Watched a few episodes. Outside Jessica Jones, which I liked for its themes and break from the traditional narrative structure, I think I just find Marvel Netflix boring slogs. Daredevil is clearly the quality superhero show for them, but I still just find it a little too heavy handed and long-winded. Really wish they weren’t always thirteen episodes.
Posted November 3rd, 2018
by Jet Presto
I had the day off when this season dropped, so I plowed through it pretty quickly. Agreed that this is the best one in a while, the first great Netflix season since The Punisher. Doesn't hurt that it had maybe the best action sequence of all the Netflix shows (relatively early on, too).
[hide]Wilson Fisk remains my all-time favorite Netflix villain, and one of my favorite Marvel villains as a whole--maybe only Loki and Killmonger surpass him. His performance in this season was superb, with special mention of his scene with Karen. Such a quiet scene, one that I expected to be over before it was, but there was so much tension in the room and on the characters' faces that I found it riveting. Deborah Ann Woll and Vincent D'Onofrio knocked it out of the park there. Also really enjoyed Bullseye, his origin story, acting, and characterization. Although you do kinda have to ignore that there's no way a man with those diagnoses would be able to get a job in the FBI, especially since he was apparently very close to snapping at any given moment. Nadeem was a character that I thought was kinda boring at first, but once the twist hit that Fisk was controlling the FBI, he became really compelling and his final scene with Dex was fantastic.
Gotta give special props to Maggie, though. Her presence, especially her tough love approach with Matt, really helped those early episodes shine for me. She got a little bit less important as the season went on, but she was the early-season MVP. I do agree that the reveal of her being Matt's mother was a little too convenient--it felt like something that was forced into the season to make it align with the comics and it really didn't seem necessary. I was aware that Matt's mother was involved in the storyline this season was based on going in, but I kinda think the Maggie-Matt dynamic would have worked better had they ignored that particular part of the comics.[/hide]
There were other gripes I had with the season, of course, because I always have gripes. None of these Netflix shows have been perfect--even JJ's first season had Robyn, and DD's first season dragged at times. I definitely agree with Jet that pretty much all of these seasons probably could have been satisfying and more tightly-plotted at 10 episodes rather than 13. My biggest complaints:
[hide]Fisk certainly got uber-powerful rather quickly, didn't he? At first it was kinda cool, but it started to feel a bit cheap and contrived for me just how crazy-powerful and crazy-prepared he was and it strained my suspension of disbelief at times. Also, just like the first season, it feels a little weird for the final solution to take down a man whose power lies in behind-the-scenes manipulation be just to beat him up. The three-way fight was cool, though.
Foggy didn't really have much to do this season. It really feels like he's the least impactful/necessary of all the sidekick characters in these shows, aside from maybe Malcolm. While Karen has been pretty central to this show from the start, and characters like Trish, Misty, Colleen, Micro, and Claire are important pieces to the shows they inhabit, I think Foggy could be removed from DD without much impact. I don't hate him as a character, but they could have killed him off in the Bulletin attack and I wouldn't have been stunned.[/hide]
Side-note, I actually thought Iron Fist's second season was a massive improvement on the first. More focus on Colleen at the expense of Danny definitely helped. Misty's appearances and chemistry with Colleen really made me hope for Daughters of the Dragon at some point (I'd be way more interested in it than Heroes for Hire, that's for sure). And man, Mary stole the show for me--such a fascinating and well-acted character. Danny himself is still kinda lame, but at least the showrunners seem to have realized that. I'm hoping that Colleen, Misty, and Mary at least manage to find their way into other Netflix shows at some point, because I would hate to be done with those characters.
Posted November 4th, 2018
by white lancer
I will check out iron fist season 2. I tried luke cage season 2 and it was bad. No chemistry between shades and the black woman (no idea about her name) I droppes it after episode 1 just didn't click with me.
Posted November 4th, 2018
I mean, I'm not going to say that IF's second season was amazing by any stretch, but I thought it was worth watching while I really didn't think the first season was. The action was also improved, which was a major problem for the first season of a show about a supposed master of martial arts, and I believe that show actually did drop the episode count to 10. I also actually did like Luke Cage's second season, so take that for what it's worth. My season ranking would be something like this now:
1. Daredevil Season 1
2. Jessica Jones Season 1
3. The Punisher Season 1
4. Daredevil Season 3
5. Jessica Jones Season 2
6. Iron Fist Season 2
7. Luke Cage Season 2
8. Luke Cage Season 1
9. Daredevil Season 2
11. Iron Fist Season 1
The top tier and the bottom two are set in stone for me, but I could rearrange the middle five in pretty much any order and not find it too far off. Luke Cage's first season would be top tier if the second half hadn't careened out of control, maybe would be above Daredevil's third season.
Posted November 5th, 2018
by white lancer
Season 3 made me fall in love with this universe again, to the point where I even went back and watched the Defenders and enjoyed it a fair bit (but man, I still can't believe how that show was 8 episodes and it was still slow and full of filler). It's a shame that it feels like all of this is wrapping up, because when these shows are on point, they're really on point, and I'd like to see them continue. DD season 1 and 3 and JJ season 1 were all incredible, and I don't think we'll get anything close to them from Disney's streaming service.
[hide]As far as Fisk gaining power quickly, it's important to remember that he's been working towards this since way back in DD season 2. "I play the long game, Mr. Castle."
I didn't really mind Maggie being Matt's mother too much. It's dumb, and I wasn't the least bit surprised that it's lifted straight from the comic because it just feels like typical comic book stupidity, but the scene where it's revealed is easily the worst acted scene of the entire season. She looked and sounded like a little kid praying before bedtime, not a nun who has had numerous personal conversations with God over the years.[/hide]
Edited November 7th, 2018
by The Bandit