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09/11/2001 WE REMEMBER
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"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams

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The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

Why would people in the UK say that? Their population demographs are something like 95 percent white lol.

Probably more likely to target perceived slights against Muslims then any white/black racial narrative that occurs across the pond.

But hey ho, there's a permissive attitude to thought p

19Xhin
(Arch)
23 Minutes ago
Reasonable Libertarian swarmed by antifa mob

Just because you aren't informed about it, doesn't mean its a conspiracy theory. Hahaha wow total fucking idiot.

You call me an idiot but then link me to that garbage? Lol, ok kid. You shouldn't have dropped out.

22#85
(Chain Chomp)
37 Minutes ago
Reasonable Libertarian swarmed by antifa mob

85,

I don't personally associate with black nationalists. Largely the rhetoric they speak is divisive in nature. Many of them are anti America, as well. I see plenty of problems with how this country conducts its business but I do still identify as American and I have a vested interest in what h

22#85
(Blazer72)
1 Hour ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>They should be prosecuted.. for what exactly? Making people do things?

Convincing people to do illegal things? Yes. You're like that kid in class who thinks he did nothing wrong when he convinced the slow kid to grab the teacher's ass. Was it the slow kid that grabbed the teacher's ass? Yes. Wo

19Xhin
(nullfather)
1 Hour ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

Ever hear of gas lighting Xhin?

19Xhin
(I killed Mufasa)
1 Hour ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

Yes, which is why scum that are aware that people can be manipulated and do so in a intentional and malicious manner should be prosecuted.

They should be prosecuted.. for what exactly? Making people do things? Those people aren't puppets on strings.

19Xhin
(Xhin)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>Because we have this thing called a civilzation with these things called laws, where people are responsible for their own actions and the laws they break

Yes, which is why scum that are aware that people can be manipulated and do so in a intentional and malicious manner should be prosecuted.

19Xhin
(nullfather)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

And what people do is influenced by what the people around them and opposing them say and do.

Literally what is hard about understanding this?

Because we have this thing called a civilzation with these things called laws, where people are responsible for their own actions and the laws they b

19Xhin
(Xhin)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>Things like facebook and more and more people merging their online/real selves has made old rules like that fall by the wayside, but they were very valid at the time and made a lot of sense.

So? Remove the cause, not the effect.

>Okay yeah that's a good point -- though you don't necessarily

19Xhin
(nullfather)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>Also I don't buy the idea that people are like genetically predisposed to become violent radicals on the basis of hearing some opinion

That's not even close to what I said.

>The real issue isn't what people say, it's what people do

And what people do is influenced by what the people around

19Xhin
(nullfather)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

It shouldn't have to be a "good idea" to hide one's identity on the internet.

When I first used the internet this was exactly the thing that was taught and pretty solidly enforced. Things like facebook and more and more people merging their online/real selves has made old rules like that fall b

19Xhin
(Xhin)
2 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>None of those have ties to someone's online identity unless they explicitly make a link to them. Or they use their real identity as their online identity.

It shouldn't have to be a "good idea" to hide one's identity on the internet.

>Website registry data is the only one that sounds accurate

19Xhin
(nullfather)
2 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

The reason we have laws against hate speech is because hate speech has a radicalizing effect on the people that do pay attention to it, regardless of if the person or people it was addressed to even knows it exists.

We don't have laws against hate speech, some places (like universities) totally

19Xhin
(Xhin)
2 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

Job search profiles, dating profiles, even a private selfie that someone might take in front of their house

None of those have ties to someone's online identity unless they explicitly make a link to them. Or they use their real identity as their online identity.

Website registry data is the o

19Xhin
(Xhin)
2 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

>Yeah but you literally can ignore stuff that happens online.

That's not the point. The reason we have laws against hate speech is because hate speech has a radicalizing effect on the people that do pay attention to it, regardless of if the person or people it was addressed to even knows it exist

19Xhin
(nullfather)
2 Hours ago
It was a decade ago this day that I learned that sennatle Larry Craig said that he had a wide stannce at the Minneapolis air port bathroom stall via Sean hannity radio show.

Classic weid man!

1Wide stance man
(Xhin)
3 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

There's public outing of individual's private information that tends to see no consequence.

How do they get the information though? If you don't ever make your private information accessible then there can't be a public outing of it.

19Xhin
(Xhin)
3 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

There is some terrible behavior that occurs online that can't just be excused as, "it's online; just ignore it."

Yeah but you literally can ignore stuff that happens online. In IRL you can be like physically assaulted, or people can stand just out of reach and harass you or they're part of your

19Xhin
(Xhin)
3 and a half Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

That said, I would want to get more specific details about what exactly are the type of things that would see a legal consequence. I might support cracking down on online harassment and abuse, but it is a tricky line to play. The NRA guy that responds to me calling me a limp-dick libtard is d

19Xhin
(Jet Presto)
3 Hours ago
The UK now prosecutes for thought crime

I'm not a big fan of "harsh punishment" in general, for most "real life" crimes that people get punished for, so I cringe hearing about prosecuting online harassment "as tough as things committed face to face." That said, there is some ugly stuff that happens online that people pass off as somehow b

19Xhin
(Jet Presto)
3 Hours ago

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