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We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Saw it earlier today in a packed-to-the-rafters theatre. The kind that cheers all the big moments. And it was good! Definitely a Deathly Hallows Part 1 situation where there's more setup than anything, but it's extremely entertaining buildup that makes 2 and a half hours feel like nothing.

Couldn't be bothered trying to be vague and dodge my way around spoilers atm, so I'll just wait until more people have seen it.

Oh, and there's one credits scene, but it's all the way at the end. Worth staying for though.

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Don't think it's out until tomorrow here in the UK, I likely won't get to see it until sometime next week though.

Posted April 25th by Moonray
 

I want to see this so bad but I haven't seen black panther yet; do I need to watch that first?

Posted April 25th by Xhin
 

Not really. Just make sure you've seen both Guardians of the Galaxy movies (and obviously the other two Avengers).

Posted April 26th by Orion Nebula
Orion Nebula
 

Also captain America civil war probably since that was basically an avengers movie

Posted April 26th by Xhin
 

Is there a way to block this thread. I'm scared some one will accidentally post spoilers and ill catch it on newest replies. I wont be able to watch it till aftrr may 8th :d

Posted April 26th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I'm not qu ite there yet b ut I"m veyr close. I have SPider-Man Homecoming, Black Panther, some more Agents of SHIELD, and PUnisher to get thorugh first.


Posted April 27th by tnu
tnu

I just watched it and I'm still processing. That was a thing, for sure.

I've spent the past couple of months catching up on Marvel movies--I got out of touch there for a while. Just watched Ragnarok on Wednesday, and I caught both Guardians movies, Winter Soldier, and Black Panther in recent months. I'm still missing Ant-Man and Spiderman: Homecoming, but I didn't feel like I needed those to appreciate this one.

I'd recommend watching Ragnarok if at all possible before this one, though it's not as necessary as the other Avengers movies and Civil War. I don't even think Guardians is necessary--maybe the first one, not really the second one. Black Panther would be helpful (and it's very much recommended!), but not crucial either. But yeah, you can appreciate this movie fine without having seen most of the Marvel flicks, though it'll help obviously to know the characters.

Posted April 28th by white lancer
white lancer
 

Saw it yesterday and my reaction today is still best summed up as 'Wow'.

Posted April 28th by Count Dooku
Count Dooku

Just saw it.

Damn.

I like that they didn't scale back Thanos' part of the story or the powerlevel of the stones. Though I will be curious to see how they handle the cosmic aspects of the subsequent films, given that a lot of the abstract stuff hasn't been established in the MCU yet. However, we still have that Captain Marvel movie, so there's a good chance that there will be further implications there that will set up the final film.

Posted April 28th by nullfather
nullfather

Christ.

Posted April 29th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I have never spent my own money to see a movie in theaters twice. I want to go see IW again.

Posted April 29th by Speed Bike Pro
Speed Bike Pro
 

I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade, and I am glad that so many people loved it. I saw it in a packed theater, and it's always cool to see people get really amped about stuff.

However, for me, Infinity War reminded me exactly of why I got out of superhero comics. The constant barrage of "universe shifting events" was just so draining.

The action is really great, and I think a couple characters really shine, though, which was entertaining.




So, I dunno. It kinda stinks to me because I felt like they got me back on board with their last couple movies, but now I'm right back to feeling tired of Marvel movies. I generally always prefer solo books to big Avengers titles anyway, so this probably isn't surprising.

And then as a film:



Anyway, that's just my downer perspective and really all of them. I do find it interesting that it's the first time I really felt like you kind of did have to see a ton of Marvel films to get much out of this. It's interesting that we're at a point that the filmmakers are now expecting audiences to have seen 18 other movies first. And it's an impressive feat that Marvel Studios ultimately accomplished.

The final note I have is that I really think Tom Holland cemented his place as "best Spider-man." I hated Homecoming, but he's been excellent.

Posted April 30th by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

hated Homecoming, but he's been excellent.


the only thing I agree with. I didn't read or grow up with comic books so all of your downers fall short for me lol.

Posted April 30th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I'm not over-the-moon about the movie, but I'm also nowhere near as down on it as you are, Jet. I thought it was good, but not quite good enough to break into Marvel's top tier (which for me includes Iron Man, Avengers, Winter Soldier, Civil War, and Black Panther). I think it's solidly middle of the pack for me, but it's way ahead of the last Avengers and is still a solid film with undeniable high points.

On the ending:



I actually agree that there have been too many galaxy-level (or even world-level) threats in the MCU, and I wish there were more localized threats with fewer implacable generic evil psychopaths (Killmonger was a great step in that direction). It's no secret that one of the MCU's biggest problems has been its villains, with a few notable exceptions. That said, I wasn't super excited by Thanos prior to the movie, but I think they did enough to make him a more interesting take on Marvel's typical BBEG...and the Avengers movies are exactly the place to put these galaxy-spanning threats.



Posted April 30th by white lancer
white lancer
 

I don't think its a spoiler but didnt the ship at the end of ragnorak split in half ? Or am I misremembering?



Edited April 30th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

Yeah, you're misremembering, or I'm misunderstanding you. In case it counts as a spoiler:



Posted April 30th by white lancer
white lancer
 

Im probably remembering but




Posted April 30th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

If I had to rank them it would be


Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Infinity War, Civil War, thor 3

I would like to add that Marvel has been able to replicate the magic of the first Avengers movie not once, not twice but a total of 3 times now. (Well a total of 4 times if we count the first avengers) (Actually a total of 5 if we include GOTG 1)

Meanwhile DC couldnt hit water if they were standing on a boat.


Edited April 30th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

I actually agree that there have been too many galaxy-level (or even world-level) threats in the MCU, and I wish there were more localized threats with fewer implacable generic evil psychopaths


the phase 3 villains have all been pretty good imo.



Posted April 30th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

yeah, phase 3 villains have been great. i thought thanos was especially good.

my rankings now would be:
thor 3, black panther, civil war, infinity war, homecoming, winter soldier

(not to say that homecoming and winter soldier don't also rock)

infinity war might move up for me after i see the next avengers. it depends on what happens.



i know that these movies aren't necessarily "great" but they're like candy to me.

i'll probably come back later and post some more thoughts/expand on this. i'm a little high rn and don't feel like it

Edited April 30th by poptart!
poptart!
 

I want to touch on one of the criticisms pointed out by all three of you



Posted May 1st by s.o.h.
s.o.h.
 

Just watched it but about to go to bed... Just wanted to say this one thing in response to criticism about the ending:

We always know the heroes are going to win in the end, that isn't the point. The point is seeing how they accomplish it.

Anyway I'll post more detailed spoiler tag stuff tomorrow.

Edited May 1st by Moonray
 

the phase 3 villains have all been pretty good imo.

Yeah, I suppose that's true, actually. I was thinking of Hela, who was very generic (though awesomely played by Cate Blanchett), but basically all of the best non-Loki villains have come from Phase 3.

On the ending:



On Asgard:



On Strange:



Posted May 1st by white lancer
white lancer
 

All fair points, even if I disagree. I don't want to do to others that liked Infinity War what people did to me for liking The Last Jedi. I'm glad people liked it and thought it was cool. And there definitely are elements I appreciated.

I want to just touch relatively briefly upon on thing that keeps coming up: the comparison to Empire Strikes Back.




I dunno. I think the whole thing about it being more about the "How" doesn't appeal to me because none of it was all that compelling to me. Given how especially contrived a story like this is going to need to get to "fix it," (a common issue with comic events), I have a really hard time seeing how the "how" will be at all genuinely interesting or compelling. The one piece of thematic substance of the film (Thanos's measurements of life versus the Avengers' refusal to trade lives) only barely gets examined. Because they're trying to fit in so many characters and give everyone a moment to shine within the action, there's very little substance to the story. Like, there was actually a lot more to the story in Age of Ultron than Infinity War, despite the latter having a superior, better acted villain.

But yeah, it's basically eye candy. And there are a million and a half ways this could have ended up a total mess. I didn't really care for it overall, but it was definitely not a mess. I mean, Justice League had what, six characters? And that was a total disaster. My problems with Infinity War are largely not because the film feels confused (although I still think the number of jokes feels a little too high, but I suppose that happens when literally everyone except Cap is a "comic relief" character).

Posted May 1st by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

My final downer thought, and then I'll leave y'all to be fun nerds again (sorry, I really don't want to keep shitting on anything that people like - I like that people liked it) is this:



I don't think I spoiled anything there. Just figured I'd put it in tags.


I did hear that James Gunn wrote all the dialogue for the Guardians stuff. That's pretty rad, actually.

Posted May 1st by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

(Also, if I come back in here, I will focus on the positives I took from the film, which is a newfound love of Tom Holland, how even though I'm not super into Thanos I might actually argue Josh Brolin has put in the best villainous performance since Heath Ledger, and how much I now love Thor.)

Posted May 1st by Jet Presto
Jet Presto

killmonger> thanos imo. especially when it came to motivations.

I will say this though. This movie made me like Doctor Strange. Thinking back on it he sorta stole the show for me. Which says a lot because I hated his film and I hate the batch of cumber.




Edited May 2nd by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

Re: The Empire Strikes Back:



I'm by no means arguing that Infinity War was a perfect film or anything (I'd put it no higher than 9th, after the 5 I mentioned, Ragnarok, and the two Guardians movies at least), but I've come around to that particular part. I think it was and will continue to be worth it. Although I'm sympathetic to the idea that movies are not necessarily the best medium for telling a continuous story like this, which is why I've always been partial to TV shows. Movies just don't have nearly as much time to breath and develop, particularly when they have these crossover events. But of course, they have a way better budget this way and make way more money, so...

(Also, for what it's worth, I definitely don't mind people voicing their criticisms of shows/movies, particularly if they're well-reasoned ones. After all, I've been on the opposite side of this on many arguments, including basically all of the new Star Wars films!)

Speaking of, I wonder if the ending of this film will have any impact on any of the TV shows? Seems like a rather hard thing to just handwave away. Agents of Shield made a brief mention of "that crazy stuff happening in New York," but theoretically the hammer would still have time to drop...but given that it's fully engaged in its own storyline right now, it's hard to see them incorporating something that huge. Especially given that it won't be resolved in the TV show itself.

I'm also more into Killmonger than I was into Thanos, but both were great. I thought Thanos's minions were intriguing, partially because they were simply so powerful, but we really didn't get too much on them. Liked that they were recognizable recurring generals over the course of the film, but there wasn't too much to them.

Posted May 2nd by white lancer
white lancer
 

Re: Asgard


Re: Dr Strange


Vision


Thanos


Agents of SHIELD


The ending


Although I'm sympathetic to the idea that movies are not necessarily the best medium for telling a continuous story like this, which is why I've always been partial to TV shows. Movies just don't have nearly as much time to breath and develop, particularly when they have these crossover events. But of course, they have a way better budget this way and make way more money, so...


Movies definitely aren't the best medium for continuous stories. I vastly prefer TV shows over movies just because they have way more time to deal with a particular story than a movie does. Even the "shorter" seasons that are only ten episodes... That's still like 450 minutes worth of time to devote to something vs 150ish minutes that your typical long movie can devote.

Speaking of, I wonder if the ending of this film will have any impact on any of the TV shows? Seems like a rather hard thing to just handwave away.


I am personally expecting nothing but dialogue references from the Netflix shows. Those ones live in their own bubble and as I mentioned in this reply I'm really not sure how they can fit something decent into Agents of SHIELD.

Doesn't bother me as it's kinda of impractical to expect fans of any particular part of the MCU to watch everything from them all. Yea some of us do, but I imagine there are significant groups of people that only watch the Netflix stuff or only watch the movies.

I don't think its a spoiler but didnt the ship at the end of ragnorak split in half ? Or am I misremembering?




Posted May 3rd by Moonray
 

Also in terms of required viewing for this movie.

Civil War, Ragnarok are the only ones that I would argue are "requirements" beyond a basic knowledge of what's been happening in the MCU.

Civil War

Ragnarok

Black Panther

Obviously without having seen everything you'll probably wonder who some characters are & why certain things are but I think those two are the only ones that. I'd also argue it's best viewed if you've seen them all, just because it's cool to finally see all these characters in one movie...

OH! Speaking of...



Posted May 3rd by Moonray
 

Apparently the directors have addressed the Asgard situation:



Personally, I prefer Tessa Thompson's explanation of them just being at the bar.

Strange:



On TV shows:



The ending:



Excluded heroes:



I think Guardians is a pretty good film to watch before this film as well, at least the first one. That way, you get an introduction to Gamora and Nebula's arcs in this film as well as some knowledge of a good chunk of the cast. But yeah, not strictly necessary.

Edited May 3rd by white lancer
white lancer
 

Personally, I prefer Tessa Thompson's explanation of them just being at the bar.


Lol!

Asgard


Strange


TV Shows


Ending:


Other stuff:


Posted May 4th by Moonray
 

@Jet: glad I'm not the only one who stopped reading Marvel/DC for the reasons you cite. Moved on to other publishing houses as a result and never really looked back (although the occasional license foray breaks that up).

Although, in addition, for that reason, I haven't watched any MCU since Iron Man 1.

Posted May 4th by Arch
Arch
 

TV shows:



Ending:



Am I crazy for thinking this film may have been funnier than Ragnarok? I mean, it wasn't as focused on humor, but Ragnarok had more jokes that fell flat for me (it relied a bit too much on the "character fails at being badass and dramatic" humor, which was great the first time and became less funny the more it happened).

Posted May 4th by white lancer
white lancer
 

Not much of a real spoiler but the where,who, why joke killed in my screening lol

Posted May 4th by S.o.h.
S.o.h.
 

I saw it at the Alamo Drafthouse, which requires silence, so I didn't hear any big reactions. I saw that the woman sitting on the other side of my friend was having severe issues at the end. I mean, full on leaning all the way forward in her seat with her hands on her mouth.

Edited May 4th by nullfather
nullfather

a dude in my theater yelled "fuck you" at the screen when



Posted May 10th by poptart!
poptart!
 

I found the whole smart-ass, pop-culture spewing alpha male shit to be such a slog


Hey now, what's the point in being some of the most powerful men in the world if you can't act like insecure dipshits to the people around you?





Posted May 10th by nullfather
nullfather

isnt that how theyve always treated him though? They bought up with his shit in the last guardians movie too and gamora called him out on it multiple times because it almost got them killed.

Posted May 10th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 

Yea I didn't really find anything odd about his treatment in this movie. It seemed very in line with what we've had in the Guardians movies to me.

Posted May 10th by Moonray
 

I think I would have enjoyed the movie a little less without the reactions at the theater, tbh. The cheering when certain characters arrived and the gasps when the big events happened added a lot to the experience for me (particularly in that one scene). Although the reactions were a little problematic when something funny happened since I missed a few lines due to laughter.

And yeah, Starlord's treatment seemed mostly in character for me as well. And he still got some moments to shine.



Some more of the biggest laughs from the film in my theater:



Posted May 10th by white lancer
white lancer
 

Has any one seen it a second or third time? Was there something you caught in the second viewing that you missed on the first? (aside from dialogue)

Posted May 10th by S.O.H.
S.O.H.
 
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