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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

"My family is more important than my party." - Zell Miller

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Left freaking out at Trump for calling ms13 gang members who torture and
kill people "animals"

While we’re bashing various media outlets, fuck MSNBC. They are the wooooorst as far as corporate left goes, possibly the worst in general.

48#85
(pacman)
Friday
Left freaking out at Trump for calling ms13 gang members who torture and
kill people "animals"

How then did they get the media, the education system, etc on their side ?

They didn’t. Neoliberal elitists aren’t the left. The global “liberal” elite types you rail against are more similar to Trump than any leftist. In fact, they along with the GOP/neocon establishment have assimilate

48#85
(pacman)
Friday
Left freaking out at Trump for calling ms13 gang members who torture and
kill people "animals"

WaPo isn’t left; like many modern “left” American outlets, it’s almost all corporate/war machine propaganda with some fashionable social views sprinkled in.

48#85
(pacman)
Friday
Left freaking out at Trump for calling ms13 gang members who torture and
kill people "animals"

Trump doesn’t care that MS-13 kills and tortures. He has no problem with killing and torturing, as evidenced by his policies and recent cabinet picks. He must have called them animals for some other reason...

48#85
(pacman)
Thursday
Sensible lefties

At this point I am not so sure capitalism is worth saving. :(

13Smiling Apple
(pacman)
Tuesday
The Iran Nuclear Deal

Oh btw, it is worth noting (but seldom mentioned) that the IAEA has done several investigations (10 iirc) and found every single time that Iran is complying with the nuclear deal. Meanwhile we slapped new sanctions in 2017. Our word meant nothing to begin with.

27Arch
(pacman)
May 10th
The Iran Nuclear Deal

So what now? I do not accept pacman's suggestion that war is necessarily the aim

Maybe not the aim (though I do emphasize the term “maybe”), but certainly a possible consequence, much more possible than the neocon warmongers pushing for all this escalation aeound the world would have you bel

27Arch
(pacman)
May 9th
The Iran Nuclear Deal

Any possible reasoning as to why this is a good idea would be great.

Assuming most of the people against the Iran deal are pro-Trump/pro-GOP, gutting the Iran deal puts us closer to war, and an incumbent president is much more likely to be reelected during wartime.

27Arch
(pacman)
May 9th
What does it mean to be a liberal republican and conservative Democrat?

Nah. I don’t really like the Dem vs. GOP dichotomy to begin with. I just try to support candidates on any side who genuinely have the people's interests in mind rather than the interests of lobbyists, Super PACs and corporations who fund their campaigns. Sincerity and not being disproportionately

12Weid man
(pacman)
April 29th
What does it mean to be a liberal republican and conservative Democrat?

I despise the Democratic party.

12Weid man
(pacman)
April 28th
What does it mean to be a liberal republican and conservative Democrat?

Democrats and Republicans are both mostly corporatists. There are very few principled conservatives or (especially) liberals left in the US government.

12Weid man
(pacman)
April 28th
The Korean war just ended.

Oh and you really need to make up your mind - are the “left” a bunch of sociopathic warmongers, or a bunch of cucks who give out free money? You can’t have it both ways.

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 28th
The Korean war just ended.

"H-heres some money plz don't hurt us"

How the left makes deals.

Quit repeating the same old Fox News/neocon lie about frozen assets.

Also, Obama was somewhat reluctant about the Iran deal and Hillary fought it tooth and nail the entire way through. Hillary didn’t take credit for it un

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 28th
The Korean war just ended.

Hang in there, buddy.

Don’t worry, I changed “dipshit” to a sarcastic “genius”. My post still effectively says the exact same thing, but at least now it’s “keeping it civil” as you like to say. :)

Btw didn’t you recently tell 85 to fuck off with his bullshit? Lol. Seems like

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frozen_assets
For starters.

Btw I love the standard you’ve set up where every one of my sentences has to have a citation whereas you get to rattle off whatever insane bullshit and lies come to mind and expect to be taken seriously.

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

Great discussion.

More like me talking to a fact free brick wall with increasing frustration lol

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

Proof?

It was IN THE IRAN DEAL. Explicitly stated, or at least as explicit as legal jargon can be.

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

85, you have demonstrated your ignorance and confusion about the Iran deal multiple times now, even repeating a MSM lie about “free money”. Why should anyone take your opinion on the deal seriously?

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

Ok, that’s your opinion. Just don’t make up lies to suit your agenda.

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th
The Korean war just ended.

It literally WAS their money, genius. See, when we did sanctions on Iran, we immediately froze THEIR OWN ASSETS that were in the middle of being transferred. So essentially the Iran deal made it so we had to give back the money we FUCKING STOLE from them. We can argue about whether it was a good mov

35S.o.h.
(pacman)
April 27th

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