the trustworthiness of the entirety of the profession is the core issue here. I think your concern about response times is not based in fact, but is merely a rationalization stemming from your bias.

before you could reach for a gun

Why do you refuse to account for the fact that an invader could intercept you before you could get to your gun? Why are you so confident in your ability? It's the gambler's fallacy. You have an agenda(tactical mastery over the invader), so you pull a statistic out of the clear blue sky that enables you to rationalize that the odds will be in your favor, and you ignore the real odds that don't support your agenda.

But the fact of the matter is they still CAN NOT get there in time

What published statistic do you base this certainty upon? Where can I see it? As I said, I think you're biased against them, and this is a rationalization for not calling them that you're wrongly trying to pass off as a fact.

But you're actually naive if you rely on the police

No, you're naive to think you will survive any and every home invasion by asserting you have accounted and prepared for each and every variable. You can't just leave a gun out in the open, or in a drawer, because you will have visitors of young age, and you certainly cannot guarantee 100% that you will get to your gun before you are intercepted.

but what's the point of having a gun for self-defense

I'm not arguing against guns. I'm arguing against your self-aggrandizing certainty that you will get to it first.

Posted Last Night by GC/MS
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